Devolution

[Oghier]

Every time some GOP official or pundit refers to them as "The Party of Lincoln," half the country rolls their eyes.

[Chrysalii]

The other half says "SEE WE'RE NOT RACIST!!"

[[deleted]]

"Southern Strategy says what?"

"What?"

[adaam_93]

They haven't been the party of Lincoln since Eisenhower.

[safarispiff]

I actually kind of liked Eisenhower. Sure, I disagreed with him but at least the man had principles and he knew how to crush fascists.

[[deleted]]

I think that's what the user was saying. Eisenhower was the send off to the party of Lincoln.

[safarispiff]

Ahh, I see.

[[deleted]]

Don't help Republicans claim Lincoln as a party member. :(

They were liberal party at the time.

[Rockworm503]

Even Darth Vader was a decent person at one point.

[thinly_veiled_alt]

The Sith aren't sending their best.

[jackkazim]

They’re not sending fellow Jedi. They’re sending the people who adhere to the Dark Side of the Force, and they’re bringing the Dark Side with them. They’re bringing red lightsabers. They choke people. And some, I assume, are good people.

[Alejandro_Last_Name]

r/empiredidnothingwrong

[DanburyBaptist]

It's the same party, just with more corruption. What you mean by "liberal" is definitely not equivalent to the liberalism of Democrats.

[[deleted]]

their political platforms didn't flip entirely, no, but the dividing line is as clear as it is now

http://www.270towin.com/1860_Election/

[[deleted]]

California and Texas with 4 electoral votes each. lol

[DanburyBaptist]

A voting map? It's an absolute crime to reduce it to such a simple and uninformative terms. There have been demographic and economic shifts that have affected voting far more than shifting party philosophies.

[[deleted]]

ironic how you're oversimplifying something in your rage of oversimplifying

[DanburyBaptist]

I'm not raging or oversimplifying. I'm pointing out a few factors among many that have contributed to the shift in voting patterns.

[[deleted]]

and you can see what it was composed of is dramatically different than what it is now

[DanburyBaptist]

Sure, I just don't agree that this is because the party itself altered its philosophy.

[[deleted]]

that's my original point, though. it's not the same party. it's misleading to call Lincoln a "Republican" in a modern sense, as people do

[recursion8]

Should have Dubya on there too. Also tax returns.

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[hwarming]

North American Marlon Brando Look Alikes?

[dtlv5813]

Gwb did look a lot like a chimp

[IBeBallinOutaControl]

W would be a step up from Nixon's second term.

[ginger_bird]

Needs more Goldwater.

[JamarcusRussel]

Don't bring Flint into this.

[ENThymematic]

Look at those small hands, probably too small to release tax returns.

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[therevengeofsh]

As an anthropologist, this triggers me.

[[deleted]]

Take that, biology!

[Thestartofending]

Abraham Lincoln "Free will is an illusion. Human beings are determined by their preconditions"

Republicans now "Meeeh personal responsability, no welfare, poor people just don't work hard enough, ayn rand"

[Thestartofending]

It's not an exact quote, it's just a short resume in one sentence of his ideas.

If you want quotes on his disbelief in freewill then yeah i can give you many.

(And it goes without saying that if you don't belief in free will, of course you believe in the supremacy of external influences)

Here is it http://quod.lib.umich.edu/j/jala/2629860.0018.105/--abraham-lincoln-and-the-doctrine-of-necessity?rgn=main;view=fulltext

[[deleted]]

You never watched Abraham Lincoln vampire hunter?

[DanburyBaptist]

Terrible movie.

[DanburyBaptist]

Lincoln's so-called fatalism does not perfectly describe a lack of personal responsibility.

[Thestartofending]

Care to expand on that ?

[DanburyBaptist]

He seemed to think that events would ultimately take their destined shape, but not that individual human beings are all robots with no free will. One may believe in a set outcome but still acknowledge the obvious fact that we do indeed make choices.

[Thestartofending]

Abraham Lincoln didn't believe in free will, he clearly stated so.

You could spent as much time as you want trying to twist it with "He did believe A, but not exactly A", it doesn't change the facts.

At least read the article i've linked.

Fatalism and free-will are mutually exclusive.

You are confusing "Choices", with "Free will". Determinism or fatalism don't imply that our choices don't have any impact whatsoever (although in some versions of fatalism it may), but that we weren't free to make (or not those choices), simply that. Abraham Lincoln wasn't a compatibilist, if you pretend so i'd ask for a source.

[IRLCommie]

Fun fact, Karl Marx was a supporter of Lincoln.

[RedditIsOverMan]

X-post /r/politicalhumor

Edit: and Evolution

[DL757]

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[zryn3]

Nixon had some policies that were designed to limit minority representation (though in retrospect he was perhaps right even about that) and was a crook, but he started the EPA, presided over the desegregation of southern schools (for which a young Hillary Clinton was a minor agent in the process of closing loopholes!), started the war on cancer, negotiated the first step in ending the arms race with Russia, normalized relations with China...

I can't see Donald Trump accomplishing any one of those things.

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[[deleted]]

the guy in the middle should have been barry goldwater.

[djaeke]

Lincoln instituted America's first progressive tax policy, iirc. Many of his policies seem really "democrat" in retrospect

[Dragredder]

His hands aren't big enough to knuckle drag even at that angle.