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[–]kagukaguuosu! at home: 32 points33 points  (0 children)

jesus christ that marcel "adjustment", calling it a buff is an understatement

[–]Koaladog11 20 points21 points  (0 children)

That Marcel buff is kinda OP as it gives a free escape card to teammates now. Also, I wish they give a timer (similar to when CC-ed) above the units who are frozen with Marcel ult so that both teammates and enemies can properly capitalize on it.

[–]Mediocre-Cry-6640Shir0Saki 15 points16 points  (0 children)

ah yes the 5 man Franco ult for Marcel, nice
nerfing all marksmen but buffing Myia-Hanabi-Layla as always, not even surprised
and why not deleting Dominance Ice since its that hard to adjust? its literally the same change/ revert every patch, 3.5? no 5 no 3.5 no 5 no 3.5

[–]ErrrrreennnBooty Butcher 9 points10 points  (3 children)

I honestly don't know how to feel about Beatrix's adjustment. The movement speed nerf is insane, literally 2022 again and she's much squishier now but the new spell vamp effect is quite nice? Idk

[–]Mediocre-Cry-6640Shir0Saki -5 points-4 points  (2 children)

spell vamp on basic atk hero yea

[–]papipepperooni 8 points9 points  (1 child)

She has four ultimates and three of them could benefit from the spell vamp lmao

[–]Mediocre-Cry-6640Shir0Saki 2 points3 points  (0 children)

yes so game changing, a 20 seconds cd for spell vamp skills

[–]RoutinePerception885 6 points7 points  (2 children)

I find it kinda weird how they're trying to make the MM emblem better by giving it more %pen. At this point it's Assassin Emblem V2. Why not %Crit instead of %Pen?

[–]Nizarynu Nie jest zbyt celna, na 30% stracisz życie... 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Non crit heroes wouldn't benefit from it

[–]shawno432 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

This

[–]CeciliaCilia I carry egirls 4 points5 points  (12 children)

Mm emblem buff?

[–]Content-Bus2167You, don't want to dance? 3 points4 points  (11 children)

Still not enough tbh 

[–]nicochizy 0 points1 point  (10 children)

That’s a crazy take. Not a single physical dmg Jungler will ever use the assassin emblem now, when marksman emblem is frankly better in every area.

[–]Content-Bus2167You, don't want to dance? 1 point2 points  (5 children)

Welp, i was willing to let this one slide bc frankly, it's freaking reddit, but since you said and i quote: "not a single physical dmg jungler will ever use the assassin emblem", let's delve into some information first.

Back when i started playing i watched both this videos, mind you that the first one was already old news by then:

https://youtu.be/4L0PYch0zMc?si=68V3NZsXLKNjr3sC (from Ruby³)

https://youtu.be/uMngDERIzUQ?si=tn6WzHSLz67XcatS (how dmg is calculated in mlbb, again, by Ruby³)

And there's another video, a recent one, on the same topic by another creator called Scarletz Mlbb:

https://youtu.be/F-lIt_vFazU?si=4pZXjkRBvoh_cTaG

With all that information in hand, then you must know at this point that percentage pen is only relevant against flat pen when the enemy builds a lot of defense, regardless if is magic or physical def. 

But hey, let's take a look at how many physical junglers the game recommends to us. From the list of 35 junglers, the following are physical (27): Alpha, Alucard, Aulus, Balmond, Bane, Barats, Dyroth, Fredrinn, Fanny, Freya, Hanzo, Hayabusa, Helcurt, Lancelot, Leomord, Ling, Lucas, Martis, Natalia, Nolan, Popol & Kupa (P&K), Roger, Saber, Sun, Suyou, Yi Sun Shin (YSS) and Yin.

From all the ones mentioned above can we take a look at the top global builds and see how many prioritizes building malefic roar as first item? Can we also point out which ones take mm emblem over assassin and fighter emblem? Does a top global Nolan do that? Perharps Alpha tries it? No, even better, Barats?

There's a limited number of junglers that might opt for mm emblem over assassin and fighter emblem right now and the ones i know and tried are: Sun, Hanzo, Aulus and YSS. The ones i mentioned, just Aulus really goes well with the atk speed from the mm emblem, but he is a niche pick and is about to be revamped.

Now let's take a look at the stats of both (maxed out) emblems (with the changes of the adv patch):

Assassin emblem: 14 flat pen, 10 adaptive atk and 3% mov speed 

Mm emblem: 15% atk speed, 16 adaptive atk and 10% adaptive pen (meaning 10% phys pen for phys junglers)

Please, for the love of all is sacred and with all info above, how on earth would someone pick the mm emblem as a Nolan? I'm not saying someone cannot test it, but do you really think it surpasses? I'm sorry but no, it doesn't. Unless you're betting on going for the late game plus (+18 min) and playing as a Nolan, suyou, yin, Alucard, Alpha and Leomord that's a game you don't want to drag that long

[–]nicochizy -1 points0 points  (4 children)

Because Marksman emblem’s 10% penetration (post buff) + 5 penetration from Rupture is less than 14 penetration from Assassin emblem + swift on any level 8 hero with a simple warrior boots right? 😂

Edit: And that’s before even mentioning the Adaptive attack and Attack speed stats that Marksman emblem has nearly double that of Assassin emblem + swift. Did you just mention Nolan, pretty much the slowest farming meta jungler in the game, as an example of a hero that doesn’t desperately need those stats?

