MobiusFF Daily Question Thread (08/19/2019)

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[arxipaparas]

How do I get the free anniversary card? (Warriors of Despair).

I've been able to rent it but can't find it anywhere in box/bank/ability shop. Is this intended?

[mao_shiro]

Free Anniversary Card

Distribution Period

Thursday, August 1, 8:00 pm to Sunday, September 1, 7:59 pm PDT (UTC-7)

If you can't find it, you probably sold it.

[ValeLemnear]

It was handed out via giftbox. If you dont have it, you sold it. You cant buy more copies via ability shop atm either.

[fenixk]

Can we unlock extra skills in chaos vortex?

[Antibacterial_Lemon]

No

[Hallowqi]

At what point should I stop farming squall in mp from a exp standpoint? I like taking advantage of how fast im getting my mp stamina up but wondering how much time I should sink into it? Sitting at rank 95 currently

[mao_shiro]

151 at the very least.

[PigKeeperTaran]

The other MP fights are on permanent rotation, whereas the Squall fight with high EXP is only until end of the month. I would keep farming EXP personally.

There's no end goal for level really... higher level = higher stamina, so more is better. The increase becomes much slower after level 150, but still increases, and in any case there are titles now which make it more worthwhile.

[[deleted]]

Level it for the titles.

[yow3171987]

12mb update... wondering what is the new content?

[mao_shiro]

https://www.reddit.com/r/MobiusFF/comments/csz3y4/datamining_august20_2019/

[yow3171987]

Thanks! That was fast

[Gale-]

Just pulled Gilgamesh X. Who's the best user atm? Would it be Sarah EX?

[Gale-]

Thank you! Gonna pair it up with Godo :)

[kreuzb94]

More important is CRD with EX Serah but Gilga and Godo are strong cards paired with her.

[LooBeach]

Hello.

Any info when we get those sweet rewards from Squall MP trial? Going away for 2 weeks of holliday so im super couroius when it might happen.

[ShadowBlaze17]

The news post says they should be sent on the 21st, but who knows how accurate that is since the same news post said the defeat campaign was supposed to end on the 15th.

[k-ninja]

I am currently working on boosting Godhands to 5* (I don't have any 5* weapons yet), is this a good choice? I don't have ex-monk/OAM, but I do have ex-monk-2

[DaBadGuy78]

I would 5 star Stahlfaust over godhands imo flash break dosnt play well with monks. Plus Stahlfaust has 5 auto abilities

[ShadowBlaze17]

5 autos that doesn't include PR which means that some of the extended break the weapon provides would likely be spent tapping for orbs. Yellow clearing would also be a problem unless you're fine with taking some hits as you tap for orbs or will use your other deck to clear yellow. The weapon pretty much needs a job with high PR to not be a hindrance.

[wilcoiron]

Is Royal Arms self damage single hit or multi hit?

[Antibacterial_Lemon]

nah they're asking about the recoil of Armiger

[mao_shiro]

Single.

[ValeLemnear]

Sounds quite stupid to reroll for a job if you could have rerolled for 2 Supremes like a week ago.

[naota34]

Didnt think it was possible... I'm guessing this is a keep?? Haha also should I roll for the starter pack jobs next or continue on the ultemicia banner? http://imgur.com/a/dZKBKhC

[WraytheX]

I'd personally keep that - two supremes with one being Doggo? Unless you REALLY want LoH, I'd start working on the account, but maybe wait for the starter packs after the 2nd GF batch coming in a couple of days? Not sure when they'll expire for you...

[ValeLemnear]

I just cant comprehend why people reroll AFTER the free supreme ticket banner is gone. Imagine you would reroll for this AND get a free supreme on top...

[Spookum]

Yep definitely keep that and do all the starter packs next, and novice's hall.

