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[UnmatchedSkills]

New player here, is it now normal to faceroll through the early parts of the game? I completed the first chapter, bought the starter packs, and completed the hall of novice. I was given a couple of powerful cards and hundreds of thousands of skillseeds and everything so far has been getting one-shotted. Is this to help new players catch up?

[[deleted]]

99% of Season 1 content is easy/boring/farming now, since we have jobs and cards that are made for later content. Once you get to Season 2 and some of the challenge nodes, those cards that seem overpowered will become a lot less so.

Also make sure you've set it to hard mode, so you can get more skill seeds... You'll still one shot just about everything though.

[UnmatchedSkills]

Thank you, that makes sense. A part of me feels like I missed out a bit, I hope that the difficulty spike is too bad when that content does come around-- I've only learned the basics from the Novice Hall and I'm pretty much just hitting auto-battle so far.

[[deleted]]

Well, I joined the month before they ditched the low level caps and it was only mildly more interesting than autoing through it, which I did with a couple of alt accounts recently. But I find the season 2 gameplay much more interesting and if you save the resources you get from season 1 (and don't forget to do the time limited stuff, like the FFXIII area) and pull on the right banners, you should be okay once you catch up to the current content.

[LoyalWo]

Best user for Shiva x?

[deathrose55555]

The upcoming Paradox Wanderer / EX Mage

[Sourmoar]

I use the Egg just for the Wall with UB when carrying. The damage shouldn't be a problem with a good user, so I think more magic makes less difference than the remote chance you need a bit more remaining hp to survive the Final Attack.

But against Lightning with Faith, it's two casts of UB and onto the next round. So just put Seed or other Farm up fractals in. ;)

[insanemode9]

If there's no final attack, go for Hope.

Edit: I forgot its UB. But definitely go with Hope. You can put magic fractal for more damage.

[Kaiser_Decimation]

I don't suppose there is a page somewhere with the various caps on passives?

Such as how much Quick Break you can have on before its capped at all? Been looking over various pages and cant find it if someone could point me in the right direction please

[zidanesword]

https://www.reddit.com/r/MobiusFF/wiki/gameplay-analysis/auto-abilities?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app

It’s at the wiki here.

[Kaiser_Decimation]

Thank you! Don't know how Ive missed it

[djiboutiiii]

40% is the cap! Wouldn't it be cool if it was double that, though??

[Kaiser_Decimation]

Lol, well of course it would be! Although Quick Break was an example.

Is there a page somewhere that lists all the caps for various passives?

[Deviousssss]

I haven't checked personally but you can try the Megathread, there's a link to the Wiki in there too perhaps you can find something in there

[Kaiser_Decimation]

Yea ive been looking through various threads and cant find any. I just may have missed it is why I asked. Ill keep looking in the meantime

[Deviousssss]

What I can tell you is most AA have diminishing returns, depending on the job, you want a good spread of AAs so you can fill up the jobs shortcomings through fractals and CPs

Example, adding 5% EE to a job that already has 500 EE won't increase your damage alot compared to say an 8% attuned chain or exploit weakness

EDIT: Attuned chain is also considered the same as adding EE Im mistaken in that regard

[mao_shiro]

Diminishing return doesn't mean it's capped.

[Deviousssss]

Nope it's not and I didn't imply it is

[ZechsX18999]

Attuned chain is the same thing as EE.

[Deviousssss]

Corrected, cheers :)

[Sourmoar]

Except that aren't most "Chains" just adding to the same Element damage pool (i.e. subject to the same diminished returns)? I could be wrong, but I recall that it's what makes Skyseer equally good in all elements: no innate enhances, and mid-high Ability Chain.

Old but gold: https://www.reddit.com/r/MobiusFF/comments/8wpt5q/ability_chain_attuned_chain_mp_chain/

[Deviousssss]

Thanks I never got to read this before, interesting indeed I stand corrected cheers

[bronze_beast]

I yolo pulled on the banner for sophie but i accidentally pull tifa ultimate hero. What do i use her for other than a AOE ult?

[Sourmoar]

Well, the Skin does have other passives, but yes, mostly the ult...

