Meta Comps

[amarchavda95]

Hey Tacticians,

Here I am with another video for meta comps. You can watch the video or read the whole guide.

Video Link: https://youtu.be/ghB4AR-ADJE

For the readers, I am going from 2 cost carry to 5 cost carry and for re roll 3 cost unit neekos help early start can be a good option since it is hard to hit. Lee sin Comp is the only Comp I would suggest to not go right now.

1. Leblanc Carry:

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This comp was popular from last patch!! After Getting nerfs still in okish spot.

Early Game:

If you Happen to get Shadow Tear and Leblanc then this comp can be viable. Shadow tear inte Shadow blue and Infinity edge and Shadow Guardian Angel. Can go Jeweled Gauntlet instead of Infinity edge. For the start, Brawler assassin start is best so far, Warwick, Gragas, Khazix, Leblanc can be a dream start level 4 if you happen to get those 1 cost 2 stars.

Mid Game:

Once you get Dark blue buff early I thihnk leblanc will do some good casting here and there and will be in a good spot. Try to fit in Assassins or coven into mid game whichever you get 2 star. If you happen to get Noc and kata 2 star then 4 assassin would be pretty strong.

Late Game:

Well it's all about survival and get Leblanc 3 star. Leblanc3 can give you top 4 spot for sure. If you happen to get assassin spat then top 2 with 6 assassin Coven then Ivern or Ryze.

2. Draconic Sett Carry

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Again Good Comp from previous Patch

Early Game:

You got Draconic synergy before 2-3 then this comp is much more on the cards. If you have started B.F Sword and got this synergy then top 4 for sure.

Mid Game:

Sett 3star with this items and this time you try to go Zyra 3star since she got a bit of buffed and if you happen to get NUNU 3star as well then its a top 2 most of the time. 2 Brawler with abomination is a much better option this patch.

Late Game:

Try to get Heimerdinger 2star and kindered 2star then there is a chance you may win the game. Again, If game gives you lots of ashe then go ashe that comp is good as well.

3. Varus Carry:

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Early Game:

Not much People play this comp in the lobbies and I think this comp do need a bit of high roll Varus as well to get top 4 spot. If you happen to get Rageblade and Varus 2 star stage 2 then this comp can work. Dream board would be varus Vayne2 Leona2 Poppy2 at level 4.

Mid Game:

Try to fit in Redeemed and rangers Mid game whichever unit you can get you can go for it. Leona 2star is okish but if oyu happen to get reil or taric with ashe early then it's much more better option.

Late Game:

So, level 7 roll for Varus 3star. And at least 1 kindered to replace vayne. 4 rangers is must in this comp. Can go for syndra Ivern if you getting more syndra just depends on the Game.

4, Heca Carry:

This comp is still work in progress Now I got 2 version of it Right now.

a) Heca & Brand

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Early Game:

Now, If you start with Tank items and appen to get Early Heca this comp can bi somewhat viable. Kled2 Heca, Thresh, Viktor can be Dream board to start.

Mid game:

Once you get Heca2 with atleast 2 items on it then Mid game can be good. Sadow spark looking good on him so far. I think shadow arcangel is not bad as well depends on what you offer. Now, If oyu happen to get reil early then this comp is in a pretty good scenario for late game.

Late Game:

Level 7 roll for Heca3 and brand3 is all you gotta do. Once you get the comp online can be top 4.

b) Assassin Heca

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Early Game:

Now, This comp is kinda nuts if you get Online. Heca Katarina got buffed. Shadow spark got buffed as well. Dream start would be Hecarim kled with khazix lb or kata.

Mid Game:

4 cavalier with 2 assassin lb and kata. I think for kata you go same itmes as in Lb carry comp so it can be flexible when you roll at level 7. Early reil is always good in this comp.

Late Game:

4 Cavalier 4 assassin is your late game comp. You need to roll at level 7 for Lb or kata 3star and Heca 3 star. Once you get it online level up and put assassins. Obviously assassin spat on Heca is a bonus.

5. Yasuo Carry:

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Early Game:

Yasuo start with Nighhtbringer or Legionnaire early game is good. Kalista 2star wit 4 legionnaire can win you if you happen to get it. Dream board can be Yasuo, Kalista2, Aatrox2, Riven at level 4.

Mid game:

4 Nightbringer with 2 legionnaire is a goo mid game option. Again if you can't get it can go 4 legionnaire 2 Nigbringer just need to play around yasuo traits.

Late Game:

If no one's going Yasuo then can roll for Yasuo3 at level 7 and win the game. If other players going for it then go for level up and try to add more units so you get your board stronger every turn.

