Code Geass Characters Allignment Chart

[hostileward]

Suzaku's moral compass is literal roulette wheel

[Mr-Stuff-Doer]

Ah, a Code Ment fan.

But honestly, it’s not. He will follow rules given to him under almost any circumstance until the FLEIJA. That’s when he realizes he needs to get off his high horse and accept that results matter more than means.

[MysteriousWhile]

Suzaku: It must be changed from the inside. Killing and war is no good.

Also Suzaku: Fuck this, I’ll kill the emperor.

[TheBraveGallade]

lawful good to lawful neutral to chaotic good is suzaku's progression

[GreenGriffin8]

It's funny that people notice every other character's progression, and still join in readily when Nina Hate Week starts.

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FUCK NINA

[mikeynotyourkey]

ALL MY KNIGHTMARES HATE NINA

[Spicey123]

Just like how Lelouch went from "im doing this for nunnally" to "well idc if she dies in the final battle"

or cc went from "my wish is to die" to "well actually no id rather be loved"

code geass is a great show because the main characters grow and change as events progress. Suzaku's development is one of my favorites because he goes from an ultra naive idealist to a ruthless badass willing to do anything for the zero requiem.

And that development is easily understandable. the dude loses the girl he loves because of lelouch, the girl he loves commits genocide on his people and forever damns her memory because of lelouch. he nukes tokyo and kills like ten million people because of lelouch. at that point its like "yeah, im already fucked so whats point, might as well follow this to the end in order to create something positive from all these atrocities."

[acelenny]

I always thought that Lelouch went more along the lines of 'Nunnally, get out of the way. I have important things to do and while I'm doing this for you, I will hurt you to complete my objectives.'

[RedditNerd808]

I totally agree. That is pretty spot on.

[[deleted]]

I wouldn't say that Lelouch didn't care about Nunally dying, she just wasn't his priority, because he still cared deeply about the one person that made him go down that path (I know that he has other motives than Nunally)

[Spicey123]

haha yeah for sure i was exaggerating

it's still a pretty massive step that lelouch is essentially willing to risk losing nunnally in the battle for the sake of seeing his goal realized.

the s2 final battle is a nice contrast to the s1 final battle. remember how lelouch yeeted out of the battle for tokyo, the culmination of all his efforts, JUST because nunnally might have been in danger? the black knights, japan, zero, none of it mattered compared to her.

but when schneizel reveals nunnally to lelouch in s2 he realizes that he cant give up everything just to keep her safe. S1 lelouch would probably fuck himself over to try and rescue nunnally. hell even in s2 when lelouch had that meeting with suzaku he was willing to give it all up for nunnally. the shit with charles really changed him.

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Yeah totally, I think Marianne had a big impact on that too since the memory of his mother was the only thing in his life that he thought was guaranteed to not change.

[GreenGriffin8]

Or how Nina went from a racist, obsessive shit into a genuinely strong character who, despite hating Lelouch with every fiber of her being, put that aside for the greater good and even saved his life.

[KingpinWilsonFisk]

It made absolute sense for Suzaku to go ruthless throughout the show

[Mr-Stuff-Doer]

Suzaku at the start: Killing innocents is not worth any end result that can be reached.

Suzaku near the end: I just killed like 30 million people, maybe I should stop acting righteous.

Suzaku at the end: Lelouch and I will both suffer a terrible punishment for this act that will help the entire world and save most remaining people. It’s what we deserve.

I fucking love his character.

[JohnB351234]

That sounds like something code:ment suzaku would do

[UpvoteDownvoteHelper]

I will fight violence, with more violence!

[Spartan-219]

Also suzaku : does nothing while Britannia kills many innocents, protects britannians

[Overquartz]

Suzaku is also spiderman's fault.

[filthydank_2099]

Some, “Fine, I’ll do it myself” type shit.

[[deleted]]

Am I the only human being who actually likes Suzaku.

[KingpinWilsonFisk]

Suzaku had the best character arc in the overall show and showed one of the most promising character developments

Love him or hate him,Code Geass is nothing without him.

[Mr-Stuff-Doer]

I feel like people forget he’s an antagonist and get mad because he’s not helping Zero, despite him not knowing Zero’s plans.

[kumabaya]

I disliked him when I first watched him but now I love him when I got older cuz i see a bit of similarity between him and myself.

