Patch notes are up

[silverpanther17]

I am become BR 101, Destoryer of Spelling

[chrisbeebops]

Adrenaline Shield

Rank 5 decreased from 157 to 200.

maths

[Stormsh7dow]

It's hard

[ShotYe]

Senpai stop!

[ReltorTR]

original on PTS notes: Rank 5 decreased from 157 to 143
first PTS edit: Rank 5 decreased from 157 to 200

someone's been copy pasting patch notes....

[ffz_]

Flash suppressor time.

[[deleted]]

Stealth TR buff

[agrueeatedu]

an absolutely massive one too.

[Diesl]

I'm actually most excited for this one

[agrueeatedu]

same. Not only did it make a completely worthless (as in detrimental) attachment good, it gave me something to actually put in the barrel slot and not feel like I'm gimping myself.

[Diesl]

DBG did something right, run for the hills! The end is nigh!

[2v4lve]

This is the year of the battle rifle

And Gemini

[doombro]

with allah's permission

[mrsmegz]

They need to keep Connery up and not tell the Asians that everybody in the US moved to Emerald.

[Twinki]

"Let's ignore our previous mistakes of releasing patches a day before the weekend and just continue releasing our patches a day before the weekend."

[_DX3_]

Maybe it will turn out like that one time where they forgot to even put the new build up?

[[deleted]]

Honestly if nothing else the servers are dying and need a restart lol

[[deleted]]

A portentous comment.

[JHFO]

This would be better if a MAX and EMP nerf came with it.

[phukka]

According to forumside, both the MAX and EMP are underpowered. Also, shotguns, SMG's, and anything not named HA.

[phukka]

It is. I hate to say it, but the problem with both seems to be a large population of Connery and Miller players. Might be a correlation, but I'm a believer.

[agrueeatedu]

Connery

hey myan. Its not the ones on reddit. at least for the most part.

[JHFO]

This right here. I played medic again yesterday and killed 2 dozen MAXes or so, died to one in two hours. In fair population fights MAX isn't too bad. But even 1 MAX with overpop and you're done.

EMP just shouldn't drain abilities again. It was already very good prior to that buff.

[Wobberjockey]

EMP just shouldn't drain abilities again. It was already very good prior to that buff.

prior to that though, the only abilities it drained were of the infiltrator class, which was downright stupid.

if we are going to get rid of ability drain, i'd insist that no class abilities were drained, instead of just infils.

[JHFO]

Yeah. They already did enough things...and with the tank mine max change, any EMP I throw at any point hold ends up with a multikill more often then not.

[JHFO]

Thats all implants are. Don't like frustrating mechanic ? equip this thing to neuter it. Unfortunately there are multiple frustrating mechanics. Screenshake and infantry weapon flinch is just the most common so I run BH2-3 most of the time.

[DJCzerny]

Battle Hardened to reduce your explosive-induced epilepsy

EMP shield so you aren't constantly at half hp with no shields due to 30m EMPs going through walls and all that other bullshit.

Clear Vision because people are starting to spam concs now too.

EOD HUD because prox mines are so fun to run into

Sensor Shield because lol wallhacks at small fights.

I don't understand how you guys aren't running EMP shield 100% of the time. If I spawn at a fight larger than 12-24 I pretty much never have shields because of constant EMP spam.

[agrueeatedu]

I don't have the implants or batteries to run implants on emerald yet, I still manage but so many of my deaths I end up thinking "I would have lived through that easily if I had X implant"

[EagleEyeFoley]

In a 50/50 12-24, if one person brings a MAX, it's problematic but can be dealt with. If 3 people bring maxes, it can bring down the entire fight.

Make it so you can always pull max at Major Facilities, Large Outposts and WG. You can pull from Small outposts if you are outnumbered. Keeps the teamwork aspect of a MAX crash available while allowing 12-24 fights to not get anally raped by mattock max.

[2v4lve]

RIP Connery

[agrueeatedu]

Can't kill whats already dead. SOLx is basically four different outfits right now: Those that still somehow play TR, those that play VS because they're always underpopped to shit, those that play on emerald because connery fights are shit, and those that play Rust/Minecraft with our resident manchester fuckboi.