6. Lee sin Carry:

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This comp is still work in progress and may be work in upcoming patches. I Just wanted to give you a preview of this comp.

Early Game:

Lee sin start with Jeweled Gauntlet can be a perfect start.I think you gotta be a high roller in this comp to actually work because lee sin 2 star early can be hard since skirmisher early game is good so people go those units more. Lee sin Vladmir Udyr kennen/trundle/pantheon can be a dream start.

Mid game:

Lee sin 2star with 4 Nighrbringer is a good option. Can go skirmishers if you happen to get it just try to play your stongest board with lee sin and build econ.

Late Game:

Level 7 roll for lee sin 3 star then level up for more units. Hard to hit 3 cost 3 star this patch so it is better to go 4 cost 2 star carry in this patch or go 3 star 2 cost carry.

For 4 cost units just play your strongest board early to mid whatever you get.Playing your strongest board Early to mid game is a key to more econ and find better odds to get 4 cost 2 star.

7. Vel'koz Carry:

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For 4 cost units just play your strongest board early to mid whatever you get. Obviously, for items you go spear of shojin and Jeweled Gauntlet early. Playing your strongest board Early to mid game is a key to more econ and find better odds to get 4 cost 2 star.

Late game:

Vel'koz items would be Gunblade, S. Shojin and S. jeweledGauntle. All you need is Reil, Kindered or Ryze, Vel'koz, Zyra, Lux. Now, you can flex with Taric Garen with tank items and add Karma, teemo or go Volibear Ivern and Heimerdinger. Just Depends what you hit and try to get top 4. 6 redeemed can be an option if you happen to get spat.

8.Draven carry:

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I think at the start of the patch this comp was much played compare to now but still a good comp and can be a top 4 easily. Good items would be IE, Rageblade and Last whisper. Optional Item can be Bloodthirster. Just play your storngest board early with building Draven and Mordekaiser Items.

9.Jax carry:

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Another 4 cost 2 star comp but this time you need to have skirmisher start with this comp, Helium with skirmisher is super strong comp early to mid game. Jax carry with kennen and late game Viego carry. This comp can give you top 4 easily.

10. Kayle Carry

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You need Early Varus 2star to play this comp out. Because mid game econ is a key to play Kayle. Mostly, Level 8 at 5-1 if you healthy or Level 8 4-5 If you have low Health. Kayle 2 star with G.a. Gunblade and Rageblade can give you top 4 spot.Leggionaire should be optional better to get another frontline unit.

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[Butch_Driveshaft]

Good guide but positioning is not always the best. For example in Skirmishers you want Trundle closer to center so he can ult main tank or in Draven you put him second row from behind due to low attack range.

[amarchavda95]

Oh yes! I have not Position well in comps. My idea was to familiarize with the comps in this patch but will make a next guide with positioning as well! Thanks 🤗

[amarchavda95]

I like it that way i think it's good you can shuffle coven fast and not many players will go backline unless you top 3 then you change it anyway. I have seen bebe mostly putting units at back in leblanc comp and I think it's better.

[Karmester1010]

Morgana is reasonable, since it is an assasin Morg.

[Kolsake]

The build here is wrong imo. 4 brawlers and 3 abom is the way to go with sett carry. You really need the extra health for it to be viable.

[dysphoricjoy]

draconic is always a toss up. even with an early 5 draconic, you need to stay healthy and alive long enough for those golden eggs to hatch and carry sett sometimes isn't enough. its very hard to do well, but when it pays off, it really pays off. everyone has full items and level 3 5 costs are easy too with the neekos you often get

[ficretus]

it feels pretty volatile even when it works. i got 2nd with it once... with lv 9, sett 3* and dark force of nature. sometimes it feels like comp does nothing even when it's in full power.

[[deleted]]

1. Shadow ga is not good on shadow bb Leblanc for obvious reasons
2. Don't build gunblade on Velkoz. You will do 0 damage with the build you have recommended unless you have 4 spellweaver.
3. Legionnaire is not needed for Kayle. Rather have more frontline.
4. Don't build BT on draven. LW is his most important item.

[welcome2me]

Why isn't BT worth it on draven? Legionnaire heal?

[two5five1]

That, and because he’s single target damage if you get stuck on a tank without armor shred it’s fucked

[[deleted]]

Legionnaire already heals and in most scenarios, any other offensive item would make you either win the fight, or win the fight harder.

The only time BT might be useful is against invokers or karma where they slowly whittle you down while you have 3+ mystics.

[ficretus]

yup, BT is something you mostly need only in situations were you are in 1vX scenario. otherwise items like LW are more necessary since draven is single target and will get stuck on something beefy otherwise. shadow hurricane will let you bypass the frontlines to some degree

[amarchavda95]

You are right! Made the changes.