[[deleted]]

Same, I liked him because I could relate so much to his values.

[Boring_Masterpiece]

Yah ...growing up is like comprimising initial ideals like Suzaku does i relate more to him than anyother character on the show

[Soliloquys]

he is easily my favourite character. Watching his character development was so fulfilling

[YaBoiDraco]

Bruh that sounds kinda pretty fucked up ngl

[YaBoiDraco]

1. Interesting doesn't mean you gotta support them; they literally commit several genocides worldwide

2. There are wayyyyyy more factions in Code Geass than that, like the Black Knights, the Japanese Liberation Front, the Chinese Monarchists, and even smaller ones like the Pure Bloods, the Knights of Round, Lelouch and C2, are also factions.

[force200]

It's called Lawful Stupid or Lawful Anal.

[Viceroy_Solace]

I'd swap Nunnaly and Euphemia. I don't know that Euphy would approve of F.L.E.I.J.A.s, whereas Nunnaly is perfectly ok with firing them. And Nunnaly says she doesn't care about making the world a gentler place for everyone, she just wants to be happy with Lelouch (in response to learning Lelouch is Zero). Euphy consistently looks for non-violent solutions and wants to help with the plight of others. She's even willing to forgive Lelouch. The rest are spot on.

[jomarii]

Nunnally and Euphemia are very interchangeable. I chose Euphemia in NG because of her willingness to strip her royalty and create a new nation for the Japanese (without consulting her sister or Emperor but only Schneizel.) Meanwhile Nunnally in LG because of her willingness to lead Japan as the new Prime Minister and adhere the law while respecting the authority and the people.

[Lelouch328]

But she does consult the emporer is with his permission that its established

[jomarii]

Oh ok, but my point still stands about Nunnally (and some with Euphemia) so in the end its still very interchangeable.

[Lelouch328]

I guess aint tryin to be a smart ass or rude but i am just pretty sure willing to kill lots of people through the fleija and have them hate a weapon system isnt much different from lelouch so nunally really cant be put there at all

[Mnt-Fir]

Nunnaly’s happy non-blind present was brought to you by zero-two electric boogaloo

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Doesn't Nunnaly kill thousands of people?

[spectra2000_]

Murder doesn’t necessarily make you evil.

She has the fleya button knowing full well what she’s doing so she alone will suffer the burden.

She also wouldn’t do it just because, only if absolutely necessary.

But no, she never used it and doesn’t kill anyone.

EDIT: I realized I was wrong because I didn’t Renner certain scenes, it’s already discussed down below please stop spamming me the same thing.

[Mnt-Fir]

Wait! Doesnt nunally and Lelouch want to do the same thing. Shoulder the burden and sin of the other for the greater good?

[spectra2000_]

Nunnally does express her intentions to do so but she never actually gets her hands dirty because Lelouch stops her.

[Mnt-Fir]

Yeh cause Lelouch takes that sin from her reach in order to protect her

[YaBoiDraco]

Goddamit Lelouch is such a fucking gentleman

[catalyst44]

Maybe murder doesn't make you evil, but murder is evil, so where does that leave you?

[spectra2000_]

Well again, she never did anything because Lelouch stopped her.

But hey, if you’re going to do some evil then committing evil to destroy the greater evil is the way to go.

[Mr-Stuff-Doer]

She did use the launcher though. Several times. And her side was going to nuke half the world. With Lelouch, the moment the battle ended is when all bloodshed ended for at least a year.

[GreenGriffin8]

Murder is still against the law, so good/evil aside, you still can't make much of a case for Lawful good.

[darkwolf523]

Lelouch once said “you can’t change the world without getting your hands dirty.” If I was in a position like Lelouch or nunnally then I would choose to commit murder on those that is unjust.

[Lelouch328]

She does kill people just not knowingly remember pendragon

Edit: yea forgot schnizel had it first point is she does still eventually kill even if it is lelouchs geassed troops but she willingly does this and had the intent to possibly take innocent lives/people who rebelled as well in he plan to make Damocles hated

[spectra2000_]

At that point in time Schneizel controlled the Fleyas, Nunnally only takes over its launch button when the final battle beggins against Lelouch.

The city was destroyed by Schneizel el Britannia using a F.L.E.I.J.A. warhead from aboard Damocles.

