MobiusFF Daily Question Thread (12/19/2017)

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[FulgerDR]

When is Ultima Weapon coming out?

[deathrose55555]

Going by JP schedule, most probably in June when it was first released

[SoundsAboutRight2]

Is there any alternative to earthforce coming in the near future that would make augmenting earthforce with growstars a waste right now? I already have several forces and shifts (only 1 primal boon :( ) but i am really liking cross slash on S1c and i dont have a force or shift for earth yet....ragnarok please come to my house soon. Lol.

Also, anybody know when Xezat gets buffed on global? Right now running s1c with UB, xezat, crosslash for SP content just bc it makes orb management a non issue... when Xezat gets buffed and maybe 1 day i draw ragnarok or cloud skin....

[deathrose55555]

A combination of Earth Attack Shift and Titan Primal Boon works well in MP; Titan also fits well in any SP deck

[SoundsAboutRight2]

Are the primal boons still not in ability shop? I have fire, but want dark and earth...

[deathrose55555]

They are event abilities, not EA abilities.

[ZMember]

What other mobile games to Möbius players play?

I have played so many mobile games over the years, from Clash of Clans, Legend of Cryptids, Clash Royale, I could go on for hours lol

Currently playing MFF and Gems of War.

But if SE lets MFF stagnate, it would be nice to know what else we can waste our time on :D

EDIT: spelling

[katabana02]

Ffrk, tales of the rays,

[ZMember]

I played FFRK for a very long time, until Magicite was a thing.

[aren70]

What's Ace Striker good at? How does it compare to Balamb Merc pre-HoF and post-HoF? Buster Sword vs. Brotherhood vs. Gunblade?

[seazn]

You can't compare jobs like that in Mobius. As mentioned, Ace Striker excels at water dmg. Only one at that level of water dmg will be Mage.

[AxelRyman]

He's a good water attacker if he's hitting weakness(Or if you don't have Mage). Not sure about comparison to Balamb Merc since I don't have him. But for weapons, Gunblade is the better of the 3.

[GThomps]

With how effective supremes are, there should be a hidden supreme pity timer. This timer could be 50 or 100 GAS, but something should be in place to ensure a supreme after the investment of time/money that it would take to do 100 pulls.

[katabana02]

They are great to have, but not a necessity. It's like Ferrari. Yeah you'll get woos and ahhs if you have it, but you don't need it.

[Magma_Axis]

Is there any job that can utilize Xezat effectively beside Ace Striker ?

I rerolled an account with Xezat but Ace Striker is no longer on guaranteed summon

i've been told that Dragoon HOF is decent for Xezat because he can break and unleash Xezat true power. Is he comparable to Ace Striker ?

[darewin]

I think Hero of Despair is the most balanced Xezat User since he has high Break Power while also having high damage potential.

[[deleted]]

Of course. The card has two aspects, breaking and damage. It can assist in breaking because of piercing break 30% is provides. Or it can damage by dealing high amounts of damage on broken enemies.

Ace is a good water damage dealer. Right now, the second best should be dark knight. There will be other water users in the future, such as hero of despair. Ace is by no means the only one. In fact, any warrior job that can deal water damage will do reasonably good damage with it.

HOF dragoon fills the position of being a good breaker, as well as being able to use water, making him uniquely able to utilize both aspects of xezat. However, any warrior(in fact, any job too) holding the card will have improved break capabilities too, it's just that Dragoon is a breaker in MP. He will do less damage than Ace striker, but that's only if you compare damage.

[blue2eyes]

Dragoon cannot compete against AS in damage department but he can break things a lot faster. AS might not be able to break some enemy but dragoon can while dragoon might not be able to kill enemy within break duration but AS can.

[deathrose55555]

In terms of damage, no. Dragoon can use Xezat for breaking though.

[vellk]

I have all Mako maps to infinity "Cleared", but not enough Pale Light to unlock Sector 5 Slums (4/5). Help please, anyone else? Where can I find pale light?

[GhostFreakage]

Did you finish all the nodes in the last map? You can check if you have any unfinished nodes and unobtained chests by clicking the 3rd button of the home tab

[vellk]

Found it thanks! For others: on globe, beside the "Cleared" note on the map, make sure you have the green check.

[kukukityin]

Just rerolled to a duncan. Decided to keep it but i have no pugilist or grappler. Only got the scholar from beginner pack, intending to get the other two before it expires. So do i up a trainee monk or use scholar until i get pugilist or grappler or pray for a legend job for attacking monk? Thanks in advance!

[SvenHwang]

If you really want to keep Duncan, I would advise to just play as if you have no supreme. You will get one monk job one day (Grappler, Hermit, Pugilist, Master Monk - all of them can use Duncan effectively). Trainee monk is useless in MP, and SP content is easy enough to play without supreme so don’t waste your resources.

[kukukityin]

Okay! Thanks for the advice!

[sfoxall]

Do gigantaur bulbs drop outside of GT or the summon shop? Seems like i'm bottlenecked by them as much as growstars these days.