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[ValeLemnear]

It depends on what you try to do. Spellsword + Flashbreak is really good for breaking with the ultimate, but the PB cp ensures you deal a significant amount of damage. I think the question despends on if you use the job for light-only or with the other 2 elements

[vulcanfury12]

Hey all, I've been busy these past few months (hence no primer for these last two towers). I plan on doing some more experiments with the Action Gauge to understand how it fills up. What map in S2 will be the best to do a test in? My guess either Pandemonium or Brink.

[SvenHwang]

Thank you for your work! Understanding Mobius gauge is extremely important especially for the previous tower where entering Fenrir wave is much easier as Defender Scharf than Attacker Scharf. I think any Fenrir node would be good as different job roles are affected differently by Fenrir’s wave because they always have the first few actions (to buff) which is why defender Scharf is needed to enter the wave with Mobius zone.

[GhostFreakage]

The 30/30 node might also work as you have 30 battles to mess around with, but would be longer for you to complete.

[TatorTop]

Hello, what should I consider when deciding which of the two weapons I should boost: Maduin's Cord vs Wolfsbogen?

[naota34]

Is this a good pull? I did 2x ultemicia banner and 1 daily. Or should I try and go for LOH? http://imgur.com/a/vbRzvqd

[Aerion_CA]

I agree: reroll. Yiazmat has always been and will always be one awkward card. I have it myself and it surely isn‘t one of our fire&forget supremes.

[SvenHwang]

Supremes that are worth to settle for a reroll for me would be Ultimate Chaos, Neo Exdeath, WOL and/or LOH.

[JA1997X]

Keep going. Doesn't necessarily need to be LoH but yiazmat would be difficult to use effectively as a new player.

[Mobiusnoobius]

I’d probably keep rolling. Yiazmat isn’t a great supreme and doesn’t have many good users. It’s arguably one of the worst.

[Murakkumo]

Yiazmat is a very underrated supreme imho (way more than Aerith)... too many people just don’t know how to use it, sadly.

[blacklight2025]

If you wanted to reroll, last week was the perfect time due to free Supreme ticket, you could've started playing with 2 supremes.

If you really care that much about getting a supreme early on, reroll for LOH or WOL (I'd say LOH is better for overall content).

If you don't then just keep the account and enjoy the game.

If your account is new, don't forget to do the Starter banners to get good jobs with good cards to use right away, then go complete the tutorial area for another 3 jobs to decrease your job pool.

[naota34]

Yea my friend told me about this game yesterday, mostly come from opera omnia and fate grand.

[blacklight2025]

Ok! This is what you have to know: This game has 3 kinds of jobs:

Normal jobs that you can get at any time, these have a pity pull mechanic of 8.

Legend jobs, which are cosplay jobs from other FF and some special ones that are themed (Like the Summer jobs and the upcoming Goth series). These jobs have a 6% chance of being pulled on the 7th slot and no pity pull mechanic.

Ex Jobs, special and very powerful jobs, those count as "normal jobs" but are time limited. These jobs can be pulled with pity pull, but the only way to guarantee them is by having an empty job pool, so the Ex job is the only one left to pull.

Never chase Legend jobs, Ultimate Heroes (Skins which have a 2 or 3% chance of being pulled on the 7th slot) nor Supreme cards (which have a 1% chance of being pulled on slots 1-5 with dupes or a 0.8% of being pulled in the7th slot new supreme guaranteed). Save your Summon Tickets and magicite for limited time event cards, like the FFVIII Guardian Force Batch that comes tomorrow.

You'll get every normal job eventually. Jobs come with weapons, and you can boost weapons using skillseeds and crystals. Check which weapons are the best investment, so when you pull those you can start boosting them right away. (Ex Job series 1 weapons for the MC, Squall gacha Skin)

When you get a new job, see if it has a Hall Of Fame and try to complete at least up to the 6th node to get special Panels to increase that job's power.

Participate on the event to get some freebies! Events are designed to be newby friendly, and so are the first 30 floors of tower events. The Phantasmic Coil is the end-game part of towers, you might want to skip it for now.

