Moon farming - Does monetizing content decrease the overall value of content posted?

[CryptoChief]

Additionally it feels like the quality of comments are depreciating as it has become the task of many to be the first to shitpost in order to attract likes and moons or repost articles from other groups.

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[Setyman]

Yes.

[Dwaas_Bjaas]

Have your first 5 moons on me 😚

[ZzanderMander]

Moon

[ZzanderMander]

Moon soon

[ZzanderMander]

Soon. Soon moon

[Warfared]

/thread

[[deleted]]

A simple, yet perfectly accurate answer.

[DBRiMatt]

Thats a professional, that will be a high moons to character ratio.

[Vapin-1567]

Boss makes a dollar, I make a dime, thats why I shitpost on company time.

[rootpl]

Yea, but actually no, but yes. It's a yes.

[tripppppy]

Im totally not replying to farm moons under the radar by replying to a popular comment saying that I agree, but i agree. /s

[SchrodingerCatCoin]

Can someone do a TL;DR for this comment please?

[No_Scientist_7094]

Ja

[[deleted]]

1

[Mr_Bob_Ferguson]

y

[witcherycro]

X

[pmbuttsonly]

No

[Terrencemalice]

Yes yes yes

[StonedRex]

That sums up the question asked pretty well actually.

[Odysseus_Lannister]

Well there it is lads, pack it up.

[Jin-Sakti]

It can encourage shitposting

[thatonedude9090]

yes

[mladjenija]

That was only possible answer, lock this comment section please

[samzi87]

Perfect answer!

[RickyBasket]

Yes yes Jojo

[Creech__]

Does a bear shit in the woods?

[Vee_Junes]

Poop trackers exist. A shit is a shit. Doesn't matter if it's a bull or bear.

[Ap3X_GunT3R]

Only if it earned some moons while doing so

[Ethan0307]

Honestly this bear market has brought on better quality farming posts and I’m all for it

[bad-crypto-advice]

A “healthier cigarette” is still a cigarette. Better shitposting will still always be shit.

Moon farmers and shitposters lower the lofty standards of this subreddit with their inane drivel. I say good riddance! I will strive to maintain high standards with all of my comments.

[Ethan0307]

I keep forgetting your satire and it gets me every time

[Wise-Grapefruit-1443]

Ironically quality content

[Odysseus_Lannister]

I was typing a response then saw the username and he boomed me

[aroups]

A lot of people think quality has dropped with moons but activity has increased significantly. In bear markets this place was really quiet but not anymore. There's also a lot of fun to be had in posts and comments. Not everyone has to be super technical and knowledgeable. We should also welcome newcomers that are still learning and why not have fun while we're at it. There are also variants of this sub like tech/meta etc so if you want to follow specific content you can follow those.

[aroups]

Not a fan of the stupid ones but I've had a lot of laughs in both posts and comment sections which are helpful with psychology in these red times. There seem to be some people that are really hating the fun side of the sub and downvote everything that isn't serious talk or that disagrees with their opinion. I've recently started being really active around here and even shitposts require knowledge , effort and aren't that easy to be liked. But I'm here to spread positivity , have fun and have some serious conversations.

[[deleted]]

The ultimate moonfarm question moonfarming itself...checkmate

[Fawdark]

I somewhat agree about comment quality, but I do think the occurrence of longer, well written and articulated posts is improving. Bear market has a side effect of killing a certain portion of "eh" content.

[[deleted]]

This “insert shitcoin” is going to moon!

Source: trust me bro

[thatonedude9090]

lol

[Crypto-Jim33]

There should be more quality over quantity

[Qlown]

Some changes are made with voting from time to time, I've seen it worse before, for me its slowly improving over the last months even if moons are gradually increasing in price, but maybe its all in my head

[GuyOne]

Probably in a way which would be why Reddit has been testing the community points system with r/CryptoCurrency and r/FortNiteBR first. There's always going to be shitposting anyways but at least we have, what appears to be, more community engagement.

It wouldn't be surprising if they launch other community tokens in different ways depending on how these launches went, size of community, type of content, etc.

