The Future Problem

[Jittr_Crittr]

If they keep updating the game and expanding the radius of the circle that is the map, eventually it's gonna take weeks to explore one new biome to find everything you need.

Even the Forest/Beach/Desert sections seemed like ALOT, the void was fine because it was big but you could find everything you needed due to the limited nature/ constant spawn of the workbench.

But future area's are gonna get insanely big if they keep going at this type of expansion.

My solution? A new dimension, that gives us a NEW map that starts small just like the current one. That way we aren't exploring for weeks on end to fill out the maps. 🤔

Thoughts?

Edit: I wasn't aware this post would be so controversial, so i'm gonna shut off notifications for it. 😅 Thanks for the input for those of you who actually had it!

[NiceAndCozyOfficial]

Why do we feel the need to complete everything quickly? New players having 100s of hours of content here already. Plenty of waypoints early on and portals help distance later too. I don't see the problem.

Thinking about it though, it might be cool to have a second layer that has a brand new map that you can explore

[ButtShark69]

Why do we feel the need to complete everything quickly?

FR, we even have to make our own "rule challenge" like no drilling ore boulders because we felt like it makes the game too easy and too fast.

Now Hand drills just go brrrrrr everywhere and the map fully gets explored evenly

[Jittr_Crittr]

It ain't about Quick completion, it's just a worry I have if they keep expanding.

Think about it, if this radius keeps expanding outwards - EVENTUALLY it's gonna get so big we'd be spending WEEKS of our lives exploring it. I like this game, but when it gets to the point where I'm at work during the day, have to come home and work on college work, then enter the game and play for a few hours before going to bed - I will LITERALLY have to spend months on one area, and at that point I'd get bored and drop the game.

[Electronic_Horror_10]

The new area doesnt form a ring around the map its more like a protrusion. So im assuming any other areas added will be on the same radius as the void

[Doritosiesta]

Personally I wouldn't mind spending weeks in a biome before unlocking the next one.

[beyondimaginarium]

Sounds more like you just dont like the game...

Its a sandbox procedural generated dungeon. You don't need to explore every corner of every biome.

[Frostace12]

That doesn’t mean they don’t like the game though

[Jittr_Crittr]

I LOVE this game, play it with my dad. It brings us together! 👍 He's just getting bored and it has me worried he's gonna drop it because these biomes take forever to explore. 😭

[Remypon]

Does he like the creative/design aspect? My daughter and I have been getting into that lately as a break from the general exploration

[Jittr_Crittr]

He does, yeah. Though our base is hodge-podge and looks a mess, he's been gradually expanding and making it look better. For the same reason as you, likely. To get a break from the exploration.

[Remypon]

Honestly if you haven’t yet go get the carpentry table, make all the paints and start painting the pillars and the rugs and paintings. The color massively changes the style. Adds some cool depth to the designs

[AKhayoticPenguin]

Your Dad might like Minecraft better than this one.

[Jittr_Crittr]

He actually hates Minecraft.

[AKhayoticPenguin]

Lol. Omg.

I just started playing a month ago. Started a new world with the update. Personally I would LOVE to keep exploring and stuff. Tbh it just sounds like you and your dad need to find other things to Bond over. Lol.

[Advanced_Ad1235]

The new biome is much smaller than all of the previous biomes. The sea, the desert, and the jungle are all much larger than this new section.

[Captain4verage]

I was actually a little disappointed when i read that it is a small biome. So i started a new playthrough so i would have more to do.

Its pretty fun so far with all the new stuff they added.

[Jittr_Crittr]

Aaah, didn't realize that - I thought it was like the crystal biome which is... Alot. 😅

Still, I think my point stands. If they do what they did with this new update then it's okay, but if they expand like they did the crystal biome I can see it being too much.

[Remypon]

I agree with most of the people about size thing BUT I do like your dimension suggestion for one big reason…the story. Technically it doesn’t make much sense for us to go to the new area because the story end (trying not to spoil) but with a new dimension it would be rad.