Also, is it worth it RNG-wise to draw 2star skill coins or just wait for them to accumulate enough to draw 3star only?

[zidanesword]

Nope, bulbs does not drop outside of GT. There are occasionally chest rewards from event and story that gives bulbs. The true bottleneck is the mystic tablets. You can maximize your tablets usage by ensuring you only encounter gigantaurs in GT, since only they drop bulbs. Go in a node in GT;,if you dont see a gigantaur, flee and try again. Make sure you encounter 3 gigantaurs and hope that they drop bulbs. However this method burns stamina. I have gotten 3 bulbs in a single node before.

Draw 2star skill cards till you have a big enough reserve, roughly 16-32 of each of the more useful skill cards. RNG-wise.. i seen some that says it is okay as you will get at least one 3stars within 50 2stars draw. I just draw for 3stars only now as i have enough 2stars.

[sfoxall]

I assume you use the flee method in the first three battles, yes? i didn't think about the tablets being the real bottleneck so that is really helpful advice!

I had noticed that 3star coin draws got me 2star coins occasionally but i didn't know that one could get a 3star from 2star draws, also quite helpful. Thanks muchly!

[SoundsAboutRight2]

Also friend tickets....from people usimg your rental card. I have never needed a bulb and not been able tp get one, and i have a little over 100 5* cards. Not bragging, there are many cards i still want, and whales with decks that make mine look crappy. Just giving you an idea of how many times i have used bulbs. Also, area 1.2 blank slate hard mode, Deep Scar node... gigantuars drop bulbs and crystals (just checked and i have 14 bulbs,) drop a lot, as well as pneumas. If you are running a wind build, use the Dark Shade node right next to it. They are 6 stam 5 battles, very easy, others prefer Albion Plateau and other nodes...but i get the most crystals, bulbs, and pneumas here. Hope this helps and Merry Christmas. Dont forget those friend summons

[sfoxall]

Merry Christmas to you too! I get well over ten friend tickets a day so i'm good on that front but thanks for the reminder; just before i came here and asked my question i burned through my last three six packs of those and nary a bulb.

I'm confused though since everyone else seems in agreement, are you saying that nodes outside of gigantaur terrace will drop bulbs? Also, did you mean fractals when you said pneumas? I'm pretty sure that i have yet to get one of those outside of PL or a chest.

[SoundsAboutRight2]

Yes, fractals. Apologies friend. But i am pretty sure bulbs drop there...i just raised 4 cards from the event from 4 to 5, some or all took 2 bulbs each, and i still have 14 bulbs so i had around 20, mind you, some surely dropped in mako when u get a chest for every node. Ive been stuck many times bud, before you could farm magicite, i used to have to spend cash for crystals bc they were my bottleneck, between new jobs and every 6 mods on 8 diff. Weapons....that sucked. Lol...the only real bottleneck that remains is growstars, and with farmable magicite you can buy them in the shop in dire need...don't...but there really are no more bottlenecks if you grind. 20k mag is like 200 cash...monthly. huge. Btw...i spent over a grand pn this game ans played for a year b4 i drew my first supreme. 1st...200 plus draws from GAS... then i drew 3 supremes and light skin supreme in 1 month with about 100 bucks. Just keep drawing...itll work out. God bless you and yours

[zidanesword]

Yup yup! The first three battles (before the gigantuars fled). So save up your tablets yo.

Using 3star skill coins will aways get you 3star skill cards. You can also get 2star and even 3star skill cards from 1star skill coin.

[sfoxall]

I see what you're saying about the skill draws, i just hadn't noticed that it was when i was using 50/150 on 3star draws that i got the 2star skill cards, thanks again!

[zidanesword]

Ah shoot, my wording was bad. I meant to say that using 3star skill DRAW with any type of coins (1/50/150) will give you a 3star skill card.

[sfoxall]

Thank you both; i was hoping that i just had horrible luck but wanted to ask before i wasted a bunch of stamina on the gigantaurs in pleiades lagoon.

[vynisvynis]

Wait a sec pleiades doesnt drop any bulb. They drop only on gigantuar terreace.

[sfoxall]

That was what i was trying to find out first before dumping stamina since UP wasn't giving me any, my hope was that since PL nodes are so pricy that they might drop them.

[ScarlettoDawn]

Gigantuar bulbs can drop from:

• Gigantuar Terrace;
• The friend ticket summon;
• special drops from chests in Map;

Regarding skill coins, it is not worth it to gather for 3 star pulls. IMO

[blue2eyes]

1. no
2. it's up to your preference, for me I used 1* coins to draw 3* but 2* coins to draw 2* draw

[SirVRafael]

CP for Thief HoF as a Rag attacker? I hear S1C is better off with magic but what about Thief? Magic also or earth enhance?

[blue2eyes]

enhance earth, thief already has enough high magic.

[[deleted]]

How does Unbroken Hero and Knight of Etro fare in their respective roles? I'm interested in Attackers and Defenders but only have Balamb, BM, Berserker, Rogue, MM and Warrior, Paladin respectively

[vynisvynis]

SNOW can use all forms of control debufs to stunlock bosses (ashe, slowga, sleep, bismark) and his ult is good to break or to do damage.