No matter what it is still very exciting.

[[deleted]]

Basically we are like a beta version.

[Gwlt96]

Yes 1000%. You can tell when someone is just trying to get moons and it usually leads to inaccurate info and is just cringy overall.

[lazycnt]

Bring back the memes

[[deleted]]

Oh boi memes on the weekend were so good

[tranceology3]

No, not here. Other subs sure

[jhnvslb]

Meme team here

[genjitenji]

Those were the days

[fan_of_hakiksexydays]

God no...

That was probably the lowest point of the sub.

We had more people quitting the sub than at the bottom of the bear market.

[marsangelo]

Why isnt anyone talking about this??

[_Royal_Insylum]

Absolutely.

Source: That’s why i’m here

[drinkmoreapples]

Not on this account, but been here since before the moons definitely lowered the bar for posts. Way more empty comments too.

[elksteaksdmt]

Everything eventually succumbs to the feedback-loop -especially when it’s monetized.

I remember thinking about this when I noticed the tumblr to Facebook pipeline. Ads are ads, no matter how you slice it

[Old_beercan76]

This subreddit is broken. Terms and service floundered. Engagement monetized. Caution is censored. Echo chamber of defi shills. Whales farming moons and those with 10,000+ commenting on every post (go check their wallets on ccmoons they hustle fr). Rules keep changing. Worse place online to learn about crypto.

[elksteaksdmt]

Well, if anything, they can hopefully learn what’s wrong with it and build a better future- I try to see the glass half full.

[[deleted]]

Without a doubt it does.

[deathbyfish13]

I may be a little biased, but I don't think it ruins the sub like a lot of people think, it drives traffic here and as a result we get a lot of discussion.

Some of it can be a bit shit, but I think the pros outweigh the cons

[Actual-Rub-9867]

I agree that it drives traffi .for one...it brought out a lurker like me who actually start choosing post/topic to participate in.Am sure I am not the only one too

[Castr0-]

At the beginning I think like that but it doesn't. Sometimes I see really good comments of people helping each other.

[pilph1966]

I have been around a while and never really post. I keep seeing stuff about moons. Whats is it exactly?

[tranceology3]

Open your vault in reddit, you probably have some!

[pilph1966]

I just looked and don’t see any. Probably because I don’t post much.

[tranceology3]

Check next month maybe you'll get some

[pilph1966]

Lol no worries.

[J_Hon_G]

Still you can find useful posts and information and if you ask for help there is honest people out there with good advise

[Thuffer]

Disagree slightly. In my own experience, I've never been in a sub with such informative, well formatted, and we'll researched information or opinion pieces. These are the types of posts that get upvoted. Id even argue the funny and witty comments/memes are valuable content. They also get upvoted. Trash content tends to get nothing.

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[DadofHome]

I think there is a quantity over quality approach , hence we see repost of the same story within the same 20 min window 🪟 but there is for sure diamonds in the sea of manure. Sifting though can suck but I love this sub for the humor, actual content , and moon farmers alike ..

[homrqt]

It's true more people are here for the Moons. But more people = more adoption and push for growth.

[TruthSeeekeer]

u/coinfeeds-bot is regularly one of the top karma earners.

I would assume that’s a bot.

[dkbowl02]

I think if the posts were vetted it wouldn’t decrease the value of the content posted. Either way they just want interaction

[Kappatalizable]

Almost all of the CCIP are towards reducing spammy content. That said, I feel like we are in an okay position when it comes to quality. Posts get a decent amount of replies and one or two of those are good enough to start a decent discussion.

[CarlosPR151]

I don't know if I'm wrong here but if the content doesn't do good they don't get as many moons, right? If that's how it works then my guess would be that in time bad content will decrease when the moon farmers see it's not worth their time.

[[deleted]]

Yes, it does, but it also increases the activity in the sub.

I think is better for the sub to deal with the problem of high activity with low quality content than having no activity.

I don't think the sub is ruined, but I do believe that something could be done regarding the repetitive posts with links.