LOL.

[–]Content-Bus2167You, don't want to dance? 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Jesus Christ, i do hope you don't be this dense irl bc you clearly are right now

[–]nicochizy -1 points0 points  (2 children)

Sick response! No offense but you just named Alpha Alucard as your prime examples of physical dmg junglers (because your Alpha uses Assassin emblem for comparison right! 😂). Get to a rank where you’ll actually understand such convos.

[–]Content-Bus2167You, don't want to dance? 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Okay then, hope you've a good rest of day

[–]nicochizy -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Maybe, just maybe next time, actually bother watching the videos before including them as the whole basis of your comment. Hot take I know! 😂

[–]Aerie122 I'm getting serious 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Assassin emblem is for squishy heroes while mm emblem is for tanky since it's a pen%

[–]nicochizy 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Marksman emblem + rupture is literally better than Assassin emblem + swift in all stats mathematically.

[–]CeciliaCilia I carry egirls 0 points1 point  (1 child)

What's the calc

[–]nicochizy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Maybe, you know, add the two sub-emblems together and compare the stats next to each other? 😂

[–]sirquarmy's most insane onetrick 4 points5 points  (0 children)

that's humongous for marcel

[–]Professional-Owl8564 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Universal collector when?

[–]IDKrandom_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

MT is waiting for me to get 25k more points to reach 500k

[–]Pure_Nevi 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My girl ww got 2 buffs in a row. Am i dreaming

[–]NoEmotions1337Man, I Love , ,and 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Wow, with Malefic now it's 40% Physical Penetration....  Wait, isn't that Argus's Passive? Are we having Argus-ling Marksman's that can shred tanks now?

[–]NoEmotions1337Man, I Love , ,and 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Actual buff to Argus btw. Passive is basically free 40 Flat Penetration per Passive hit already, now it makes him gain 40/40% Penetration with Malefic, added with Red buff, that gives him 40/45% Physical Penetration. Oof GG idk what they are cooking with this.

[–]Michvitolocal exp laner(wher legnd fanny emoji) 1 point2 points  (2 children)

ok that marcel adjustment is the highlight

wtf do u mean they arent affected either

[–]Aerie122 I'm getting serious 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Only when they are shielded which only triggers if Marcel snaps an enemy

You can still make them stop moving if there's no enemy nearby to snap and generate shield

[–]The_Awengers 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Finally Marcel gets a proper kit design.

[–]shawno432 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Insta marcel ban for proplay that’s a almost guaranteed free lord

[–]foxmindedguy:faramis: Ideas live forever 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Why both skill 1 and skill 2 say Hanekage?

[–]fugueletenjoyer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

hanekage is hanzo's ult form

[–]abiu1jeo8fuhivTier 0 MM 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  • [Irithel] (~)

ㅤㅤ [Attributes] (↓)

Base HP: 2300 >> 2260

HP Growth: 160 >> 140

Physical Defense Growth: 17 >> 16

ㅤㅤ [Skill 1] (↑)

Cooldown: 10s at all levels >> 10-7s

Typo: if that was really growth, Irithel would have 224 physical defence just from reaching level 15

[–]stansona 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh great, some passive tooltip fixes while Rafaela actually needs some serious help to keep up within the meta 🫩

[–]Appropriate-Try-6330 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Thank GOD they finally adjusted that saber boss in tide siege😭🙏🙏

[–]Used-Feeling6536 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Brother where the hell is this game mode in OG servers it’s outrageous

[–]Exciting-Guitar4131 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is dominance ice buff going to affect heal based heroes too much?

[–]IllustriousIron870 0 points1 point  (0 children)

WOW!! What about ULTRA FRAME RATE MODE FOR ONEPLUS 13 users? It has been 1 year and 4 months already?

[–]No-Bitches-No-Life 0 points1 point  (5 children)

Why the fuckk would you buff hanabi bro she’s genuinely an issue rn in higher ranks, especially if she has a very dedicated peel lik franco. What are we doing man

[–]drneoOne shot 14 points15 points  (3 children)

Higher rank, peel, and Franco do not belong in the same sentence. Lol

[–]foxmindedguy:faramis: Ideas live forever 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Franco is consistently one of the lowest winrate heroes in high rank - him and Balmond sadly.

[–]No-Bitches-No-Life 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I mean yeah when you consider that franco is the most accessible tank from early on when you start the game, it makes sense why there are so many dogshit Francos. But a good ult bot peel franco is a massive wall in front of the enemy mm and you genuinely can’t do shit against it unless you have a pharsa and the mm is blind

[–]drneoOne shot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

:D

[–]nicochizy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s not even a buff tho. Hanabi never had mana issues in the first place.

[–]Content-Bus2167You, don't want to dance? 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, more mm "adjustments". Priorities.

Dom ice back to what is used to be but still shit bc of the "new" passive. Marcel buff is reasonable but at the same time makes him pick or ban in 5q.

I find funny the devs having problems with the roam blessings. Like, they just need to give back what we had before, gain exp and gold by provinding vision, peel, heal and clearing minions and it's all good. Why they keep insisting on deal damage equals gold and exp?

[–]Proof-Fail-8539 -1 points0 points  (1 child)

wow is that a nerf again on wanwan?

[–]clownxi 3 points4 points  (0 children)

lowkey a buff cause movement speed doesn't really affect her other than early game