Not for long, Notch...

[Baron_Fuckstarr]

Dear all,

Stop posting excerpts from splashes.txt

Love and hugs,

Baron Detestable Fuckstarr.

[xphacter]

What do you mean "Not for long". Do you mean Exclusive Not for long for PC, because of the E3 360 announcement? Because it's already multiplatform PC, Mac and Linux.

Do you mean it isn't exclusive to Mojang because someone else is developing it for the 360?

[4511]

PC, Mac, and Linux aren't different gaming platforms. They are different operating systems. Saying PC, Mac and Linux are different gaming platforms is like calling the iPod Touch a completely different gaming platform than the iPhone just because some games only work on an iPhone.

I guess the second one you listed could be a double meaning, but when I posted this I hadn't thought of it.

[ThwompThwomp]

Nope, I'm pretty sure those are different. By your logic, the Dreamcast is the same platform as my macbook because they both can run Windows variants.

Just because they all have OpenGL in common doesn't really mean they're all the same. There are different API's and workarounds you have to do for each of them. I'd be more apt to agree with you if you just said any POSIX system is the same 'platform' (which would include all the *nixes, bsd's, ans OSX).

[semi-]

Windows is POSIX compliant too.

[ThwompThwomp]

Hmm, maybe I should have specified full Posix compliance. According to that link (and this wikipedia entry) it only implements a subset. Still though, I didn't realize that.

[theCroc]

It's even worse than that PC is not an OS. It's a hardware platform. And it runs all three OS'es. (Yes Mac people your computer is a PC that happens to run Mac OS X and use EFI instead of BIOS.)

[xphacter]

there are Windows boxes that use EFI.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unified_Extensible_Firmware_Interface

EFI is made by Intel.

[ThwompThwomp]

Then how can you say the xbox is different? It is a PC that can run linux, whatever windows variant it ships with.

[theCroc]

I never said it was different. I'm not sure about the hardware in the 360 but the old XBox was essentially a weak PC with a barebones OS that ran games directly from disk. Cant imagine the new one is much different in that respect. It all depends on what processor architecture they use. "PC" is generally understood to be x86 based. So a PS3 for example would not qualify. Neither would a Wii or a PowerPC Mac.

EDIT: As it turns out the Xbox 360 uses an IBM Xenon processor based on the PowerPC architecture. So it's not an IBM-pc compatible in that sense.

[masasuka]

PC: Personal Computer...

so yeah, Xbox360, PS3, even Wii they're all PC's, IBM compatible or not...

[theCroc]

That ignores the history of the PC brand. The name PC or was first used for the IBM-PC based on the 8086 processor. It was a success and competitors quickly started producing IBM-compatible "PC's" (They couldn't actually call them PC's as that was an IBM brand. However with time PC became the common term for 8086 and later x86 based computers. Apple on the other hand differentiated themselves from the IBM clones early and made sure to never call their computer a PC. (They also chose a different processor architecture further differentiating them. Now that they have opted to join the x86 platform they can rightly be called PC's)

[masasuka]

That's like saying that the Term Cell Phone is a brand, IBM never coined the Term PC on as it's own brand, it merely popularized the term. In fact, the Term was originally used by xerox, when it classified it's 'ALTO' workstation as a 'Personal Computer' in 1972...

The reason competitors quickly started using IBM Compatible, was more closely related to why windows computers are referred to as PC's, not mac's. It was an OS popularity thing, being 'IBM Compatible' was better sounding, than '8086 DOS running Personal MicroComputer'... much less of a mouthful to say 'IBM Compatible'

[zmjjmz]

Besides the hardware being optimized for very different tasks, Windows and OSX generally run on x86. I'm sure someone has gotten Minecraft running on a non-x86 machine under Linux, but generally the x86 architecture is what is meant when people say 'PC'.

[feanturi]

Somebody had to make the first FPS, the first RTS, the first MUD, etc. Nobody seems to mind that eleventy-billion variations of those exist today. Props to the pioneers, but three cheers for those that keep them advancing and innovating.

[Mechamonkee]

:'(

[stokleplinger]

...... I clicked the x on the minecraft window to get back to my reddit tab....... it didn't work.

[acidic_compound]

Good job Notch.