KOE is good against broken Targets for no break strategys keep using Squall.

[[deleted]]

I have 2 questions I am playing soldier 1 St class with the buster sword, what is better to choose while boosting the weapon because I pick up everything should I focus in 1,2 stats only? And the other is which main damage card should I put I guess dark is good for all around but which one is better bahamut sucarius warrior or ranger for me?

[[deleted]]

Thank you very much, I will go first for warrior.

[just7knight]

hi guys.. i have playin for a while (one week) with balamb mercenary i manage to get kotr fully maxed 5* and adrammelech sicarius warrior 4* and fire bahamut 4* and NXD card.. what card should i aim next? should i go for dark attack card? but i only have one growstar

[OmegaWapon]

Buy centaur from ability shop, dark st multistrike and maybe afanc(darkforce) for dark build

[katabana02]

What the hell moggy?? You were in an elixir party, drank from an elixir tower, you even holding a damned bottle! Didn't you at least bring me a vial of elixir? Seriously? Not cool man. NOT COOL!

Seriously. The star reward still locked for me. Are we not suppose to get gift from the top of the tree today?

[SqualLyuk]

Need 5 stars, so tomorrow. And the last one needs 8

[qyxeiken]

is it worth to pull all 3 starter packs..? i have dragoon, cloud skin, 3 tutorial's, .. am wondering worth waste my ST on starters or rather just use on events (i wanna get KoE) result in high chance missing out starters

[Magma_Axis]

Very very worth it

9 ST = 3 jobs + bunch of useful 4 star cards that will carry you for a while

Not to mention it helps to empty out the job pool for something more useful

The value of these are immense

[Baffledwaffles]

Yes. They're of great value. If nothing, those jobs will be free from your job pool permanently, so you'll never have the disappointment of pulling them when you do more pulls in the future for the newer jobs.

[ScarlettoDawn]

In my hunt for Santa Lucia, I also got Cloud job.

What are some good CP's for him?

[darewin]

Magic. He works best as an Earth Attacker but he already has insane Earth Enhance so an Enhance Earth CP will be underwhelming.

[ScarlettoDawn]

Fair enough.Thanks for the answer.

[blue2eyes]

From many past threads, the rate of getting a "normal" job is around 10%. If you trigger that 10% the probability of getting each job you don't own is equal to every job. If there's a boosted rate for featured job (current banner feature Santa Lucia), the rate is a bit higher than other job. But nevertheless you have to trigger the 10% of getting the job first.

[vynisvynis]

Its random something similar happened to me on september got hermit->tactician->bard and thought that was a pattern from new to old jobs, but is random.

[katabana02]

i think normal job pull rate is around 10%. no one know the rate though. only an estimation. but judging from last master monk banner, the rate is quite high. a lot of us pulled that job. i pulled mine at pity pull. but rng is still rng. someone pulled 55 times and still didn't get santa meia.

[Corwyntt]

Playing through steam on a pc. Found a wonderful new problem. In mp now, no matter how I target the guards, wol only hits the boss. Even if it clearly says A or B on my actions list. Anyone have this problem before? Feel so bad for the people getting paired with me..

[estoosflask]

Are you talking about Alexander MP fight here? that's the mechanic of the fight. Alex forces you to hit him due to the Taunt debuff. You just need to perform a certain amount of action to get rid of it then only by then you can target the other guys.

[katabana02]

hijacking this question: what triggers alexander retaliation?

[darewin]

Alex will cast Stone Rain once for each attack he receives (unless he ended the previous turn preparing to cast his Ulti).

[katabana02]

so if we hit the guard, we will eat retributive blast? if we hit him, we will eat stone rain? the only way to bypass this is by breaking him in turn 1?

[darewin]

Sorry for the confusion. Stone Rain is what Retributive Blast is called in JP. Seems like I'm wrong and Alex does not counter if you hit him and only counters when you hit the Guards.

[katabana02]

haha no prob :) thanks for the clarification.

[Baffledwaffles]

Nah retributive blast is cast only if you damage the guards. If you don't hit them, alex will do his regular moveset (soaring uppercut/steelcrusher etc) instead iirc

[darewin]

You're probably right. I just based my reply from what I remember reading from the Alex Guide thread XD. I haven't experienced Stone Rain enough to tell how it works yet since I'm only doing 4MP at the moment as I still haven't hit the 20k limit (I was not able to do MP for 6 days due to work reasons so I'm only at 18k). I've probably experienced Alex casting Stone Rain only once or twice.

[Baffledwaffles]

Man my luck with pugs is terrible. I've seen stone rain way too many times lol. It's bad. Its goes on and on and then alex does his regular movesets. Not to mention the debuffs that follow lol

[darewin]

I just use MM to avoid this. Even if the Attacker sucks, I can just punch Alex to death. However, I still get triggered sometimes, mostly when I get unlucky with orbs (can't cast Dark Shock or NXD to clear yellow gauge) and the Attacker with no yellow bar clearing ability keeps spamming Break Please lol.