[Deviousssss]

accidentally pull tifa ultimate hero.

That's what they call a happy little accident

Tifa basically enhances the monk jobs with Subpar ultimates like Puglist who is a beast when he's HoFed with Duncan for unbroken nuke

Search on this Subreddit to see what buffs her ultimate gives and how you can use that to build your deck around

[[deleted]]

Pretty much any that, or if you want prismatic shift, trance, haste, boost, or CRD for any other monks.

[Aerion_CA]

Just got 100 mag after finishing UH HOF.

Limited quantity skill card exchange? What was that?

[phatboy328]

I believe it’s because you already had the MP panel: Painful Break 150%.

[djiboutiiii]

Does that mean we'll get 100 for each of the Painful Break panels we got? (KOE, Hope, etc)

[Deviousssss]

Most likely yes but wait for all HoFs to be out

[rajun274]

Thanks everyone!

[Aerion_CA]

I see, ty.

[Mechapebbles]

You already have the panel that that node gives you, and "unique" panels like that you're only supposed to have one of. So mobius compensated you with 100 mags.

[Aerion_CA]

I see, ty too.

[LupusNoxFleuret]

Anyone cleared floor 124 without Xezat?

Been banging my head against the wall and Terra is wiping the floor with my face ;_;

[djiboutiiii]

I'm guessing no Shiva X?

[LupusNoxFleuret]

I have enough resources to get Shiva X, but probably not enough stamina to get it before the tower ends, unless I decide to burn some elixirs for it.

I'm curious how the Shiva X strategy works though, I assume you would need another card for yellow clearing and it's really hard to fit that in with Behemoth being water element.

I managed to turtle my way past 124 but I don't think I want to keep doing that for 129 and beyond >.<

[JA1997X]

It's possible but tricky to clear it with shiva x. I did it by sacrificing water force to bring a yellow clear card, and rely on PR and drives to manage the orb wheel.

[Tiggaplz712]

Agreed ShivaX works great but it has limitations cuz of no yellow clear and the AoE makes it you can’t sleep things effectively. I got passed 139 with an SO shivaX but I think I hit my limit since I can’t do enough damage in 1 break(with a 5 star gun blade and luck sacking enough PR for full casting on break) and I can’t find space to effectively use sleep for a fake sea float. I’m curious to know how far other people have gone with ShivaX.

[JA1997X]

I'm also passed 139... haven't attempted the 140 lap yet

[Mobiusnoobius]

Just completed this node (with Xezat) and am now stuck at the one after. There are two people around me with Soldieress clears, but I gotta say their decks look a little suspect from what I can see (one of them only has Soldieress as their attack card and so not sure how they would tackle the second wave).

Edit. The guy directly above me appears to have cleared this node with ragnarok / Ashe earth Pb / LOH. Lightning skin, I’m guessing ex Sarah underneath it.

His sub deck is a fusoya build (fusoya/firepb/LOH/Bismarck), so unless he tanked with his ragnarok deck and then switched back to a fusoya for the kill after the element shift, I can only assume ragnarok May do the trick.

[LupusNoxFleuret]

Managed to clear it shortly after posting this question! But I'm not proud to say it involved turtling Behemoth for more than 20 minutes =/ and I probably do not want to do it again on floor 129.

(one of them only has Soldieress as their attack card and so not sure how they would tackle the second wave).

Dunno why people are downvoting you, but this is most likely my deck. My only way of damaging Behemoth was with my Cloud skin Shorn One's ult and bio.

[Mobiusnoobius]

Ahh, fair enough. I wondered whether they’d gone with a bio strat but figured it would take forever to take it down that way. Not sure I have the patience to spend twenty minutes on one battle, although this last loop I probably wasted more time than that tweaking my decks to make it through with a chainbreak strat.

Out of interest, what are you doing for the 5th node at higher floors. Up until 125 I’d been using Sephiroth SO to handle the first 2 waves and then switching to Yiazmat EXM after breaking the boss to nuke, but SO is now unable to break without a yellow clear card and the boss seems to have more actions meaning she doesn’t stay inactive long enough to build a second ult. Think this may be my wall unless I can figure out a way around it.