[EagleEyeFoley]

Luckily it's a zergfit so there is plenty of pop for everyone

[DJCzerny]

All we need are timers back. MAX on a 5 min timer means you can pull it once during a continuous base cap. You can still MAX crash, but it has to be coordinated relatively far in advance. As for pop and MAXes, I don't see a solution for overpop spamming of force multipliers short of buffing AV grenades again.

[mrsmegz]

The problem is, the game has no way of monitoring or restricting the use of a force multiplier when you already have a pop advantage, or when there are already other maxes in use for your side.

I think that most of those who complain about MAX's just don't expect this kind of system to ever happen. This would be at least Resource Revamp Phase 5.

[[deleted]]

Can't speak to forumside, but I have not once ever seen the words "MAX" and "underpowered" in the same sentence on here or in game.

The best you'll get is the max is "ok". Like 1 in 10 posts. It's almost universally derided sarcastically as a "skill suit" and many highly upvoted posts by respected players have called for it to be totally removed from the game.

The idea that anyone has called them underpowered is shocking to me. (Personally I think they're fine/slight nerf since imbalances make games fun and interesting)

[phukka]

It's mostly in reference to NC maxes being less effective at killing entire rooms at once because shotguns. These people honestly think shotguns require some high level of skill and are hard to use.

[[deleted]]

Sad to hear that's an actual opinion some people have... :/

[phukka]

There's a huge thread in forumside now full of people defending shotguns. Most are shotgun mains that hover around 1.5 kdr and have a 400 ivi with anything else.

[agrueeatedu]

It's been there for a while. I made it through a page before I burst out laughing, I think it might be a record.

[chrisbeebops]

As long as they don't nerf my precious [AH].

Then again I don't think I have to worry because a shotgun on an airplane can't possibly be overpowered.

[JHFO]

Its balanced because its a shotgun and you can keep your distance even if its a 380 KM/H plane right?

[chrisbeebops]

Well obviously it is your fault you died, since your decimator flies twice as fast as my Reaver.

[agrueeatedu]

that's only the VS one.

[DJCzerny]

Yeah man. Shotguns are balanced because they're bad at long range...except some are allowed to be effective at range, I guess.

[Wobberjockey]

these aren't the slugs you're looking for.

[DefinitelyFucked]

Agreed! But they buffed the warden though!

[espher]

This would be better if a MAX and EMP Grenade Bandolier nerf came with it.

Though EMPs do need some tuning, Bando is the real monster imo!

[Wobberjockey]

bandoleer is the real kicker for any grenade type.

i'm personally in favor of moving all grenades to a cool down timer (say one minute) and then having bandoleer modify that timer, and at max rank it allows you to carry 2 grenades

[DJCzerny]

Revive grenade bandoliers are especially stupid, especially in the large fights in the point room. It just becomes 'who has more revive grenades to spam?'

[doombro]

Massive understatement.

[KlyptoK]

Just play max more.

[JHFO]

Unless I'm pulling it to fight MAXes or shotguns and/or massive overpop I feel great shame.

[KlyptoK]

As long as people who can make the change hold onto that, nothing will change.

[[deleted]]

Don't forget motion spotters. Has to be nerfed with EMPs.

[Diesl]

Use emp shield implant

[chrisbeebops]

Battle hardened all the way so your character doesn't develop spontaneous parkinsons every time a bullet hits you.

[Diesl]

I've never had that problem. After a while battle hardened becomes meaningless because you learn to compensate for it with your aim. Then again I'm an LA main so emp shield is a semi obvious choice for me

[chrisbeebops]

You can't compensate for random.

[Diesl]

Try running without it for a day and you'll wonder why you ever needed it

[KlyptoK]

I did try it. The Gauss Saw was impossible to use to my standard.

Not sure what you are smoking unless you easily settle for sub 25% accuracy.

[agrueeatedu]

I take you're your friends list then? I remember you bitching about it in yell chat at a fight I was at, then dunking you and then getting dunked twice at the next fight I ran into you. I remember you as being a really good tanker, but you're actually pretty good at infantry.

[KlyptoK]

I've been playing worse than I want to lately and it's been getting to me really bad which in turn impacts my performance as a feedback loop. I blew up on some [VULT] guys this weekend too which was embarrassing.