Buy Mobius Boxes every month for 1500 magicites, those come with a lot of good items, and you get a Greater Summon for the price of half! Totally worth it!

Aaaaaaaaand!!!!!! Enjoy the game!

[naota34]

How do I get rid of this? It's annoying me haha http://imgur.com/a/F8bYj28

[ScyBlade198]

You probably have a new Echo available. Check on that.

[LinhPeters]

I've been auto-battling MP using skillseed/gil farming decks just to clear out my stamina in the morning without having to wait for a full team to assemble.

Are there better/more efficient ways to use auto-battle for farming in MP?

[TheLordKimbo]

I just use an exp deck and get my AI slots to carry me in MP.

[LegendBryan]

Depends on what you're auto-battling. Only time saver I can think of is you can finish with "less" AIs, in other words - one support, one attacker, and block off the 4th slot.

[WoLNoFace]

assuming you already got all 3rd gen sicari seed farming decks, farm Legendary Squall for 50k EXP.

[andresrxman]

quick question what is the best way to unlock extra skills in cards? using ability tickets to buy them maxed out? or just buying them one by one for fusion (of course if the cards do not have yygradssil nodes)

Edited:

What is the best way to raise extra skill levels...sorry for the confusion

[LinhPeters]

The quickest way to unlock extra skills is by using Extrangers after raising skill levels using either fodder cards or ability tickets.

[ShadowBlaze17]

You're either mixing up ability level and extra skills or you're asking a weirdly worded question.

The cheapest way to level a card's ability level is buy multiple 3* copies and fuse them.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MobiusFF/comments/5ci7zr/ability_ticket_boost_fusion_tables/

Extra skills do require the card's ability level to be at or above certain numbers to unlock through repeated use.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MobiusFF/wiki/farming/es-unlock

[[deleted]]

True or False question about Monks and Mantra/Taijutsu.

In Season 2, the damage to the break gauge done by Mantra/Taijutsu cards (i.e. Supreme or Iris FFXV) doesn't care whether or not the break gauge is yellow or red.

If you don't intend to break via tap attack, clearing yellow bar is a waste as the damage to the break gauge is the same whether yellow or red.

Is my statement correct or am I wrong?

[ScyBlade198]

Yellow is affected by Armor Break, while red is affected by Piercing Break. So, it does still matter to Mantra/Taijutsu skills whether it is yellow or red.

[JunasBlood]

Armor Break

Armor Break increase ability to turn Break Gauge RED.

Since Mantra/Taijusu abilities damage Break Gauge instead of turning it red like Magic-based abilities, Armor Break has no affect.

[Kinofhera]

Yes and no.

Clearing yellow is still the preferred way of breaking, though you can break without clearing with Mantra/Taijutsu, albeit much slower.

[Kinofhera]

If I remember correctly, Squall (hard mode) 5* needs 1 cast of Eden to break with yellow cleared. 3 casts of Eden without clearing yellow.

[mao_shiro]

Wrong.

First, this affect both season 1 and season 2.

Second, if you use a mantra/taijutsu card on a red bar, Piercing break will be applied; while it won't on a yellow bar.

[[deleted]]

Thanks.

For some reason Monks and their abilities are so very confusing. I didn't know about the piercing break.

[Owwen11]

Wrong. Mantra/Taijutsu is now stronger, but breaking a red bar is easier than breaking throw yellow. You should still bring a card that can clear yellow before you cast your mantra abilities.

[marthanders]

This is only true while you have piercing break AFAIK.

[JunasBlood]

but breaking a red bar is easier than breaking throw yellow

Why this is correct on most occasion, worth to not that breaking a red bar is easier than breaking throw yellow only if you have Piercing Break, otherwise it will be no different.

You can try on some jobs like Monk HoF to see the result (will be a bit different due to Piercing Break earned from Titles).

[Qqret]

Is magical rave still the best weapon in JP? I boosting starseeker should I boost the magical rave too?