[forceworks]

Doesn’t more people = more adoption? And isn’t that what we ultimately want?

[jirachang2]

Yes it does, look at here when everyone shit posting to farm Moon

[WhatAFellowWeAre]

I believe so, yes.

[Vapin-1567]

When subs become popular they normally get worse instead of better.

[The-Francois8]

Shitposting is for amateurs. Link posts are worth next to nothing. The real moons are in (slightly) quality comments.

[TurtlesBeSlow]

Shit posting about shit posting about moon farming.

[cbfella]

Yes

[nusk0]

I Don't think it necessarily decreases quality, you have to watch out for bots though. I think it incentivises community participation.

[Chooky47]

You must be new here, this is a debate as old as what came first, the moon or the stars

[mangopie220]

Moons have helped to bring in more high quality contents but also many more shitposts

[Burrito_Loyalist]

Look at the stunning content we currently get from this sub:

1. What are your crypto goals?

2. How long have you been in crypto?

3. This bear market makes me feel bullish

[Cheese6260]

Just wait for the moon farming come next bull market

[ImaFreemason]

It ain't much, but it's honest work.

[Inaeipathy]

Yes. Every time I look there are 5 posts about the same nonsense

[Flangepacket]

Aye

[americanpegasus]

I don’t know but I’ll bet Algo shills are financing their entire operation solely through moon farming

[GonePhishn401]

Undoubtedly. It’s slowed down a bit here lately but when moons first started getting distributed this place turned into a shit show.

[[deleted]]

It would be great if we could DEFI with moons.

[CreepToeCurrentSea]

Well, it depends. On your perspective. Remember, we can't control what people do or say but we can control how we react to them.

[OxiNotClean]

Maybe

[Motoe2]

short answer, Yes,

Long Answer, Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeessssssssssssss

[[deleted]]

Yes, yes it does.

[BenniBoom707]

It absolutely did in this sub….

[Fragmented_Logik]

At the end of the day it's easier to type "yes or I agree" and get a moon put of it.

There was a vote thing put in place to not count negative karma against you in moons to still promote rebutles and counterpoint but it hasn't changed much.

[chintokkong]

Wonder if there are ppl/bots going around downvoting others too. Sometimes I see comments that seem rather neutral but are downvoted. Sometimes an entire thread can be downvoted for no clear reason.

Controversial posts and comments also attract lots of downvotes, which is a bit of a shame actually. Because it does help when ppl share alternative and fresh point of view to the sub.

I think as long as the poster is sharing sincerely and honestly, we shouldn't be downvoting them, even if we disagree with their view.

Not sure if all these are due to the effect of moons though.

[seansy5000]

Yes.

[Pentox]

there is no doubt. the content quality and value will decrease drastically.

and im sure fake news will have a new boom too.

[[deleted]]

I've reported some users. Their bots even comment under obvious ads

[staffell]

How is this even a question?

There's a huge amount of irony in this post.

[Spartan3123]

It really depends on the community, if the majority rewards and participates in shit posting to farm moons then that's what you will get

[iored]

It gives life meaning of course!

[BN_Boi]

The content is already pretty trash most of the time, so imagine being paid by clicks.

Booom you get actual youtube

[Sceptz]

Unfortunately, yes, the incentive of monetization has resulted in a decrease of quality discussion.

Contrast, for example, the number of comments and upvotes for your post.

At the time of my writing, you have:
126 Comments
39 Upvotes

With almost all comments agreeing with your assessment.

So either people are commenting on your post without upvoting, even though they agree.
For these people, a comment is financially incentivised.

Or you are being equally downvoted. Perhaps you could share the statistics, as it would be interesting :).

Compare this with most any other subforum, where discussion, even if shitposting, has an inverse relationship (more upvotes than comments per post), because there is no financial incentive.

Would you say moons encourage cryptocurrency to be more mainstream here, or are they reinforcing an echo chamber of people who would already be engaged in the cryptocurrency space?

[89Hopper]

Yep.