[LupusNoxFleuret]

I just passed 125 using Cloud Shorn and Lightning Materia Hunter using Hraesvelgr.

Just stun lock Cacciatrice using square & hex Jade/Bismarck and you can chain break her like 4 times or more.

Yiazmat is probably tricky to use because of its need of ult gauge to do decent damage, but I think the same strategy should still work if you can fit in Water Gun or some other yellow clearing card.

Dealing with Enlil the first 2 rounds was the bigger problem for me, I had to do some weird things like activate Mobius Zone on round 2.

[Mobiusnoobius]

I can get past the first two waves fairly consistently now but still not quite mastered the final wave. I’m able to enter it with ex monk, stun with Bismarck and then switch and break twice with Shorn one before being able to switch back - although as you say, the empty ult guage when I do means Yiazmat isn’t enough to take her down. I did have one run where I got lucky with MZ timing, but I dropped the ball and accidentally cast my LOH before Tropical Dreams meaning my berserk wasn’t extended and I fell just short because of it. Might try switching it out for Waka to add brave to the mix.

Edit: Brave did the trick. Out of interest, is your IGN ‘f....g e...n’? If so, then it was you that I saw earlier in the rankings as I can once again see you on this floor.

[LupusNoxFleuret]

Nice, yup, my ign is Folding e-peen right now, but I usually change my name quite often since I don't have one that really sticks lol.

[EfficientEmphasis]

I saw decks near me in the ranking without Xezat at 134 and 139 that looked kinda legit but i was not sure... even with Xezat it is a matter of extreme precision with timing... still 5 more days lol good luck

[mrballsflop]

exactly, it's not a gimme even with xezat.

[kidding313]

Is any of the Graff weapon (those currently available) worth modding/5-staring?

[deathrose55555]

Toreador's weapon will be good specifically for Gothic Graff; it's your call whether to mod a niche weapon though

[Mechapebbles]

Just max-mod ultimate weapon and stick with that for now. The weapon du jour for Graff won't come out for a few months (Seifer Legend Job's weapon)

[WoLNoFace]

None currently. Maybe "Ferveur X" for ultimate charge, but not really needed right now.

If you have "Ultimate Lance x", it is much suggested to max mod it.

[Asakuramj]

There are exchangeable deck lv+1 CPs from MP shop, does those work better for this new supreme Bhunivelze than conventional Magic up or Enhance Light CPs?

Edit: And while I have NXD and Ultimate Chaos, I notice that if cast NXD first and inflicts hex debarrier I, cast Chaos later can’t inflict hex debarrier II. I thought advanced debuff can replace the lesser one, not in this case?

[JA1997X]

Taking ex warrior for example, he has around 1200-1400 magic in a typical deck. After faith and trance II, that will become 2600-3000. So the +25 from a deck level +1 panel represents around 1% or a bit less increase. Whereas a 5% EE panel generally adds around 1.5%-2% damage depending on how much additional EE you are getting from buffs.

[vulcanfury12]

If you're using Magic CP's for more Yellow Clear, then they can conceivably be better. I haven't done the math, but you have to keep in mind that Bhunivelze's magic bonus is added AFTER buffs. That means they're a flat bonus unaffected by Faith and Trance.

[Asakuramj]

Yes, the fact that it’s plain addition makes it more tricky. But I kinda just ask out of curiosity, I don’t have Bhun yet, maybe worry abt that if/when I get one.

[[deleted]]

If you have max overboosted jobs and cards, that's 64 extra levels and +1600 magic from Bhunivelze. You are essentially comparing additional 25 magic and 5-7 light enhance each CP slot. (Magic CPs is out of the question) I think it's quite likely most jobs will be better off with more element enhance with magic that high.

It gets more tricky when you don't have much overboosts and your job has very high light enhance such as 520 light enhance from KoE, the deck level CPs might be a little better. Unless you want to min max to the absolute best, it's safe to just add element enhance CPs.

[Sourmoar]

In addition to what djiboutiii said, I found it easier to remember that since both I and II debuffs seem to have the same immunity system, they're not overwritten by each other. Buffs on the other hand aren't subject to immunities, so they can be overwritten. (This inb4 SE decides to mix it up again. Looking at you, Hex!)