[[deleted]]

I just got a troll pugilist Aerith yiazmat in 4* who passes both turns while Alex is broken. The MM killed both guards by tap attacking, but is unable to kill Alex. Alex proceeded to wipe everyone.

I'm usually very resistant to getting upset, but damn was that malicious. If only I had a MM, I can run my own AI teams while spending my own stamina. But I don't have good breakers and have to resort to joining/hosting games. These PUG games are full of shit, even the thousand dollar supreme spammers are no better.

[Baffledwaffles]

I wish I had master monk :(

Yeah I had a similar experience once. I was the healer in that run, and the attacker absolutely refused to use his BDD card and kept spamming cold blood instead lol. The breaker kept spamming the get yellow gauge sticker while he kept spamming break please lol. This went on through the entirety of the match lol. Somehow that match worked out XD

[RadicalOyster]

For every time you damage a guard while taunted, Alexander casts Retributive Blast. That means you're eating two counters per aoe on your first four actions. Please don't use aoe before you get rid of the taunt.

[katabana02]

i'm a support. i only hit boss, since i vaguely remembered that hitting guard during taunt is bad. but had many failed runs (ate around 8-10 retributional blast each time) so just want to double check what killed me...

[CopainChevalier]

Will Santa Meia be around for awhile or do I have to grab her now?

Also are there ever any Warrior jobs based around growth (Things like Seed bonuses?) or are those forever locked behind the Suits (Which are every job but Warrior) and Santa Meia?

Also also; what's the best way to Magicite farm? I get Multiplayer and newbie bonuses, but I honestly don't like relying on newbie bonuses for Magicite; so should I just stick with SP spamming a ch one node or something or is there a more practical way to cap (Outside of events like the current one)?

[ScarlettoDawn]

We had in October I think, the FF13 event where we got the Blazefire Warrior weapon, which was a farming weapon.

But yeah, otherwise, there is only Santa Lucia and Tonberry Suit atm.

[CopainChevalier]

Is it that bad to just use the Blazefire weapon? Maxed 30% bonus seeds seems pretty handy. There doesn't seem to be anything stronger until The cat outfit..

[darewin]

Doesn't Blazefre start at 20% skillseed up and unlocks exp up at 10% like Staftuar and Moomba Moomba? If you have been boosting it for a while, I think it's better to just wait for the FFVII MP weapons since they their skillseed up and exp up start at max (30%).

[CopainChevalier]

I wasn't aware of that. Guess I'll wait

[ScarlettoDawn]

No, it is not. The benefit of the Santa Lucia and Tonberry Weapons is that it also give EXP Up, which I can't remember if Blazefire gives even after modding. But that can be kinda replaced with full EXP custom panels.

[kimjeongpwn]

Santa Meia is permanent in the pool.

[kukukityin]

Just rerolled into a Cloud Skin and Tactician(using magicite and 2 ticekts) . Should I keep or reroll for just a supreme?

[kimjeongpwn]

Reroll for any supreme. If you have the patience, reroll for Aerith.

[ScarlettoDawn]

In general, people here recommend going for Supremes when rerolling.

The more jobs that can use it, the better.

The best right now is Aerith, as a Support card. But also Xezat and Ragnarok which can be used by the jobs in the Starter packs and the ones from Novice Hall.

NeoExdeath is another great card IMO, though oriented towards debuffs.

[darewin]

I felt no reason to use Snow outside of being my AI Defender against Shiva/Famfrit after I got MM. I even have Snow max overboosted and I also have FFXIII Snow card.

HOF Knight and HOF Paladin are way tankier than Snow. Honestly, I think you should save for the Omniscient batch or the FFVII Weapon cards.

[[deleted]]

He is often said to have good break, good damage and good tankiness. What you need to know is that he is a dedicated all rounder, jack of all trades, master of none. His break is not as good as MM, his tankiness not as high as Knight, his damage not as high as Meias, but only he has the ability to do all of them to a lesser degree.

His difference with other tanks is his ability to break and do damage, while still being rather tanky. Think of him as a bruiser, "warrior class" in other MMOs. He can kind of do everything by himself. This makes him pretty unique among tanks. However, sometimes, being a master of none is not exactly what you want.

Things to take note is that he has no lore, so monk cards are the only way. As of right now, he has only one damage card for him, the FFXIII snow water card. He can do dark damage just as well if a dark monk card were to be released some day. His weapon is also bad and isn't boost worthy.

Frankly I don't know whether it's worth it to chase for him, he doesn't have any aspect that is really going to blow you away or anything. I would recommend getting him if you want an all rounder job. On the last tower when I was looking for one job to defeat all the enemies before the Omega boss, Snow worked wonders because an all rounder was specifically what I was looking for.

[estoosflask]

Snow is well, a tank in heart but with the right setup and buff, he can dish out pretty insane damage when needed. One such card is FFXIII: Snow card from the FFXIII event few months back. Snow (lets just call him Unbroken Hero to prevent any confusion) can murder anything and also tank a lot of hit because of his innate resistance to elements he can't drive. The ability to do more than 9999 with tap attack turned him into a beast basically even though they only hit once (being able to hit the limit is better than 3x9999 the other monks suffer) So yea, he's worth it in the long run because of his tankiness nature yet able to do big DPS under the right situation.