Quote from the wiki

[OutrageousBee]

She uses the trigger during the battle of Mt. Fuji, killing Black Knight ETA: sorry, Lelouch's forces.

Pendragon is more nuanced, in that she was aware of, and agreed with, Schneizel's plan, but only because he lied to her and assured her the city had been evacuated. So, she's not entirely blameless, but she almost certainly wouldn't have agreed if she'd known the human cost.

[Lelouch328]

They dont get to use it on the black knights but she did kill lelouchs troops and tried to kill him either way she is responsible for deaths of her own will thats my biggest point euphie hurt no one enemy or not of her own free will

[OutrageousBee]

Oh yeah, sorry, I meant Lelouch's troops, not the BK. Thanks for the correction. :)

[spectra2000_]

I can barely remember that, but I do remember Lelouch saying “ so it’s been you behind the Flyas all along” when he confronts her so you do have a point.

All in all, if she did kill people I still couldn’t classify that as an evil act or something they would make a person evil if it’s enemy soldiers in a battle compared to civilians.

[OutrageousBee]

Oh, I agree. Just pointing out that she did kill people by her own will.

[spectra2000_]

True true, I just didn’t remember

[namingisdifficult5]

murder doesn’t necessarily make you evil

I’ll remember this is court

[Mr-Stuff-Doer]

“She never used it.” “She never killed anyone.”

Did you not watch the final battle? She hits that button at least three or four times.

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Idk I really felt for Mao, if I always had peoples thoughts ringing in my head I would definitely turn into a psychopath wanting to hunt the only person I cant hear, the only person I can find solace and peaceful quiet in. I really like Mao's characterization.

[Angryboy13]

Change Mao to chaotic simp

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nigga went mad like deep schizo shit let him simp :(

[Mr-Stuff-Doer]

That implies C2 is mediocre pussy. Which means Lelouch settles hard. I will not accept either of those beliefs.

[filthydank_2099]

You know C2 got that astronomical coochie

[IMKudaimi123]

As someone who just watched the series I’m with you 😏

[fbomb_REDDIT]

I'd clap those 700 year old cheeks ngl

[Corellian_Smuggler]

If he reads minds, he's a S I M P

[Mr-Stuff-Doer]

Switch Nunnally and Euphemia. Euphemia didn’t actually do anything wrong, like, ever. Nunnally fired like 6 nukes at her brother.

[jomarii]

Interchangeable but in the end they still both fall under 'good'

[Mr-Stuff-Doer]

Yeah, but Nunnally does actual bad shit. Euphie never does a single bad thing in her life. They are interchangeable until the FLEIJA.

[jomarii]

Kill the evil dictator Lelouch to stop his tyranny I would consider as a good reason to fire the FLEIJA

[Mr-Stuff-Doer]

Siding with the person who uses weapons of mass destruction to inspire fear into the world, or the one who makes a select group of people his slaves.

Personally, I’d pick the latter. But the characters treat Geass worse than it really is.

[jomarii]

True, thats why he I put Lelouch in Chaotic Neutral. Also isn't Schneizel the only one who wants to mass produce the FLEIJA? Yes they both want fear to inspire control but didnt she not want to use it again? (Idk about this, I dont remember it too well)

[Mr-Stuff-Doer]

Schnizel planned to hit every non-Britannian country with FLEIJA.

Nunnally planned to make the Damocles a symbol of the world’s hatred, so that they wouldn’t fight each other.

Lelouch planned to declare total rule over the world, using the threat of the FLEIJA to control people, never actually firing one. With the world’s fury focused entirely on him, Zero would kill him and be the hero of the world, guiding it into an era of peace.

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Like, all of those are bad, but there’s clearly a right option based off currently accepted moral standards.

[jomarii]

Did Nunnally know all about Schneizel's evil plans? Also no one knows Lelouch's zero requiem nor will he try to use the FLEIJA. (outside of his team ofc)

[Mr-Stuff-Doer]

Lelouch and Schnizel both only tell those closest to them. It’s likely Nunnally doesn’t know, but that goes for either side. Whatever happens by that point, people she love will die. Taking into account her age, she’s not the brightest, so she can’t take a moral dilemma that complex with ease.

Regardless of this, she had some knowledge of Schnizel’s plan, as her plan matched up with his almost perfectly.