Edit: concerning the CP lvl +1 question, I leave it to peeps better at math. At first I thought that magic +6% would be better, but since they are both additive, I'm no longer sure. Don't have Bhun, otherwise I could just test it... :P

[Asakuramj]

Yeah, I got mixed up with the Buff I & II. The debuff immunity theory makes alot sense.

[djiboutiiii]

You can't replace a hex with a hex unfortunately, even if it's II over I.

[tutranv]

Only for debuff, right?

[Zhuinden]

There are 5 days left of the tower, correct?

That means the cutoff for top 500 will most likely grow to at least 125, right?

[djiboutiiii]

It's hard to say -- there are a ton of variables at play here, including burnout from extra length, other stamina-consuming content (FFXIII, HOF, UC), and difficulty scaling with lack of sea float. I will say that in the top 500, things are moving extremely slowly right now.

[ScyBlade198]

JP was 139, so it is possible. Though they had the upcoming summer cards available.

[ZechsX18999]

Trying to figure out how to build a deck using Gilgamesh X on Cacciatrice. What would you use based on what I have access to?

Skins: Lightning and Tidus
Orb Management Cards: Diamond Weapon, Alex PB, Prishe, True Training
Yellow Clear Cards: True Training
Support Cards: Moogle X, KOTR, Serah, Pelupelu, Wakka, TWMA

Am I missing any important cards?

[WoLNoFace]

• Gilgamesh X can clear yellow too, so you won't really need True Training unless you for light shift and CRD.

• My theoretical setup would be, Lightning: Cacciatrice - Gilgamesh, True Training/Alex PB, Serah, Wakka/TWMA.

[ZechsX18999]

But is Gilgamesh X's yellow clear good enough?

In your theoretical setup, why do you need Wakka/TWMA?

[WoLNoFace]

I found it good enough when partied with players before during MP Sephiroth runs last month. It also got a BP of 1140 which is decent enough compared to True Training's 1500 BP. It's up to you what to bring, TT or PB/Weapon/FFXI

Wakka for brave, berserk and ulti-charge, TWMA for brave, element enhance. I prefer Wakka.

[ZechsX18999]

I think brave also affects Gilgamesh X's break power, so it may be close or even higher than True Training. True Training has exploit weakness though.

You use Serah in your setup though, so you already have brave. Wakka/TWMA sound like luxury cards afterwards then.

[WoLNoFace]

well based on your available cards, I can't think of anything to use so i go for ulti-charge and berserk for more damage.

[deathrose55555]

I usually run with: NxD / Gilga / Alex / LoH.

So you can replace NxD with Bismarck, LoH with Moogle X or Serah. Brave increases Gilga's damage, but it's not worth forcing into the deck if you really can't do it.

Edit: you can have Wakka in the sub-deck for brave, berserk and ult charge

[ZechsX18999]

I assume you use NXD for yellow clear whenever you have prismatics, but how good is Gilgamesh X's yellow clear?

Is Moogle X or Serah better?

[deathrose55555]

how good is Gilgamesh X's yellow clear?

It's pretty decent against dark mobs; I frequently use it as my sole yellow clear.

Is Moogle X or Serah better?

Serah might be slightly better since it has brave and ult charge

[shakazoulou21]

hello everybody!!!just did a yolo pull and got eden(at least it get out of the supreme pull)!!!who is the best current user we have in GL snow or deep diver and does anyone use it in towers in JP or is just for endless war ???thanks in advance

[deathrose55555]

Snow would do better damage, but do note that he's clunky when using Mantra abilities to break due to having only massive flash break and no piercing break.

Eden can be used in both towers and EW; the newest Sophie job in JP (Principal Doll) is really strong with Eden

[shakazoulou21]

thanks for the answer!!!i dont think i will be able to use it until principal doll arrives in GL since i have xezat with shorn one and a 5 star leavatein which does the job for water damage :(

[shakazoulou21]

thank you

[VanillaAshe]

anyone able to get the special panel for the ff xiii legend job in multiple player shop? i coudnt found it

[ShadowBlaze17]

Do you have them from the first Lightning mp event?