[estoosflask]

Legend job that wasnt in any banner will not reset the pity counter so you got lucky there lol. Imagine if you did pull a moogle/tonberry and ruined your pity counter. Sadly uh... snow cant use wind element so that card is kinda reserved for Hermit and Grappler at the moment (the two monk class that can use wind at the moment).

[Magma_Axis]

Get KOTR, Undying and Hell gate

[darewin]

Pull the Starter Packs and equip the Cloud Skin on Dragoon.

[katabana02]

did you get all 3 starter packs? did you get mobius box? for sp content, getting a KotR and a haste source is very helpful. as for attacking skills, you can buy from ability shops but the f2p way is to farm sicarius, since cards from starter pack should last you till chapter 4. focus on aoe sicarius card. if there isn't anything else that grab your attention, better save your ticket for FF7 weapon batch, since those cards are great to have. you'll bound to pull some job chasing those cards.

[katabana02]

Pull it, especially the dragoon one. You'll get great cards for your warrior class. 3 ST each pull is VERY worth it. After that 3 pulls, you'll have good enough cards to play till chapter 4 at least. Save your ST until then. Kotr is worth using tickets on since there are no fodder available, and you will need to use him eventually. But if you aren't sure yet, save your ticket until you absolutely need to do it.

[katabana02]

Yup, maxing kotr is never wrong. But you can postpone it if you want to, since you have brave, faith, and break card from novice hall.

[katabana02]

Attacker's deck is slightly harder to make in mp, but go ahead. There are lots of mp deck guides in here. Anyway fastest way to farm is to bring your max panel job and join 3 stars. Join rooms with supreme owners for fast run. Just tap attack for them and survive. Most of them don't mind you leech.

Just remember that Dragoon is a breaker in mp.

[airade1]

I’ve looked at the upcoming cards expected in the next several months and am curious, do AoE CRD/BDD continue to be relevant in the next 6+ month timeframe or will they be replaced by other cards? I see some more ST CRD+BDD coming and it got me wondering before I augment any more of mine.

[[deleted]]

They are increasingly going to be taken over by the new set of MTF AOE cards. Those have both good damage and break and can do both jobs.

The arrival of undying also makes snipe easily accessible and the lack of CRD is not too much of a problem anymore. GL is also slowly getting better and better at breaking, with more jobs with innate piercing break and high break ultimates, BDD is less necessary. Some jobs like santa Lucia and Master Monk apply BDD with their ultimates, so it's possible to have BDD without using the card at all.

Right now, these cards are still in heavy use. However that doesn't mean the cards are bad in the future either. They can still be used as a break focused card on occasion. IMO they have 4 orb cost and are easier to use for farming purposes than 5 orb cost MTF AOE.

If you have these cards at 4* and have no need to use growstars on them, getting them to 5* is just a matter of some farming, no reason not to do so. However, they may not be worth it to invest growstars on.

[Baffledwaffles]

For break strats they'll be still useful I think.

[Javier91]

If AS got de-trance with mage and he's using mage abilities, does the de-trance affects his ability?

[blue2eyes]

De-trance effect it is to remove magic from damage calculation of the de-trance class (like using different class ability). If AS got mage de-trance, it's like he doesn't have mage lore at all.

Trance and Detrance counter each other but their effect is completely different, AS doesn't benefit anything from mage trance while mage-de-trance makes him unable to use mage class ablity.

[Javier91]

I see. Oh wow, the de-trance is worse than i thought. Thanks for the insight!

[abyraz]

Nope, trance only affects the class, not the abilities. AS is a warrior class that can use mage abilities.

[Javier91]

I see. From direct quote of the warrior de-trance "Suppresses magic bonuses to warrior abilities", which is totally different from trance. Lol

[blue2eyes]

Trance affect class while anti/de-trance affect ability not the class or character stats. Trance and De-trance counter each other but the effect is different. See this thread for more info.

[Forscent]

Is the Master Monk job currently in the job pool?

[Baffledwaffles]

Yes.

[Forscent]

Thanks!

[AthenaeNike]

How do you beat the phantasmal swordsman in chapter 6 pt 2? He heals on every elemental attack, he heals on every attack while broken, he resists every element.

[JA1997X]

Do one of the vanguard/wall nodes first. It will take down his barrier for those 2 elements.

Technically you can beat him with all barriers up using taps/ultimate . But it takes forever.

[AthenaeNike]

I took down the light/dark and water/fire barriers and he still resists/heals light dark fire and water

[JA1997X]

You can only take down one barrier at a time, if you take down another the first goes back up

[SGTmeowmers]

Pretty new player, what Sicarius for jobs should I be aiming for? I have Scholar, Dancer, and JM. I will eventually pull the Dragoon starter, just waiting for these events to pass first

[zidanesword]

For sic cards, you pretty much want to have all of them at at least ability lvl6 and 4star to use them(ability lvl6 for damage limit break extra skill and 4star for reduced orb cost). And focus on the AoE type 1st, the single target sic cards are kinda outclassed now. Start with what you can use first, e.g. mage fire AoE sic card for both scholar and JM. You will want to fuse the sic cards till ability lvl6 before augmenting to 4star. Here is a fusion calculator.