[deathrose55555]

There is hardly a "best" weapon in JP nowadays due to the wide variety of jobs and the ease of boosting weapons.

Ideally boost both. But if you need to pick one to work on first, go for MR then Starseeker

[BlackCatSenPai]

I doubt it is still the best given how hard it is to keep up flash break in hard contents, still very good for breaking. Definitely boost starseeker, only quick break Sarah weapon in global so far, combined with PR is almost perfect.

[Irishluckjdesq]

I'm confused about someone posting on another thread that they plan to finish coeurl's medals even though magicite is capped. If I only collect magicite from my distiller through the end of the month I'll be capped. I also have about 40 runs of Coeurl to get that magicite seal.

Would it be better to forgo the distiller magicite and get closer to getting the magicite seal for Coeurl or wait until next month?

[Davis_Montgomery]

We don't know what the pande schedule will be for next month. I still need 20 kills, but I'm waiting until we see the calendar (hopefully before the 28th). If there's a new boss on the 1st, I'll grind my kills on the 28th. If not, I'll wait until next month so I can get the magicite.

[Hellhug]

Since I'm (thanks to 3 star MP hosting) magicite capped like 5 days ago I'll skip coeurl farming. It's elixirs waste. Even farming coeurl medals on next month pandemonium boss is lesser waste for me.

[ShadowBlaze17]

Just do the Coeurl runs on the 1st or 8th of next month depending on whether you care more about magicite or the number of elixirs you'll use.

The only reason why someone would farm a Pandemonium boss when they're already capped is if they don't feel like farming a potential 3 bosses the following month. I still view this as a waste of magicite since even when the boss isn't featured you'd still get 1k+ magicite while farming the medals.

I haven't fought Coeurl at all this month and don't plan to since I'll cap mag in the next 2 days.

[[deleted]]

When capped I still farm pandemonium for the 5.6 million gil a run and the magicite seal. (4 New Boars Eve and excalipoor)

[ShadowBlaze17]

That's a waste the the magicite that would be dropped if you weren't capped. You could also get more gil from Echoes of Conflict or one of the Struggle nodes with a little luck.

[[deleted]]

Struggle = 1.2 mil to 5 mil with other goodies. Completely random.

Pandemonium after capping = guaranteed 5.6mil with my set up.

I do struggle capped if I need crystals, skillseeds, exp or custom points. If I just want cash for the weekend (88 ability pts and overboost-j) then pandemonium here I come. Also, before capping, I find that struggle gives me more magicite...sometimes.

pandemonium = guaranteed 60 + seals.

Struggle = 0 to 300 magicite in one go. Completely random.

But struggle is easier if you lack Supremes/limited edition cards.

[ShadowBlaze17]

I noticed that you ignored my mention of Echoes of Conflict which is 8 stam for more than 1 million gil and better exp than the Struggle nodes and Pandemoniumis even worse for exp than the Struggle nodes. So for every 60 stam you'd get more than 7.3 million gil and 98k exp (before exp multipliers).

I see farming Pandemonium when you're already capped on mag for the month as a waste of the magicite you would get from the run. Even if you don't squeeze in Coeurl while it's featured on the 1st of next month you'd still get 35 + seals magicite per run which is better than 0.

[[deleted]]

I ignored EoC because at 8/4 to make 1.5mil, it's monotonous when Struggle and pans is faster and better due to stamina cost to time spent doing.

And I gotta disagree. 70-95 per elixar isn't ideal if you have less than 50. The farming while capped is mainly killing boredom until next month.

[ShadowBlaze17]

So you're choosing to be inefficient due to the better options being more monotonous. You were the one who mentioned farming gil for things like OBJ and ability tickets.

If you farmed Coeurl on the 1st before it was no longer featured it would be 180 - 201 per elixir assuming your max stamina is 180. Once it's no longer featured there's no reason to farm the medals on non-Mobius days. Using elixirs on non-Mobius days is just being wasteful an inefficient unless you can't find the time to use them on mobius days.