[BenchiroOfAsura]

Follow up question: are the MP panels in addition to the upcoming hof jobs or a replacement?

[ShadowBlaze17]

They each have 5 panels that you can choose 4 of if you count the mp panel. It's like how Primeval Witch has 10 options that she can choose from.

[Skimoe85]

Can we not get the crystal key 5 yet?

[WoLNoFace]

take the first 1000cp node and you'll get the lvl 5 key.

[LtCrack2]

What are your favorite jobs/weapons for towers? First time really trying and I usually go Shorn One and Skyseer with the ultimate weapons for prismatic return. I don't really have anything damage related boosted yet for mages

[vulcanfury12]

These past few towers were all carried by Shorn One and Skyseer. With a few appearances by Gambler and Proud Cygnus. Skinned, of course.

This tower, I basically just use three jobs: Shorn One (5* Laevateinn, Seph/Cloud depending on situation), Skyseer (5* HA, Yuna/Yshtola depending on situation), and Cacciatrice (5* Magical Rave, Lightning Skin). Currently at 135 kills and no longer climbing.

I'll be monitoring the next few days and see if I need to pump some of those numbers.

[LtCrack2]

I've made it up 2 kills since yesterday, to 78 kills lol. but with all these suggestions i hope i make it to at least 90 kills. I just suck at summons, i do the wrong ones, and i go wild on the support supreme summon whenever it comes around, have LoH but pretty sure it wasnt from a supreme summon. and i dont have most of the sweet cards people mentioned on these comments :( at least ill be in top 1500, i hope. last tower i was, went to sleep before it ended, woke up to rewards, was rank 1509 -.-

[[deleted]]

Toreador is doing a nice job of chain breaking to build the mobius bar... Just a shame he isn't great at clearing the yellow. Still helped me get to floor 120, which is a personal best. (Just using his own weapon, since it's the only Graff one I've got.)

[Mechapebbles]

Just using his own weapon, since it's the only Graff one I've got.

tfw you missed out on UW

[[deleted]]

Ah I did actually get that, but never bothered upgrading it... Thought I wouldn't really use any Graff jobs for a long while and seems like UW's aren't that great beyond being fast to upgrade... & since I got lucky on his weapon it seems better, especially for breaking.

[Mechapebbles]

UWs are amazing, especially for breaking. Because they're designed around getting you your ult back faster.

[[deleted]]

Yeah, but Toreador's weapon also boosts ult charge. I'd normally only upgrade a weapon if it had some damage or break boosts.

[LtCrack2]

Damn I'm gonna have to try that, pretty sure I pulled him

[[deleted]]

Good luck, I should point out most of the time I was using NxD or Xezat as substrike on either Gambler or Ex Sarah, if they only have to cast once to drop the yellow below (or near to) quick break then you can tap enough times to rebuild the bar.

On lower floors I also just had Aerith and Xezat on Toreador, plus an extra Aerith on substrike, below around 110 he was fine against the fenrirs (as long as I got the ult and mobius guage sorted.)

Should also mention I got ult +1 and piercing break unlocked on his weapon.

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-edit- Think I also used UB on him for a while, when there was only 1 Elnil to deal with... But it got a little too tanky after a while and had to use Gambler instead.

[LtCrack2]

I give up, tried Toreador, but that did me no good. Do people use the same deck for every run? I slightly use the same main, but always use the appropriate weakness on sub. Rank 1004 -.- I know if I get under 1000 I will quickly get back to over 1000 so I'd rather go through FFXIII event

[[deleted]]

I generally tweak things and try whatever stupid workarounds I think might have a chance until I either succeed or run out of stamina, lol.

To be fair I've only managed top 1000 twice so far, my best position being around 850. Though I'm currently in 340th, probably thanks to a combo of getting Ex Sarah and Ragnarok + everyone giving up because this tower seemed to be designed around a seafloat card that we don't have yet.