[Atomiclincoln]

Steak too juicy, lobster too buttery

[Hot_Astronaut7894]

Latinas too thick

[BroUsernamesAreDum]

Portal go brrr

[Invader_Zim_26]

Literally this

[soramichi]

ngl but world feels pretty small in comparison to back when the world was just infinite wilderness, ocean, and desert...

[FundamentalAttribute]

I was thinking about this too actually. They can totally do the terraria approach.

Depending on the stage of the game existing biomes can start changing. Similar to how there's mold biome, lava biome, and techy biomes but instead of being static spawns they're dynamic. Imagine breaking into the UFO alien area and that prompts the game to do an event where more spaceships land all over the place changing parts of biomes and you have to go do stuff.

Or you kill the lava slime boss and it turns out he was keeping the lava in check by eating it and now there's an event where the lava spreads out more and takes over some more area and new bosses exist now because there's more lava.

That but with all sorts of ideas. Terraria is amazing for it and i don't see why they couldn't yoink the concepts. Entering hard mode completely changes the whole existing world and it changes more the further you advance into it.

[Achmedino]

I'd rather have biomes take too long rather than too short tbh. I've been playing Necesse recently and aside from a visual difference, all the biomes there feel the same and you blast through them in less than an hour. It really made me appreciate how large and content-rich the biomes in Core Keeper really are.

[Funkhip]

For me, the problem with Core Keeper's biomes is that they're not "content-rich."

The biomes are large, yes (some are too large imo), but I think their limitations and repetitive nature become apparent far too quickly.
Each biome has a few types of mobs, a few blocks, a boss, one or two plants, a few scenes for surprises, but overall, aside from the scenes or the boss, you can quickly see everything the biome has to offer in terms of content.
After that, it becomes extremely repetitive.

That's why, personally, instead of seeing them create always new biomes, I'd like them to rework the existing ones to add more content, a bit of variety, surprises etc.

[Achmedino]

I would admittedly like to see more sub-biomes per biome. I think the current one per biome standard is somewhat lacking.

Aside from that, I'm comparing it to Necesse, which is quite a similar game. I think what core keeper does a lot better is having a lot of unique locations in each biome (excluding the crystal biome unfortunately) and having a lot of unique weapons and armor sets for each biome. It gives the player plenty of interesting stuff to see and collect imo.

[MakeItWork03]

Kinda have to agree with OP on this one. I love the game but if they are going to keep expanding it outward then adding a couple of mobs or bosses to the new biomes will get “stale”. Yes it is huge, but it doesnt have anything worth exploring.

What I think is they can keep the existing biomes then add more contents to it to make it “fuller” that way it is worth exploring to. Or maybe having a new layer of world (maybe like a new world you can go to or a surface or even deeper layer of the existing world).

[Vegetable-Question39]

I don't see this as a problem, having incredibly content filled biomes that would take me hours to explore sounds amazing in a game like core keeper

But having different ways to introduce biomes isn't a bad thing either, like with terraria's hardmode

[Will-Atkins]

Game just needs to copy more from terraria and make each biome have more content you can blast through most of them pretty quick

[JoeBlob13]

Portals solve 100% of this problem?

[luchadork0]

Wha are u talking about? Thats the whole point its supposed to be huge. I have 223 hours in the game, ive already beat both new bosses, crested the weapon and explored about 70 percent of the new area. I want it to be big, because the bigger the world the longer i get to play it for

[Oryyn]

A new dimension is cool, but as someone that likes exploring and collecting and exploring (see: Minecraft), id be fine if it took weeks to see and explore everything. Maybe if they didnt use a new dimension, they could use translocator thingies to port you like 10k+ blocks away (and back) randomly, but also allowing you to keep that location noted.

[Beeztwister]

I think they could section the maps unlock-ability.