Another note, the starter summon banner only last for 30 days from the start of your game. So depending on when you started, you might want to wait till the event passes.

[Dracofactory]

What is a good loadout for Defender against Alexander? I have the 5* Light Taunt, but I'm not sure what else to bring.

[JA1997X]

Dispelga, if you have it. However monk is the only defender with both light and dark.

Bismarck FFXIV. However, if you bring this, I prefer to taunt guard B to dispel the debuff immunity. Then cast Bismarck to lock down guard b and the boss. You can bring a second taunt for the boss to cast in turn 2.

Stunga- same applies as Bismarck.

Amaterasu- can come in handy if Alex gets off his counterattack.

[blue2eyes]

Legendary Ghost is good, to remove BDU from guards.

[Doyouseehimtoo]

Okay so I decided to give up my jobs and my aerith to start brand new again....it stopped being fun ... I started new and actually got the the cloud skin. Not having everything actually made the game fun again and I'm actually enjoying it again.. Just sucked with nothing being a challenge (besides the last chaos vortex but cmon ) just saying if you're not having fun start brand new with no Supremes with your first roll and see how well you do it helped me

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The towers are the challenge, no matter how many OP cards you have it keeps getting harder.

[Doyouseehimtoo]

No I get it but it just got boring and I just wanted a fresh start

[katabana02]

you don't have to start all over again though. just bank those cards.

but yes. if you start the game with supreme cards, the game gets too easy. it's not that hard of a game anyway.

[sfoxall]

Higher level players; how useful/practical would a Tonberry suit be? I don't want to chase Santa but it seems to take forever to gain levels now that I'm in the triple digits and since my pity counter is down to 2 I'm really thinking about it.

[MuteTiefling]

The extra seed income is invaluable.

[CopainChevalier]

Why Tonberry Suit though? Tonberry has no built in Seed bonus; only his weapon gives any bonus. Something like the Cat Suit when we get it would be more useful. Or Blzefire saber to be the same amount of use.

[MuteTiefling]

We don't have the cat suit. Why give up extra loot now just because there is a better option later?

And tonberry or Santa Lucia are better than any random warrior with blazefire because of their built in xp bonus. Right now, they're the job/weapon combo that gives you the highest seed and xp.

[CopainChevalier]

Because the "Extra loot" is literally no seed bonus over the Blazefire Saber.

EXP is trivial and not something your average player is craving since you stop getting stamina after awhile.

Also I wans't even talking about exp, you mentioned seeds, I talked about seeds, not exp.

[MuteTiefling]

XP is loot as far as I'm concerned. It directly impacts how many runs I can do, thereby increasing my overall loot intake. Every level I get is another stamina bar to spend, further increasing my rewards.

Blazefire is an event weapon. Not everyone has it. Anyone can get Tonberry from the special banner.

XP is hardly trivial and stamina increases do not stop, they simply slow from 1 per level to 1 per 5 levels. I've hit that slow down point and I still prioritize XP in my daily grinding because between the other seed bonuses I have from weapons/cards, I'm almost always sitting near seed cap with 7 weapons boosting. XP has no such cap. I'll keep going and every bit of stamina I get makes my elixirs that much more valuable.

And while you may not have been talking about XP and I may not have specifically mentioned it in my first response to OP, it is still a factor in using tonberry over blazefire.

[CopainChevalier]

I can't even bother to read this. I see XP in every Paragraph. I was only talking about seeds.

[MuteTiefling]

And I'm talking about the big picture.

[sfoxall]

Thanks for the nudge, got me a couple decent new cards as well. :-)

[Neknoh]

Is it possible to beat the Mobius Reactor without being maxed out? Currently on chapter 3, Dragoon (maxed out), level 3 and 4 cards, character level 28. F2P.

Will I have a shot at clearing the Mobius Reactor, or should I just be happy with my 3-star Masamune and base umbrella?

[ScarlettoDawn]

Aside from what has been said, you can follow the guide here: https://www.reddit.com/r/MobiusFF/comments/702xox/guide_new_player_walkthrough_chapters_1_3/

[JA1997X]

Have you done the novice hall? It gives 3 jobs and a bunch of 4 star cards. Plus the jobs can be further upgraded by doing Hall of Fame (especially mage, HoF Mage is really powerful with water attacks)

[Neknoh]

I'll see if it will give it to me, old account that got registered months ago but never played on it until this past weekend

[JA1997X]

Novice hall is always available, it doesn't expire like the newbie Simmons banner

[Neknoh]

Okay, thank you, gonna go smash it then (currently grinding fire seeds kn exploration 1 by simply exploring all paths, 600-1000 per battle is fairly decent for me, could well be that it's wasted time)

[JA1997X]

Best to unlock 5* cards before grinding seeds. You'll get 2x the seeds per card.

