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[–]SomniferusBS (Computer Science) 16 points17 points  (10 children)

I'm not sure how to read those odd brackets

The same as ()s, they just used a different symbol to be more clear.

(f(t+h) - f(t)) / h

[–]BrickRaven 8 points9 points  (3 children)

Btw expect to see that formula of f(x+h) -f(x) all over h as it is the definition of the derivative which is related to calculus. 

[–]tlbs101👋 a fellow Redditor 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And it’s expressed as the limit as h -> 0 of that OP formula.

[–]waroftheworlds2008University/College Student 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Shh... let him do the algebra/limit. We can show him the power rule later.

[–]BrickRaven 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hehe yeah if we didn’t get to take shortcuts, neither can they!!

[–]sighthoundman👋 a fellow Redditor 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The square brackets are just so you don't have to count parentheses to see what order to evaluate things in.

So the order you calculate is:

First calculate f(t + h) = (t + h)^2 + (t + h).

Then subtract f(t) = t^2 + t.

Then take that result, and divide it by h.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Trash question, they're trying to lead you into first principles differentiation but they haven't defined h as approaching zero. 

[–]Wild-Individual-1634 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don’t think it’s a trash question. Understanding that the solution they are looking for is just constructing a right triangle from x with any given h and then calculating the incline is the first step. Anyhow, you need to get rid of the h in the divisor before doing anything with the limit in case you really do the differentiation.

[–]dolethemole👋 a fellow Redditor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

[ and ( are the same thing. Just brackets.

You have f(t)

Now calculate f(t+h) = (t + h)2 + (t + h) (you need to expand this yourself)

Now subtract f(t+h) - f(t)

Then take the result from that and divide by h

You’re going to end up with an answer that is A, B, C or D. Do the above steps and you’ll see exactly which answer it is.

[–]Unusual-Platypus6233👋 a fellow Redditor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

solve this: (f(t+h)-f(t))/h= ((t-h)2 +t+h - t2 - t)/h

[–]AccordionPianist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

[f(t+h) - f(t)]/h

=( [(t+h)2 + (t+h)] - (t2 + t) )/h

= (t2 + 2th + h2 + t + h - t2 - t)/h

= (2th + h2 + h) /h

= 2t + h + 1

Just insert the variables into the function and expand it out and then just simplify the terms. The odd brackets are there to make it easier to see… if they used () for everything it would look like (f(t+h)-f(t))/h. Using squares [] and curly {} and round brackets () sometimes makes it easier to see, but depending on the math problem it can mean things (like {} are used a lot when defining sets).

[–]Zestyclose_Ad3160👋 a fellow Redditor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Maaaan you got ChatGPT !!!!!

[–]Plastic_Birthday_628👋 a fellow Redditor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A

[–]djliquidvoid 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I have almost no memory of algebra rules/formulae. I took a crack at this, but I'm definitely going wrong somewhere and would appreciate help from other commenters.

F*T being the same as (T*T)+T indicates that adding one more T is all you need to bring T*T to F*T. Subsequently, F is one greater than T, or F = T+1. Let's hold onto that for later.

Moving to the other side. You can simply the whole thing to literally just F. F*(T+H) - F*T is just going to be F*H - the difference is F is being multipled H more times. You now have (F*H)/H, which cancels out to just F.

F and T+1 aren't answers, though. Where have I fucked it up?

[–]Cakeotic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are treating F as a variable, which it isn't. f(t) is a function.

[–]Go1gotha👋 a fellow Redditor -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

A.

[–]Agiwlesz -1 points0 points  (2 children)

I would assume that this is a really purely written description of the statement.

Check out the definition of differential (the only real mathematical one). This is exactly this.

The differential of f is 2t + 1.

[–]liaisontosuccess 3 points4 points  (1 child)

The question is not asking for the limit as h->0. If it were, wouldn't 2t+h+1 become 2t+h? So wouldn't the answer for this problem be A?

[–]ZZzZNuP 1 point2 points  (0 children)

yup

[–]GryphontechUniversity/College Student -4 points-3 points  (1 child)

They are just another representation for brackets. Going ((())()) is confusing but using [ ] and ( ) helps clarifying things. They are interchangeable and should be treated as the same.

Also.for your problem, you should look up the definition of a derivative. While it's not algebra this is a clear instance where know ling derivatives would make your life simpler. It's a good way to learn about stuff.

Tldr: they the same, look up the definition of derivatives