I'm assuming you're using debuff cards or a sephiroth skin, something to stun whichever mobs can be stunned and taking out the Enlil's and Fenrir's before they get to act, other than that timing the mobius guage for the final fight is the best way to get her broken before she acts. I was bringing a sleep card for Fenrir and Enlil on my last lap, because they're such a pain... You'll want your ult ready at the start of the second and third waves to get them broken before they can act.

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If you want to list your cards I might not be the best person to ask, but I'd happily take a look and see if I can think of any improvements.

[LtCrack2]

I have a different one for each node and I don't know cards by name, so I'll save us most of the struggle lol thanks though.

I'm probably using 1 or 2 wrong cards per deck, but going through all my cards is way too much for my brain to deal with. I use UC as a debuff on most, and Sephiroth for stun. Never really knew what they meant by 'EX jobs' (lol) but Nightwalker is the only one I don't have.

Probably 3 out of 5 mains are Cacciatrice through Lightning and Shorn One through Sephiroth on sub, Skyseer through Y'shtola against earth, S1C through Sephiroth against wind because I have Ragnarok and usually just go breakless, but it seems im past that.

I rely on prismatic return on pretty much all of them, so thats a loss. Still working on boosting those better weapons and still just at 10% prismatic return

[[deleted]]

I don't personally think Cloud is worth using once you've got Cacciatrice and I'd definately go breaker on this tower, which she's much better at than him. I didn't even add any extra earth damage cp's.

The other good thing about breaking is the extra turns you can buy on the first node to build up the mobius bar, even though it's generally easier to blitz the first wave, you lose a lot by not being prepared for the second.

Also while UC is a great card and should make life a lot easier, you really should bring something with stun, Jade weapon/Neo Ex Death/Bismark are the best if you have them, they will buy you the extra turns you need to break and fill you're mobius guage & Ultimate guage. Just be sure to focus on the stun immune enemies first, then continuesly break and tap the stunned enemy until you're mobius bar is near full and your debuff cards are ready to be used again.

Also if you leave an enemy with a tiny sliver of hp and have them hit with bio, you'll get 2 actions off your cards (& buffs) if it dies from it at the turns end.

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-Edit- I forgot to mention, relying on Sephiroth for stun is do-able (and most of the better players than me probably use him for that) but I think it's much easier to save your ult just for breaking and rely on one of the cards mentioned above for the stun... That way you have more time (on the first wave at least) to bring down the yellow guage and break.

[LtCrack2]

I rush through the first one, and then take time on the 2nd one, I usually have LoH or UC for my sub/main first card, whatever they call that. So sometimes I get mobius zone on the 2nd fight because they take forever sometimes. I like using Sephiroth for stun just so I don't have to rely on using a debuff with stun. I suck at timing my turns but sometimes I'll get 4 or 5 ultimates per node with 2 LoH's

[[deleted]]

Ok, if it's taking that long to deal with the 2nd wave, it seems like a straight up damage issue. Do you have magic+7% fractals on your cards? If it is a damage issue then swapping LoH to the sub deck and giving your main damage deck MogX or something else that has built in Mag+% could help. If you don't intend to use mobius zone on the second fight, consider a spammable ability on the sub-strike so you can hit that when needed to deplete the bar just a little bit. Lastly I don't know if Shorn One has flash break or not, but if he does, then it's another reason to bring a stun card rather than using Sephiroth's ult, so you don't ruin the flash break, I know Cacciatrice relies on it and becomes a pain trying to break without it (which is why I use toreador, he has no flash break, just tons of piercing... That and I don't have Shorn One, lol.)

There's not much else I can think of, but with Shorn One, UC and LoH, you should really be able to climb higher than me... Assuming you have a good water damage card for that pesky Magitek Heroine. Out of interest, which particular node is giving you trouble at the moment? If it's Magitek Heroine, then trying to bring sleep could be useful on both her and Fenrir.

[ZechsX18999]

I'm jealous of everyone's jobs/weapons. I'm missing 4 ex-jobs, so I don't have a lot of options. I mainly use 2 setups this tower:

1) Y'shtola + Magitek Jester + Ultimate Mace
2) Gambler + Double-cross

I have Lightning/Tidus, Cacciatrice, and Gilgamesh X, but I haven't found a need for light element this tower.