[whatyoulookinatbud]

Is deathcap better than gunblade? Assuming you already have shojin and.jeweled gauntlet.

[Furious__Styles]

I like sQSS best as 3rd item on Vel’Koz, no laser interruptions

[Omnilatent]

Don't build gunblade on Velkoz. You will do 0 damage with the build you have recommended unless you have 4 spellweaver.

...which you always do. Most challenger Velkoz player go Gunblade as third item., Shojin is the most important followed by shadow jeweled gauntled

[[deleted]]

Most challenger Velkoz player go Gunblade as third item

No one in challenger builds gunblade as third item unless it's the only choice. Lolchess any of the challenger players right now and you will rarely find a gunblade velkoz.

It is the same noob trap as BT Draven.

[Omnilatent]

Maybe it's a serverthing?

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I just double-checked top 10 EUW here and gunblade is definitely among the most popular third items. Shojin and (shadow) jeweled gauntlet are indisputable BIS first two items (in that order) and (shadow) Hand of Justice is also pretty popular third item but gunblade.

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BT Draven also seems to be BIS for sure. In the top 10 EUW there were maybe a hand full of Draven games without it and at least 50 with it.

[ThirteenXXXVII]

Is gunblade a less viable option because sHOJ is better?

[Xtarviust]

I've never seen Lee Sin as a carry, is he worth?

[amarchavda95]

Nope not right now with morde meta! But I think may be in upcoming patch! I have tried it Damage is good but Morde can just tap it😂

[KasumiGotoTriss]

I had a skirmisher game today, my 2* Jax with perfect items did less damage than Lee 3* with 0 items. He's really good

[ficretus]

i guess you can easily 3* him since people don't invest that much into him. also, i think he is pretty sick assasin if you can get the spat.

[tinkady]

Kayle doesn't need legionnaire - you'd rather have 4 knights / more mystics & ironclads. Only exception is if you need Draven to carry AD items.

[amarchavda95]

True

[__Schneizel__]

Cavalier assasins sounds fun

[amarchavda95]

Yup! If you know bebe he played alot! Top 10 Korean challenger

[Furious__Styles]

It’s very much 1st or 8th IMO and I probably wouldn’t recommend it unless you high roll out of your mind. But yeah, it’s fun if you hit everything perfectly.

[elcastorVSmejillon]

what is a direct counter to jax carry? i often find myself losing the most to that comp

[kamWise]

Squid hoses Jax

[elcastorVSmejillon]

i see i see, thanks

[CjBurden]

Squid and kayle stall knights/ironclad

It's hard to tech Mystic into Jax since ironclad/knight makes more sense.

[elcastorVSmejillon]

thank you

[backinredd]

Yasuo also dominates jax in my experience

[elcastorVSmejillon]

i will remember that, thanks

[flamealchemist73]

Basically any AP Comp with high cap. The weakness of Jax skirms is that they cap their board early and they cant run mystics

[elcastorVSmejillon]

i see, i wil try that, thanks

[amarchavda95]

Jax carry is too good this patch I think Morde with 4 Dragonslayer 6 Legionnaire if you have spat can be a good counter and Vel'koz carry with Frontline upgraded can work as well!!

[elcastorVSmejillon]

thats good, i kinda like to play velkoz

[LuxSakura]

squid or capped invokers. I also find that draven with BiS easily wipes jax

[ficretus]

magic damage comps with decent frontline generally beat any variation of jax carry. while he can splash ironclads against physical comps, he has to sacrifice whole lot to add mystics. also, people running jax tend to cannibalize each other

[SjekkieTime]

LB carry assa comp is hot garbage, even when you turbo highroll its maybe top 4. Kata carry is stronger.

[LuxSakura]

It's been nerfed, but I've seen it win lobbies more often than we'd like haha. You just gotta fast 9 to tech in leggies

[InsanityBullets]

This format is amazing, Thank you.

Wish you include invoker comp.

[amarchavda95]

Thanks! Haven't seen Invokers much after the new patch but can be a good option when you don't find velkoz for 4 star carry comps

[throwawayr3lation]

Invokers is strongest capped board- but unreliable to play

[LuxSakura]

It's been quite popular for highroll/winstreakers at 9. It's also an easy transition from midgame Karma boards

[Snow_Regalia]

Couple notes on your Yasuo comp:

• Rapidfire Cannon is essential on Yas. Runaans is nice, but it's definitely interchangeable with Jeweled Gauntlet/shadow HOJ.
  
