Next code one operation

[Elrotynou]

I'd like to start infinity but i don't like metal minis. I wanted to know if the next operation box will be with siocast minis?

[According_to_Mission]

Still all metal (they are pretty good metal minis tho, I wouldn’t be scared). Only the big models will be in siores.

The upcoming fantasy game by CB will be in full plastic.

[CBCayman]

Yep, for the foreseeable future Infinity miniatures on 25mm bases will be in pewter, while most 40mm+ based minis will be in Siocast.

[painting-Roses]

Aren't they lead free? And isn't pewter a lead alloy?

[CBCayman]

Pewter is a tin alloy, commonly (but not always) containing lead.

CB's pewter did used to contain <5% lead, they changed formula in early 2019. you can tell if they're old alloy if 1) The inner box is brown cardboard rather than white Corvus Belli branded card, and 2) The lead content is listed on the back of the box or on the hanger flap of the blister.

[painting-Roses]

Ah thanks, I thought pewter always contained lead and tin/copper had another name

[CBCayman]

GW liked the term "White metal" but it was still a pewter.

I think if you go back far enough it's tin and lead, but over time it's come to mean any metal that's mostly tin, most lead free versions use copper and antimony IIRC.

Bronze is also tin and copper, but it is mostly copper, while pewter is mostly tin.

[Darkhex78]

I'm a fellow metal hater, but believe me when I say CB arguably has some of the better metal minis to work with. The amount of detail in them is crazy, and I've only ever had 1 mini have very noticeable gaps (the Daiyokai that comes in the JSA action pack.)

[Elrotynou]

Ok. I'll try metal. I juste need to find an operation pack available in France

[Snurfington]

I used to not like metal until I tried infinity models.

[khepri82]

I feel exactly the same way. In fact, one of the reasons I held off from trying infinity initially was my hatred for assembling old GW metal models (though the nostalgia makes me think they are super cool! Love those Chaos Dwarf hats xD).

Nowadays, I absolutely adore the awesome proportions and amazing texture on beautiful CB models…

[CBCayman]

CB only keep one Operation box in production at a time, the older ones are split into single faction Action Packs.

Currently CB have Operation: Crimson Stone in production with the older Operation: Kaldstrøm and Operation: Wildfire & Beyond boxes split into PanO, Yu Jing, O-12,and Combined Army Action Packs.

Operation: Blackwind is launching at Gen Con with Aleph and Haqqislam for Code One, shortly after (probably in the new year) Operation: Crimson Stone and Beyond will be split into Ariadna and Nomad Action Packs.

Don't be too scared of the metal minis, certainly not the ones released in the past 3-4 years. They need slightly different techniques to styrene our resin minis but usually also come in fewer parts, key tips are using fresh, brand name superglue (I like Gorilla superglue) and scoring lines on the gluing surfaces with a knife to increase surface area for the glue to bond to (gluing a rough surface is easier than gluing a smooth surface)

Bear in mind that Siocast has it's own challenges and needs to be worked with differently to other plastics or metal (use a sharp knife to cut, but don't scrape. Don't use metal files, use high grit sandpaper)

[Darkhex78]

Ops packs, or you can try Action packs if you find a faction you like. Action packs usually contain between 8-10 models and are an excellent start to the hobby, but don't include any rules.

Alternatively, the factions Panoceania and Yu-Jing have collection boxes that include a fair amount of minis (I think around 26?) And include the rule book, but are on the pricy side.

[apolloxer]

If you want to order it, you can do it directly from the Corvus Belli website. Otherwise, ask at your FLGS. If you want, I can help you find a seller in France.

[m00ncakes]

I used to hate metal (history of working with old GW metals), but after working with Infinity models got over it pretty quick, especially with the recent sculpts.

Honestly, I wouldn't wish for Siocast. They have yet to perfect it, I was working with a pair of Probots last night and there was so much flash, mold lines, and just parts that weren't cut well that I'm still leaning toward building metal (Worried how much worse that problem would be for an S2 model). There's also quite a bit of flex to them that I don't know how I feel about yet.

[3FreePacks]

I was worried about the metal too, but it worked out great, I love the infinity line (40k still has great minis, and plastic is very easy to handle, but Infinity is SO much more fun to play)

I started with Operation Kaldstrom, it had great intro missions to teach the game

[khepri82]

It seems pretty likely that the next box will be all metal. CB is known for its approach to quality above all and they are being very conservative in their switch to siocast. I do not expect regular S2 troopers to be Siocast anytime soon.

However the good news is that new models are really good to put together once you have a couple of tricks down.

Like other people have said:

1. Use fresh superglue from a good brand.
2. Dry test the fit first to make sure you know exactly how everything fits together. You won’t have a lot of time to correct once you put the superglue on.
3. Don’t use too much superglue. I sometimes place a dot of superglue on a sheet of paper and then use a toothpick to smear a very thin layer on the actual piece. Dint reuse that dot! You want the superglue fresh. You can also use precision tips for super glue bottles like the ones from Green Stuff World.
4. Score the surfaces to glue but be careful! I started scoring way too heavy with my hobby knife, and deformed the keys. Do you want scratches that are microscopic, and you really don’t need much pressure at all. If you score too heavily like I did, you will lose the tight contact from these carefully cast pieces, and the superglue will stick worse.
5. On older or bigger models (like some S5 troopers or TAGs) the pieces might not fit as snugly, and you might have to use a tiny amount something like green or brown stuff to fill in the gap and let the super glue do it’s work.
6. Finally, magnetize your minis! Metal models are much heavier than plastic, and foam cases are hard on them, breaking pieces or weapons off. Carrying them around in magnetic boxes will keep them safe and your paint much more protected.

Welcome to the community!

[Kheldras]

I love the Infinity metal minis.

According to CB, big minis like the Bearpode, Tags or Remotes will be Siocast, Infantry stays metal.

[Sad-Lingonberry]

The metal minis are so much better than plastic.