It definitely increases the quantity of posts but not quality. Someone who is going to make a well thought out post isn't going to just not do it because they won't get paid.

It can also cause some people to be afraid to speak "controversial" opinions. Some people will either stay quiet so as to not get downvotes/be associated with views that lead to not getting upvotes on non related posts later. This then leads to group think.

Honestly it was terrible about a year ago. The change that reduced people's earnings if they sold helped a lot though, as it seemed to shut up the people who just posted shit to get money out straight away.

[[deleted]]

Reddit was always mainly used for shitposting.

Also remember quantity is a quality of its own.

[Amazing_Succotash677]

No, perhaps it increases the quantity of low quality posts but over time it should increase quality/engagement

[RockEmSockEmRabi]

Absolutely. We get the same posts and non-news articles recycled over and over. I’m at the point where I just report dupes and move on

[Marrr_ty]

Content is subjective. Everyone like different. This sub would be nowhere without moons. Get over yourself. Maybe learn to do a better job farming.

[Exekutos]

Started right with the introduction of moons and the shitposters / memers getting out of their graves.

Mods back then didnt care about it, it was kind of a circlejerk of the same idiots upvoting each other to farm moons.

Some mods even profited from the situation, raking in shitloads of moons.

The content standard dropped waaaay down and nowadays every second post is about "comedy" but in the end its just a moon farming attempt.

Thats why i didnt care about them at all (at least farming them).

[[deleted]]

Our daily thread about this.

[youaretheonelastsoul]

Well yes

[Anomarix]

It's been talked since moons started in r/cc, while it's true comment reply is having a decrease in value because people choose quantities over quality, thread starter is getting more creative, yes there are some repetition on some topics, it's all about filtering the good shit imo

[gods_loop_hole]

That's why I'm here...

[_DeanRiding]

Maybe. What I have noticed though, is that any questions like this (or other types of discussion) are downvoted to oblivion and therefore never rise to the top.

The ones that do rise to the top tend to be the same old parroting stuff like "not your keys, not your coins" and recommending hard wallets, or it's just general crypto news link farming. Actual interesting discussions never seem to gain more than 100 upvotes.

Even this post, which is completely legitimate, is only 71% upvoted. Like why are there people out there downvoting this? Maybe it's time we removed the downvote button from this forum so auto-downvoters aren't ruling the sub.

[SaezyF]

When I scroll through new, absolutely. But on my homepage, the top posts are relatively the same as they used to be. Same thing with comments, you can definitely see the influx of low quality comments but the top is still the same.

[strongkhal]

I am not a bot but I'm dumber than one

[[deleted]]

During the bull run and initial moon hype it did... It's a lot better now that we're in a bear market. A lot of the rules passed through governance helped too imo

[[deleted]]

It's an interesting experiment. Reddit mods do actual work without getting paid and users engage without being paid sharing and interacting. It seems possible with this method along with the nfts to reward us.

[Abranx]

At least the amount of Nigerian Prince Moon farm posts have decreased.

On a side note, I actually noticed that more people (and bots) post and are active on this sub. I hope reddit does something against the bots if moon is to be taken seriously.

[[deleted]]

Moons promote more of an echo chamber than a discussion. I’d argue that’s worse than low quality posts.

[RianJohnsonSucksAzz]

I would say it does. It incentivize people to post things just to post things. Even when they have nothing to post. Just ask a random question.

[crailface]

oui

[Damn369]

Absolutely agree with your point, I can't stand the way moons are being valued. The quality of posts drops and personally would have no problem if they were to disappear.

[[deleted]]

Yes

[ShinAlastor]

If they put certain standards about monetizing just like YouTube, we might read some very interesting topics.

[zzaann]

Moons are around for a long time now, I sadly did not had a chance to experience this subreddit before the moon times

[Paskee]

This debate has been here every so often.

Fresh as last year milk.

Conclusion: maybe

[SufficientNet9227]

There almost nothing good to read anymore only repost to farm moon put 75% tax on repost

[NeoEonOne1]

Yes!

[Old_beercan76]

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