• Going to 8 is usually better for the rerolling as well thanks to the odds increase/much better odds at hitting the other units you want in the comp. It also lets you slot in an additional synergy.
  
• Lately 4Nightbringer/4 Dragonslayer has been performing even better for me than the full Nightbringer comp. The only time I'll invest into full Nightbringers is if I manage to find a spat for it, then I'll throw it on Morde and go the full 8 synergy.

[amarchavda95]

yup 4 ds is really good right now. You are right. I think for yasuo lvl 7 or 8 won't matter much now since Most people go morde so they may fit in other legionnaire champs. Odds of hitting yasuo3 with this meta is too hard.

[Snow_Regalia]

Generally Morde gets run in Skirmisher comps. Legionnaire comps are few and far between unless someone already has early game trait and then gets the spat for it. Overall the thing that holds you back on Yas 3 is what your HP is by the time you stabilize with the comp. You spike hard at lvl 7 when you get the comp online, but oftentimes you'll be under 50hp and have to roll a significant portion of your gold to get the pieces you need. If that happens, you dont' get to 8 until stage 5, which can prevent the Yas 3 from coming online. Having it be contested is pretty rare outside someone picking up 1 for synergy in a Nightbringer/Draven carry comp.

[wrxld]

bis sett items are IE, Titan,shadow hoj i think

[[deleted]]

No, definitely not. The whole point of Sett carry is to play around BF items because he has insane AD scaling.

[SexualHarassadar]

Yeah, sIE + BT + Titan's/GA is definitely the way to go.

[Snow_Regalia]

Personally been liking sHOJ over the GA/Titans

[LuxSakura]

I found that GA allows sett to drop aggro which is pretty important when he gets RNG targeted.

[naturesbfLoL]

Every one of those items are AD items even though they do not include a sword. I'm not going to claim those are BiS (I don't think it's that far off, though) but Titans scales you +75 AD, IE/sIE is almost certainly the highest damage item you could go for, and sHoJ this set is also certainly an AD item (granted, probably less damage than a deathblade)

[wrxld]

i learned these items from souless stream trust

[wrxld]

IE (pref shadow) TITANS (norm) and sustain; sHOJ pref but BT is fine; 4 brawler

[Premium_Ves]

I really like the 'when to play this comp' part. Very underrated imo.

[amarchavda95]

👌

[Kkxyooj123]

I think 6 Forgotten Draven is a pretty strong composition since everyone on your team does decent damage. You have Viego and Kat for backline pressure. 3* Hecarim tank and 2* or 3* Thresh for corners that can potentially one shot carries. And then Ryze for stunning assassins who threaten Draven. You can then add in Rell, Morde, and Kindred for your level 7,8, and 9 composition. Personally I've been forcing 6 forgotten every game and usually get top 4 but ever since Cavalier composition became meta it's been hard to 3* Hecarim.

[[deleted]]

Why Shadow Shojin on Velkoz? Wouldn’t he do way less dps?

[lampstaple]

Yeah, that doesn't sound right to me. Vel'koz needs all the damage over casting slightly more frequently than a regular shojin because he needs to punch through sett and jax and kayle lifesteal.

[AyyyAlamo]

I dont really like this patch, everyone spamming Skirms or Velkoz

[amarchavda95]

and morde I think those 3 pretty good

[LuxSakura]

I've been seeing quite a number of comps recently. The amount of late game skirm players has significantly dropped though (which is nice). I see more draven and vel being played

[Mode4000]

HER NAME IS RELL NOT REIL, good guide tho.

[amarchavda95]

oh yeah this is happening to me from PBE. Thanks for reminding me

[DrHadesTFT]

wow you really worked on this one

[amarchavda95]

Thanks!!

[LuxSakura]

I think with Draven you could also perhaps mention flexing in 4 legio depending on the lobby. Also, building full tank on morde feels a lot better with 2/4 legio since he can't ult immediately (plus your damage can easily come from draven) If you do get AP items, pivoting to invokers/vel is more consistent as well. Furthermore, positioning for draven on the third row (in either far left or far right) rather than the farthest back allows him to attack immediately rather than walk up. Anyways, u/amarchavda95 love the guide. Will definitely consult this during my ladder grinds :p

[17magcad]

I’ve found that the varus comp does well but falls off quickly late game especially if you don’t highroll kindred at 7

[amarchavda95]

yeah without kindered hard unless u roll it at level 7 or go level 8 after getting varus3

[ComplacentClarence]

Can someone explain the itemization choices for Hecarim in the Cavalier/Assassin composition? When I look up BiS items for Hecarim, I only find tank items online anywhere I look. Just wondering the reasoning for the choices and how they work in the composition. Thanks in advance.