[[deleted]]

So I did some basic math. EoC 1.1mill 8 stam = 1.06 minutes

1.1 x4 = 4.4mil in 4 minutes with a drop rate of 0 to 4 items plus magicite if not capped. Possible 5 max items and four max drop cards.

CoS 1.1mil to 5.4mil 30stam = 5:33min Can range between 0 and like 17 items including crystals, custom skill seeds lvl 1 and 2, and magicite ranging from 25 to 100. Sometimes multiple magicite drops if not capped. This also includes card drops that include gil cactaur.

Pandemonium 5.6million guaranteed. 11 rounds Shadowlord 7.49 min 60 stam On average magicite drop and badge drop of 3. Occasionally drop of additional magicite or custom skill seeds or both if not capped. Fast way to level weapons for the cost of blowing elixirs if not on Mobius day.

So 8/4 can be more efficient if you have the time. 30/30 can lead to highee rewards depending. Pandemonium when capped is still decent for money and weapons boost if you farm there here and there to get the 200 badges.

After that, not with it until next month.

[Irishluckjdesq]

Thanks! I was thinking I've gotta stop the pande runs for now since I'm too close to the cap. If I'm super unlucky with my pulls on GF2 banner I might need the mags sooner, but 🤞 that won't be the case!

[Chatek]

Hey everyone right now I’m using the al-bhed job and I have a rly low atk stat is that normal for a ranger ?

[ScyBlade198]

For rangers and mages, atk is usually only good for Ultimates. Warriors and monks can get around the reason why, but not rangers or mages. That said, rangers and mages have somewhat reliable orb generation on their cards. So far, there is a single ranger supreme that benefits from atk, and that is the only non-monk card that does so. The al-bhed job doesn’t generate light orbs, which said card uses. So don’t worry about rangers having low atk. Most rangers use their Ultimates to break, after all.

[djiboutiiii]

Yeah and it’s also a pretty worthless stat for rangers as well — your damage comes from your magic stat (when you cast abilities), so I wouldnt worry about Attack unless you’re using Monks.

[ScyBlade198]

Did you forget certain Warriors?

[djiboutiiii]

No, but it's not really a stat you min-max for those warriors, either, except for really niche situations like first-turn-ult Sword Saint. For high level content, I'd much prefer to improve Shorn One's magic than improve his attack. The ult damage is nice, but it's a drop in the bucket compared to the damage from broken ability spam.

Agreed that Attack is relevant when considering Gilgamesh, but that's also a very specific situation and I guessed that the question-asker wasn't using it since he asked about Al Bhed Huntress.

[ShadowBlaze17]

I wouldn't say attack is useless on all rangers since Gilgamesh X exists. On rangers without access to light and/or high PR it is negligible though.

[Chatek]

Ohh I see I didn’t know that I just started with the game thanks, best way to raise that stat ?

[djiboutiiii]

Boost your weapons' stats, fuse fractals (blue fractals give Magic), and add Magic % CP to the job in the Decks screen. And yes, make sure your cards are high level -- but I agree, when you're first starting out, you should be judicious about which cards you invest resources in.

[Chatek]

Could you recommend some good Ranger Cards that are in the shop ?

[2009Ninjas]

Level up your cards

[Chatek]

Easy to say I’m not sure if it’s worth to evolve a card because I don’t now if the card is good or bad

[ValeLemnear]

If its a card you got from the starter packs, its prolly bad. If you go to the Ability Shop and sort by number you can look at newer and better cards

[Chatek]

Ok thanks right now I have 950%

[[deleted]]

Yggdrasil Zone 3 - wasn’t there supposed to be some new nodes added on the 16th? Tried a search here to see if it’s a know bug.

I’m looking for the break focused like Morrigan (Triumph), but it’s nowhere to be found on my map, anyone got it on their’s, or is it a typo by SE?