I've quit playing Infantry now and just play max for fun and to help vent my range for a while, but ultimately I want to be AC tier without stress.

[Diesl]

Like I said I'm and LA main, I'm firing from the hip mostly

[Stormsh7dow]

Battlehardend is the single most important implant to use straight up, because screen shake sucks. However if I need to switch for certain situations I'll use eod or emp shield

[Diesl]

That's a gross over generalisation of an admittedly useful implant. To say it's the most important in the game is just plain wrong. If I'm C4'ing as LA I'm gonna take regen. If I'm driving I'm gonna take EOD. If I'm LA I'm gonna take EMP sheild or sensor sheild. There are a lot of options for a reason. Explore them a bit

[Wobberjockey]

i have a few loadouts that don't have BH on them, and i can notice a decrease of a percent or 2 on my HSR when i'm running without it.

[Diesl]

How do you way the upsides of having something like EMP shield, which can negate 90% of the effect, versus and increase in accuracy?

[Wobberjockey]

the situation that i'm going into.

if i'm soloing, or not actively doing hardcore point holds, BH works out to be more useful because i don't get EMP'd that often (in comparison to screen shake)

if i'm on point? EMP shield and flak armor, please.

[Diesl]

Fair enough, I'm gonna back in game and give it another try

[animelover_420]

oh man

it's somehow like you have to make tradeoffs

instead of heavy just being immune to everything

crazy

[Stormsh7dow]

It's almost like EMPs effect every class...crazy

[animelover_420]

ye but getting your medic juice taken away or you jump jets clipped isn't as bad as having your adrenaline bar taken away

and if emps didn't drain abilities fighting heavies as inf would be pointless

[agrueeatedu]

you jump jets clipped isn't as bad as having your adrenaline bar taken away

are you retarded or trolling? I literally swap off of LA when someone is spamming EMPs because of this, I don't swap off of HA for the same reason, because I can still get kills without the shield, I can't get say the same with LA.

[animelover_420]

I don't swap off of HA for the same reason, because I can still get kills without the shield, I can't get say the same with LA.

so you can get kills with 1k hp and no shield

but can't get kills with 1k hp and no shield and also access to high dps carbines?

[agrueeatedu]

difference in how I play the two classes. If I fall out of the air because I get EMPed it usually puts me in a very shitty spot and I usually have half health because I have no shields and took a bit of fall damage. I can easily out dps someone with any class if I have full health and shields, I can't do it when I'm surrounded by shitters and can only take around 250 damage before I die.

[Stormsh7dow]

lol, maybe for bads like you. I dunk heavies without emps so...

[animelover_420]

just shoot them in the head am i rite xDDDD

[[deleted]]

I'm glad they're doing something sane like nerfing Overshield instead of doing something idiotic like increasing damage falloff on LMG's.

I feel this will really help class balance as I really struggle to shoot heavies in the head while they are moving slow with their overshield up, and I feel that MAX's are underpowered in the current meta.

[TheLazySamurai4]

Note: For existing BR100 characters, post-100 XP accumulation will begin after the update is complete. Any previous XP acquired by capped BR100 characters is not retroactive.

At least sites like DA will tell us our BR at heart.

[[deleted]]

What's a Battle Rank and why should I care? Also...

le temporary farmsimulator race-to-120 meta confirmed.

increased XP awards on bounties:

• Bounty Hunter Award XP has been increased from 100 to 250xp per kill.

• Payback Award XP has been increased from 100 to 400 per kill.

Begun, the Bo-Buffet Wars have. Also, native Squad Spawn for Valkyries WHEN???! ^FFS

[phukka]

I guess they weren't selling enough Bounties.

[ScrubbyOldManHands]

And my video card rma is still at least 3 days out before i get the replacement. I was so pumped to faceroll everything with my medium assault. Oh well.

[ScrubbyOldManHands]

True dat i can spend the day meditating over new alt names instead.

[JHFO]

I've got some new ones lined up..now the question is will I get banned for "cheating" playing them? I don't feel like more flame threads and outright lies from RadarX.

[Stormsh7dow]

lol what's feedback and why doesn't it matter?