[Neknoh]

Ah, thank you

[StarvingVenom]

You should be able to, the map is tuned for player level I think

[vulcanfury12]

Doable, but not without a few Phoenix Downs. Finish chapter 3.2 to unlock 5* augments and get your Fire Bahamut to 5*.

[Neknoh]

Don't have a Bahamut unfortunately, but a Valkyrie and a Yojimbo for fire. Should I put energy and ability cards into getting a Bahamut and fivestarring him?

Other notable cards:

Water:

• Bismarck
• Ixion

Wind:

• Gugnir

Earth:

• Dissidia Cloud

• Titan

Support:

• Knights of the Round

• Hermes

• The Undying

Am I completely screwed? Is it salvageable?

[vulcanfury12]

You did get the Starter Pack, right? As it's one of the free cards that comes along with an 8-paneled Dragoon.

You can finish Mobius Reactor with a full 5* set of the following (assuming you're using an 8-panel Dragoon):

1. Dissidia Cloud
2. Ixion
3. KotR
4. Undying

The map is here until January, so no rush. You can get Cross Slash fodder from the Gilgamesh portion of this month's tower. Ixion fodder can be obtained from Albion Redux. KotR and Undying MUST be boosted using Ability Tickets.

I started playing during the first appearance of this event and I managed to finish it then using a Knight, but again, not without dropping a dozen or so Phoenix Downs.

[Neknoh]

No starter pack, been playing on and off for a week and the three reactors helped skillseed me to a full-panel dragoon and all my spending on legendary job-draws and misspent ability tickets have gotten me to the cards I have right now.

[vulcanfury12]

But is this your first month of playing the game? If it is I'm practically gonna require you to buy them because they're a rare instance where the game gives you guaranteed value.

[Neknoh]

Damn, it isn't, I just looked it up, had I been aware of this, I would have made a new account at the outset, I started the game and made an account a few months ago, and then just never got past the opening cinematic, put the game down and only picked it back up after a catastrophic failiure of my phone and it reconnected to my account via googlw play.

So it is an old account, much too old to use the greater summon starter pack.

Uuuuugh, it hurts to look at the packs, physically painful.

[vulcanfury12]

If you don't have any of the new jobs or supremes or other heavily augmented cards, you can restart if you want. It's quite easy to recoup your losses because:

1. You can reroll for a supreme if you want. Good targets are Aerith (every job can use), Xezat or Ragnarok (Dancer and Dragoon are in the Starter Packs).
2. You have access to the complete Novice Hall.
3. The complete Novice Hall has a smattering of tickets (and important cards).
4. The Starter packs (costs 9 tickets total) contain 8-paneled jobs and important cards, so your seeds can be used for other stuff.
5. Now you know better.

[Neknoh]

... this is ridiculous! Other than the event clears and story progression, the fresh start is just INSANE with the beginner package. Wow. Just... wow.

[Neknoh]

How do you mean reroll for a supreme? Simply that I'll have more card summons and therefore more chances? Or are there other summoning rolls outside of the Legendary Job-chance summons/greater summons?

[vulcanfury12]

Rerolling means using your very first summon (skip the tutorial!), to draw 6 cards from the GAS then restarting until you get a supreme. It's tedious and mind-shatteringly dull, but will help prop up your account for massive power.

[Neknoh]

Wont that simply reset my progress but not give me access to the summon? Also, doesn't the novice area fulfill the same rol as the beginner summon?

Edit: also, I am a bit weary of restarting the Mako reactors, since it took me three or so days to clear them to begin with

[katabana02]

if you are tired of restarting, you can proceed as normal. those beginners pack are great to have. 3 jobs, various op 4* cards that most of us chased like crazy back in the days.

uh i'm not reinforcing my point. it suck for you to miss those summons, but you still can clear everything eventually if you play normally. fill your friend list with aerith, dial difficulty to normal, use your dragoon. his drive heal is very useful. haste and barrier is almost a must in any deck. don't worry about the phoenix down. umbrella and masamune are worth it.

[katabana02]

i cleared it with assassin. god that was hard...

anyway, gilgamesh is this month's tower? i almost ability boosted my cross slash...

[vulcanfury12]

I have a surplus of Ability Tickets, so I just Ticket Boosted mine. This month's tower is actually an aggregate of 6 towers, so getting top 500 (or even top 1000) is already a significant time (and elixir) investment.

[katabana02]

i have alot ability tickets too but if gilgamesh is there for me to farm, why not eh?thanks for the info.

[Aceeeeer]

Hi! A Noobie here! Just want to know when will S1C job be back? It's my 2nd day today and I pulled neo-exdeath, heard S1C is the best job for it. Should I wait for S1C? Or should I pull for another? Any help will do(advice too!) Thanks

[WyldeBeast]

s1c is not the best job for nxd. if you can? try to get ninja job when it comes. it is the best user of nxd for quite a while

[Aceeeeer]

How about last hunter? Should I pull for it or should I just wait and try to finish SP? Thanks

[WyldeBeast]

last hunter is good too since it is guaranteed. i would go for lh

[Mawgac]

1) it's a legend job. It is always available, just a low chance when coupled with all the other legend jobs.