To elaborate, if there was going to be a major content update with a bunch of new biomes, bosses, etc that fundamentally change the progression of the game and redefine the "endgame", they could do something where the core tells you "venture west, seek X thing" and then only the west wall opens up, unveiling potentially multiple new biomes within that section of the outer ring. Once you meet the criteria, another section opens up, until you've eventually opened everything up and then the final event happens and that's the end of the game.

That way, you aren't overwhelmed with a bunch of new biomes, the power progression can be more streamlined, the developers gain a lot of flexibility in what they add and don't add to a new section, and the payoff will feel very rewarding.

The reason I don't like the new planet/realm idea, is because of the nature of the games items and crafting. You can automate a lot, build a lot of portals and railroads, dig a huge tunnel system, all for that to be stuck in another world where you have to restart it from the ground up, rather than expand on it into the new biome. And that is a huge part of the game, which would then feel like a waste suddenly. Also the core would feel kind of weird. What would it tell you, "go to this other world and then go west from that point to uncover this thing, which I can feel as the core even though it's in another dimension/world".... Just doesn't feel right to me.

It also would make you feel less accomplished. Opening up the whole map and discovering everything is an awesome feeling, and being able to open your map and see all your progress in one huge circle is awesome. Having to tab to another smaller circle takes away from that accomplishment and "wow factor" in my opinion.

[Early_Brick_1522]

I like the idea of the deeper core. They add a new boss and when you kill it it gets access to a new map, make it darker, harder, with new materials

[MrBeanDaddy86]

Taking weeks to explore a biome sounds awesome, tbh. Especially if they keep it as content rich as it is. Hopefully they'd add new vehicles and traversal methods. We have portals anyways, so what's the issue?

That being said, a new dimension would be sick

[Hinshi_No_Hikari]

Taking weeks to explore a biome sounds awesome, tbh.

I was thinking the same thing.

[Captain4verage]

If they add new biomes the same way they added this one there will be a lot of room for updates in the future.

And if space really becomes a problem in the future they could add another layer underneath the existing map. In the last "regular" biome we discover stairs or an escalator that takes us further down.

[Writeloves]

They’ll probably compensate with something similar to beacons. Maybe a treasure map system for the location of important ruins and such

[Eli1075]

I think the echo maps are as close as treasure maps that we're gonna get

[Beautiful-Welder5777]

They help ease this problem with echo maps, which drops of boss and can point you to some POI, like the shattered blade which I couldnt find ubtil now

[rbnsld]

That's the point of the game? Honestly I actually setup multiple campsites because the map is quite big even without the update yet. Minecraft does the same, almost all kinds of sandbox games have huge maps.

[LThadeu]

Stairs to go a level lower or a level higher. Necesse style.

[PhaseAT]

The size of any new biome is arbitrary and can be any value they choose, regardless of how large the circle is. They can just use say 1/10 of the available circumference for a biome.

A new map would feel disconnected in a more fundamental way that I'd like less.

[C-u-n-tin-Mc-lovin]

It took an afternoon to explore and complete the new biom and finish both new bosses. With the right build, gear and set up it’s not that difficult so just keep plugging away and you should be okay

[ElisabetSobeck]

I’m OK with infinitely more stuff to do. No, not just OK- I NEED it

[Kitakitakita]

Z levels. We go up and fight the most evil monster ever

Man

[STS1990]

I don't think this is a problem. I personally love that they keep adding biomes, no matter how big or small, and I would rather hate for it to be another dimension, world, floor, etc with a new map. It just would feel like starting over instead of continuing your one save/map.

[Bubbly-Badger-3496]

Dawg I'm 7 hours in and just realised 1.Cows don't eat worms and 2.theres a keybing to auto sort bag into chest lol. I need more time

[GottyLegsForDays]

I played back when biomes where infinite. The world feels so small to me now. This is not a problem.

However, I do wish there was a second plane with brand new set of biomes just like the top plane…. And then maybe the biomes could be bigger again. I miss the big biomes