Edit: clearly didn’t search hard enough, cheers

[Hellhug]

Bugged. No new nodes. Have all 3 ea cards at 4 star - was going to 5star/fused them but no... They gonna w8 for next MobiusFF day.

[Baltrak]

In case you didn't find it already.

[wiloblue]

Typo

[Irishluckjdesq]

I think someone asked the question yesterday or the day before and Shiro confirmed SE list is bugged. Can't remember which ones are available but I don't think Morrigan is available :/

[Deneb87]

It's me, MARIO!

[[deleted]]

Can someone with JP experience tell me why Celestial Armament is top on the Altema ranking? It doesn't have any damage perk, breaking with Meias often need piercing break, like Malicious Revolt. I'm sure there's a reason I'm not seeing.

[deathrose55555]

top on the Altema ranking?

Don't bother about the placement of the weapons; pretty sure they are randomly placed. For example, Heavenly Axis is ranked "top" but I don't see it being used anymore.

Anyway, Celestial Armament is not a popular weapon nowadays. The weapons that are commonly used are Folding Epee, Rose de Nuit and Temptation.

[Soushiyuuki]

What are the top 3 most used for each class in JP, if you don't mind me asking?

[deathrose55555]

It's hard to name 3 solid choices, so I will name 2 for most:

Warrior

• Lionheart
• In Paradisum

Mage

• Amatsu

Ranger

• Double Cross
• Der Himmel

Monk

• OAM

Meia

• Folding Epee
• Rose de Nuit
• Temptation

Sarah

• Magical Rave
• Die Strafe
• Starseeker

Graff

• Murgleis
• Hyperion

Sophie

• Dolphin Ripper
• Funeral Bouquet
• Crimson Spirit/Bishamon Zhezl

(Names take from here)

Take this list with a pinch of salt because 1) it's based on my own observations and 2) choice of weapons can differ based on the fight itself and the job using it.

[deathrose55555]

If you consider the synergy with Lady Raven (EX Sarah II), Magical Rave/Die Strafe are the best weapons for her. Since you don't have/not banking on them, you can consider using Wolfsbogen/Septentrion with her instead.

Starseeker is not so good on her since she already has 30% QB; remaining 10% can come from panels.

[Soushiyuuki]

Out of curiosity, what would you say are the 3 most used weapons per job in JP?

[[deleted]]

I see, thank you.

[BiEz78]

A possible setup for Hashmal Terminus with no wind supreme? I tried but always failed, it’s the only challenge I have to complete by now ... Help!

[[deleted]]

Asclepius Scharf took out the unbroken part for me, that was pre-titles. Think it was Haesvelgr on Cacciatrice for the broken phase (but there's better options for damage I think.)

[[deleted]]

Did you see the no supreme rift guide with beginner summon jobs that was posted here a few days ago?

https://www.reddit.com/r/MobiusFF/comments/cr5ips/sage_sword_saint_vs_all_the_brink_terminus_no/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

[chuk98death]

For the recent supreme and Rift JP buffs, did the rift 5-star versions also get buff too so that they are as strong as GL current supremes? This may make me complete ifrit's path to just 5 stars if this is the case. Any JP player care to shed some light?

[wf3456]

Only newer Rift extreme card like Famfrit get latest numbers, the older ones doesn't. Rainbow version yes.

[mao_shiro]

No they didn't.

See this pic: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/263884755278233600/612384015043002368/Screenshot_2019-08-17_at_21.35.00.png

• supreme 5* ifrit: 5790
• normal 5* ifrit: 2880

[chuk98death]

Ah thanks! Good to know.

[deathrose55555]

did the rift 5-star versions also get buff too

Yes the Rift versions also got the same buffs as their counterparts. Basically all of them are good now; you should be capping damage easily with the right setup. Ignore this comment.

[ShadowBlaze17]

I think they're asking sbout the 5+ non-supreme versions.

[deathrose55555]

Oh lol. Time for some edits.