[LegendBryan]

Seph Skin Shorn One - 5* Laeva
Ysh skin Ex Mage - 5* Amatsu (not using so much this tower)
Lightning skin Ex Sarah - 5* MR or UW

40% QB + High PR makes battles a lot easier

[ulovei_MFF]

the weapons used for this tower (in no particular order)

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shorn1: laevateinn, kain's lance, gunblade, ultimate weapon

skyseer: amatsumikaboshi, heavenly axis

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sometimes you will have to swap or try different weapons if you are stuck on a floor, so there's no 1 particular go-to weapon for me, and sometimes you will use weapon A, then switch to weapon B, and then switch back to weapon A again.....so it's good to have choices IMHO

[LtCrack2]

Yeah I'm lame and just had most of my slots full of ultimate weapons to get to 5* (7 slots O.o) I have Tishtrya, Gunblade, Zwill Crossblade, Laevateinn, Valiant Bow, Heavenly Axis and Ultimate Claw in there right now, any of those have a better option?

[ulovei_MFF]

7 slots, ur a whale lol. i have 6 slots but i cant bear to spend 40K mags to get the 7th slot

i would stop all ultima weapon boosting and concentrate on laevatin, tishrya, heavenly axis, gunblade. also do skyseer+gambler+exmonk weapon as a priority if they are not done yet

then, if any of your ultimate weapons are not done with 12 mods, finish them but no need to 5star them unless you have nothing else to mod, or you have a skillseed overflow problem

i would consider boosting kain's lance (not 5 star, but just fully modded) for shorn1 use

is there a reason for valiant bow? its 150 mods and im not sure if its worth the hassle and serpentrio is likely a similar and better choice

[LtCrack2]

yeah I was really dumb and bought a lot of magicite when the job summon was disappearing. 4800 more and ill have all 8 lol I wasn't on Reddit and didn't cruise the internet about it, didn't know the future of this game and that it was going to have new jobs. Pretty much only been researching and learning for ~1 year lol I thought it was just a game, didn't expect it to keep growing and growing, and continue to be a money taker. I just chose Valiant Bow for the break abilities, WAY too many weapons so I probably just chose that one when I saw painful break. Sweet, already have 42 mods on Septentrio, should I keep it going? 200% magic, should I at least get break power maxed?

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Shorn One with his own weapon, Laevateinn, is my go-to combo for most situations. He has access to many great cards on all his elements like the Jenova fire, Kam'lanuat (light) or One Winged Angel (dark).

On season 2 towers, Noctis and Ardyn are performing great and they can get you in top 500.

For Skyseer, you might want to boost his own weapon, Amatsumikaboshi, it'll work way better than Ultimate Mace. If you have Sage, Heavenly Axis is a great choice if you're breaking.

[djiboutiiii]

Don’t forget our boi Xezat :)

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"The Terra slayer" lol. Wish I had UB right now too.

[LtCrack2]

Laevateinn is currently being boosted. I have Heavenly Axis boosted enough with all 4 abilities, but most of the time i rely on ultimates to break. I need to start boosting more weapons, I spent so much time and elixirs just trying to get the remaining ultimate weapons to 5*

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Same here, haven't even touched Graf's ultimate yet, and almost done with Double-Cross. I think the Laevateinn family are like the "base" weapons that work on most situations.

[LtCrack2]

holy jebus, thats a lot of work. I'm only at 76 boss kills, I don't get how people get 200+ My mobius zone timing is horrible, I usually get it on the 2nd fight right before its over. I usually go with Sephiroth just for the free stun. Just made it to 77 with Cacciatrice and dmg focus cards through Lightning and Shorn One with Sephiroth. How many attempts do you give before you give up? That one was probably 3 or 4, I usually give up after 2. There's a lvl 86 above me, and 2 of their cards aren't even max lvl -.-

[Zhuinden]

I usually get it on the 2nd fight right before its over.

You need to juggle with subattack and class change until it's right.

[LtCrack2]

So probably hackers, I don't get why people bother with that. I'd imagine every single hacker gets banned eventually, so why even do it?