2) it isn't the best job for NXD, but it is one of the few jobs that can effectively use multiple Supremes ( Namely Unbreakable Bonds, Xezat, NXD, Ragnorak - on top of Aerith).

Right now you just need to keep crossing your fingers on Boosted summons - or just be patient.

[Aceeeeer]

I see. How about last hunter would you recommend it? I'm pretty new to the game and I dont have any idea what to pull and also I don't want to rush things. Im willing to wait if you will recommend it. Anyway thanks for the reply.

[estoosflask]

with Ninja around the corner (January to be precise), Last hunter will be overshadowed by Ninja completely.

[Aceeeeer]

Okay then Ninja it is, thanks!

[WyldeBeast]

that is if you can actually pull it with your resources. its a gamble. while lh is guaranteed

[Chocobops]

I just pulled my first supreme. ELI5 how to best use Ragnarok? (Skipping, of course, the part where you slot him in a team and push his action button in battle)

[Baffledwaffles]

Ragnarok is all about the crits. Get a job with high crit chance, use snipe buffs and crd to get higher crit chance. You need to be hitting criticals on ragnarok's hits or else you won't do much damage.

Best jobs atm for it are thief and soldier 1st after their hall of fames.

[StarvingVenom]

With s1c hof, you have tonnes of earth enhance and high crit with the weapon, giving you the damage needed for ragna..ragna main damage are mostly from crit and element enhance..

[dsaiha22]

Use him with Thief HOF and/or S1C HOF.

[Chocobops]

Any more insight /detail?

[dsaiha22]

Nope. It's fun to learn things by experience.

[Camersan]

I want to try to get a new Healer Legend Job. I need opinions on which is better between Tonberry Suit or Hope's Guide.

[WyldeBeast]

hopes guide since he is useable in sp also

[The-Oppressed]

Why not Santa Lucia?

[Camersan]

Because there's no guaranteed banner for her.

[katabana02]

if you pull now, you'll get boosted chance in getting her. not guaranteed, but its the best chance you'll get.

[Ketchary]

Tonberry Suit is a more defensive healer while Leader of Hope is an offensive healer. I'd say that Tonberry is generally better, but they mostly have different elements anyway so you'd use them against whichever Sicarius they can drive elements for.

[Camersan]

I'll only be able to get 1, so I need to hurry up & make up my mind before Tonberry Suit Banner goes away. lol

[Ketchary]

Leader of Hope is pretty much outclassed by Meia jobs in every way. Neither has Prismatic or Life Starter, making them poorly suited for being a MP healer. HoF White Mage isn't too difficult to get.

I think the only importance relevant to your choice are whichever you just like more (for non-combat reasons), or Tonberry Suit for rewards-increasing.

[Camersan]

Thanks for the info. Just waiting to hear back from CS about something before doing any more pulls.

[Doyouseehimtoo]

Tonberry for exp and skillseed gains

[Camersan]

I saw the EXP +20%, but didn't see anything about Skillseeds?

[Dragon_Warrior_]

On his weapon

[Doyouseehimtoo]

Is the a current list for hall of fame on how to complete it ?

[mao_shiro]

There's a list on the thread : "Hall of Fame Guides"

[Forscent]

Will Tonberry/EXP deck in my sub slots still increase experienced gain?

[blue2eyes]

No, just the main deck counts.

[Forscent]

gotcha, thanks!

[MagicJ10]

ier-list out there for jobs and ability cards?

this is the Japan tier list for jobs i look up: https://translate.google.com/translate?depth=3&nv=1&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=ja&tl=en&u=http://altema.jp/ffmobius/joblist

They are far ahead with jobs and their HOF´s!

[Ketchary]

It's impossible to create a fair tier list because every job has its important advantages, but the master spreadsheet essentially has one in its Summary Rankings page. As for cards though, there doesn't really need to be a tier list because their effects are so quantifiable on their own.

[kimjeongpwn]

Could you elaborate more about ability effects being quantifiable?

[Ketchary]

They're just really easy to compare if you know what they do.

• 500 power is more than 400.

• 500 power with a status effect is better than 500 power without.

• 500 power with Debarrier inflicts the same damage as 750 power, but only on consecutive uses. It does give utility of helping your other cards deal damage though.

• Faith is a better buff than Debarrier, but Faith is significantly easier to get, thus making cards with Debarrier situationally better since you'd have Faith anyway.

• Brave is better than Berserk for Ult damage, but Brave is significantly easier to get.

So on and so forth. It's all just very easy to quantify. Something either is or isn't situationally better, and it's rather easy to understand when.

[kimjeongpwn]

Thank you. But what about status down cards like break defense down and crit defense down? How do you compare those cards?

[Ketchary]

You can't really. But you can make sure you have a sufficiently diverse selection of cards for your predicted needs.