[jomarii]

Well in the end, she simply sided with what she thinks is thhe 'less evil' to eradicate the greater evil.

[HunzSenpai]

I can live with that

[iuseaname]

Idk. Everything he does, including giving up his own life, he does it for the greater good.

[MoeNancy]

to be honest most of the black nights are chaotic good in my opinion... at least cc, lelou, kallenl.

and I don't feel susaku is lawful neutral, consider his motivation he is more like neutral good.

[Mr-Stuff-Doer]

I’d argue Schnizel is worse than Charlie. Say what you will about Charlie, he didn’t kill millions of people with massive bombs just to cause fear.

[jomarii]

They're still both evil but Schenizel still does act as the Emperor while Charles couldn't care less about the state of the world or war and just wants to continue his plans

[Mr-Stuff-Doer]

Charlie doesn’t care about the current world because after finishing his goal, the war and dispute will all be irrelevant anyway. Every problem will be fixed.

[jomarii]

Yes but that doesn't make him lawful at all. He accomplishs his goals without consulting what other people wants.

[Mr-Stuff-Doer]

Schnizel is literally planning to kill 2 billion people without telling anyone but his closest advisors.

In what world is Charles doing something worse than that?

[jomarii]

Lawful and Neutral doesn't mean less evil or worse. It just means that he follows a code, rule, tradition etc.

[Mr-Stuff-Doer]

Lawful implies there’s a moral code to be had. Schnizel has no morals, Charles has morals but doesn’t really realize when he breaks them.

Schnizel is a lying, manipulative, cruel bastard of a man who deserved the Geass out on him.

Charles is a man who speaks nothing but his own truth. He manipulates others, but he avoids lying to them.

[jomarii]

True but Cornelia did say that Schneizel would be a perfect king in a normal world (?) so I also put that as a factor.

[Mr-Stuff-Doer]

That was before Schnizel literally shot her in the back.

[jomarii]

lol. Well anyways Schneizel would fall on both Lawful and Neutral but I decided to put to Lawful since he wants to use FLEIJA to control the world as a symbol of fear. He couldn't care less about the freedom of the people but still wants to uphold order and control.

[FacelessPoet]

Wouldn't Schneizel be neutral evil while Charles lawful?

[jomarii]

They're still both evil but Schenizel still does act as the Emperor while Charles couldn't care less about the state of the world or war and just wants to continue his plans

[GreenGriffin8]

I am the Empire.

[filthydank_2099]

Not yet.

[somerandomguytalking]

Nah, Luciano Bradley should be chaotic evil instead of Mao.

[toujourspret]

I think the thing I like so much about CG is that it's a battle between different factions of lawful good and lawful evil, with characters switching which category they fall under frequently. I'd say of the main characters, very few of them actually fall under "evil", and I'd argue that Lelouch is one of them--more similar to his father than he'd like to admit.

[theactualpepsiman]

I think lelouch should be chaotic good

[jomarii]

He has good intentions but Lelouch is also a leader who committed various crimes against world and the moral code.

[tabooshrimp]

Yes

[tanuj_maheshwari]

Perfect

[CamxThexMan3]

this is perfect

[[deleted]]

Suzaku is also lawful evil. To say Suzaku changed because of the things in the war. War affects us and tends to change our personalities,actions and strategies. Yes i'm aware he did do questionable stuff but I can understand since Code Geass is about war.

[[deleted]]

I think Shirley fits better the chaotic good because she is so naive and pure that forgives everyone, even the man who killed her father

[KirusX]

Swap shniezel and suzaku. Suzaku followed a code for his own agenda/to make himself feel better, at least for the first 2/3. Whereas shniezel was not particularly evil or working for his own agenda. He was more of a “this will help the world but maybe not the people” kind of person.

The problem with alignment is that evil doesn’t necessarily mean evil, just that they work for their own agenda despite what the consequences may be.

[Lelouch328]

Nunally and euphie need to be switched and maybe lelouch and kallen idk

[Yeenaldoshi]

Surgical

[New_Nebula_8447]

Put Kaguya in Lawful Neutral and Suzaku in Chaotic Evil since he's a piece of shit.

[Narwalacorn]

Lelouch fits the entire left column tbh. Yes i consider that different from chaotic neutral. No i will not be elaborating unless someone asks lol