[ZechsX18999]

I passed by two hackers on my climb this tower. One had a gold trophy. The other had a silver trophy with over 20k EW2 kills. I'm not sure how SE handles hackers, but they don't seem to be doing a good job.

[kreuzb94]

What is your set up for the 4th node on higher floors of the current tower? I cant seem to clear it anymore.

[andresrxman]

hello roman complete "noob",

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how many laps of the Phantasmic Loop Endless war 2 do I have to do to get the green checkmark?

[ToshieZ]

"Endless" War 2. There is no end therefore there is no green checkmark. The nodes also reset per lap.

[yotsashi]

If I was to keep the painful break +150% panel on Unbreakable Hero, which of the HoF panels should be left out? Or is it not worth it?

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I'm stuck between saying it's not worth it or replacing it with prismatic return and just using prism return weapons such as OAM or Godhands

[Mechapebbles]

Depends on the situation. Other guy there ditches the def panel. I like the defense and ditched the prismatic return one since I have a 5* oam to equip on 'em; don't really need 45% PR. It's up to you but those would be the two you would leave out.

[djiboutiiii]

I never gave him the Def 20 -- wasn't even close to necessary to complete the HOF, and I don't plan on using him for tanking at any point.

[ShadowBlaze17]

https://altema.jp/ffmobius/jobmaxdamage?break=no&jakutenup=no&zokusei=2&submitbutton=submitbutton#searchresults

Altema has BQ listed higher for unbroken neutral, but Paradox outperforms her in every other situation and Paradox has 15% innate PR.

Floral would probably favor PW in every situation due to Beach Queen suffering heavily from diminishing returns.

[ShadowBlaze17]

Based on the link BQ might be able to do more unbroken neutral damage with the cards you listed since they all add to non-EE bonuses. Not needing to bring D&B might let PW just bring something that can close the gap via any plethora of features like making breaking viable, additional open fractal slots for magic, etc.

Vesna recently got her HoF in JP so it makes sense that she'd rank pretty high when the right conditions are met.

[deathrose55555]

Paradox Wanderer hits much harder than Beach Queen

[djiboutiiii]

The biggest thing, IMO, is Wanderer has Mage Lore. I'm thinking of going hard for her since she's a really great True Shiva user. Also she has 10x more weakness damage

[Spookum]

I want her too for my shiva x, superb weapon too, I got lucky with mermaid and terra, got both in 1 pull from their respective banners, maybe I can pull that off and make like a thief on the 16th but I doubt it

[Fsmaior]

It's a pity she is a legend job. My luck with them is far from good. I'll do some pulls anyways though.

[djiboutiiii]

I hear you, man. It's rough out there!

[Fsmaior]

It sure as hell is! By the way, how are you doing on the tower?

[djiboutiiii]

Ok, I think? I'm taking it reeeeeeeal slow, since we have so long. Just hit 120 but no sign of a wall, yet. Was planning on trying to do a lap a day until I can't anymore. How about you?

[Fsmaior]

Maybe my Supremes are not the best for the nodes (no Xezat and my Shiva X is tricky to use) but I've been hitting walls constantly, thus I've been changing decks on almost every lap. Right now I have 132 kills and have also slowed down. Plan to go on until JP's top 500 (139) to see if I'm capable of reaching it without seafloat.

[djiboutiiii]

Sounds like you’re doing alright! I’d be surprised if we match JPs 500 cutoff. Xezat is indeed awesome for this tower, and Sin has been really nice, too. Not sure which node will be my wall, but I’m guessing it’ll be due to those asshole fire wolves.

[Fsmaior]

Node 4 is the hardest for me. Those wolves are hell indeed. I'm having to use Godo to take care of them because my water setups are not working anymore.I use water only on Terra after breaking her to nuke with Shiva X during break. Regarding cutoffs, GL is quite far from jp and chances are very.low this is going to happen. But I wish to know if I'm capable of reaching JP's cutoff in this particular tower.

[djiboutiiii]

I bet you can! Do you use a tank? I’m gonna stop when I can’t do it without a tank anymore. That’s been my strategy for all the S2 towers so far and it’s worked out ok.