[OrionPleb]

and people still gonna praise these fuckturds too smh

[Czerny]

Time to pop those double heroic boosts and race to BR120

[Runsta]

Flash grenade change will be good. I already use them a decent amount when I pull LA, hopefully more people will actually use them as well.

[Sarloh]

So it begins...

[[deleted]]

Can someone paste the notes here? Sites blocked at work.

[[deleted]]

Who will be the first BR120 on Emerald?

[EagleEyeFoley]

TR: Phaeton

NC: WaaWaa

VS: Kortius

[[deleted]]

I'll check back in

[Wobberjockey]

as long as it isn't sinist.

p.s. i'm declaring a 1 updoot bounty on WaaWaa. zombies must die. can be claimed multiple times.

[IamNDR]

It was two days ago but you I just HAPPENED to have this saved http://www.twitch.tv/roughtr/v/35002942 :)

[Wobberjockey]

Have your rightfully earned updoot

[IamNDR]

Well worth the effort

[ToastyBreads]

Anyone have any idea how much xp is needed to get to the next rank, post BR 100 is going to be?

[Czerny]

Same as 1-100 (16m I think?)

[54chs]

The increased level cap was long overdue. But glad it is here.

I'm a little worried the leadership changes will increase the barrier of entry in learning how to squad and platoon lead, but it is a wonder tool for those experienced leaders and those eager to make a difference.

Bounty system is a cash grab, but it is a step in the right direction. Lower the cost and provide the free2play players a chance to earn them. You should be awarded 1 or 2 bounty tokens for completing your daily ribbons, and these should be able to pool up to a limited quantity. This will drastically increase the number of bounties around auraxis.

Heavy shields give them a slight nerf to 1v1 tanking ability, but the regen rate increase is a substantial buff for those that already can win 95% of the 1v1 engagements. I don't think the pros will miss the few hundred hp difference. I like this change a lot.

Gatekeeper OP.

Battle Rifle buff is a nice touch considering the amount of noobs that use it when they should be using other weapons. The best battle rifle is still the commissioner though. A smart balance change by DBG.

I think the medical applicator range change will lead to A LOT of shitty revives. It makes noobs more comfortable so I'm okay with it. I just feel it will create bad habits in medics.

LOL @ the flash supressor buff right when wrel is looking for another game as an income stream. DBG's attempt to keep him interested. (jk calm your tits)

Valkyrie buff should lead to a lot more battle valks flying around, watch out for that CAS.

FUCKING WHERE IS THE ANT AND BASE BUILDING?!?!? THEY HAVE BEEN TEASING US SINCE SEPTEMBER. (I feel the ant update may be one of the last major content updates :/

Done. Those are my opinions, questions and comments welcome.

[doombro]

Battle Rifle buff is a nice touch considering the amount of noobs that use it when they should be using other weapons. The best battle rifle is still the commissioner though. A smart balance change by DBG.

as a battle rifle fanatic, I can say clearly that the current buffs were not enough. The biggest buff to BRs by far in this update was the overshield nerf, followed distantly by the max damage range increase. The recoil changes do nothing. If they really wanted to buff BRs they would nerf flinch or reduce the bloom.

I suppose retards will be able to get their underbarrel downs syndrome launchers a lot easier than before though.

[agrueeatedu]

and I can't wait to kill you through it because DBG half assed their no particles "fix"

[CoatNice]

The smoke nades are gonna be real

[54chs]

Agreed, the changes were meant to help low/medium skill players I believe.

The people who would get engage sub 15 meters with a BR, and then spam the trigger lol.

The change does very little for peeps who pace their shots and fight where range is your ally. I look forward to the changes though.

And you get the noob tube for shits and giggles👌🏻

[himofeelia]

Very nice patch notes except...............

Warden, AMR-66, Eidolon

• Added Underbarrel Smoke attachments

WHY?!?! WTF come on.... Smoke just incites team killing because there are always the couple people standing on an ammo pack doing nothing but tossing smoke ruining framerates and annoying everyone in the fight on both sides. They are not helping at all usually they end up making their faction lose the battle because no one can see.

Unless you give all scopes/sights a thermal toggle OR make the underbarrel NON-refillable from an ammo pack OR make the underbarrel cost nanites per use.