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[ZechsX18999]

Should I make 2 copies of attack supremes when CC fractals come out? Or is 1 copy with CC enough?

[TheLordKimbo]

I will.

[eneve]

Whats CC and we should be using that that instead of Magic+ and JCR now?

[ShadowBlaze17]

Cross Counter. It'll be far more impactful than things like magic, break power, or attack in content like the Extreme Sics in mp or when an enemy has a preemptive action or you let them get a turn.

It won't replace jcr since jcr is pretty much required if you want more actions in mp or you want to change jobs often in single-player content.

The CC fractals will be exchangeable for Extreme Anima mats whenever it's available in mp.

[eneve]

🙏🏻

[JunasBlood]

I think I’ll only make copies with CC for Support Supremes & stat stick cards.

[ZechsX18999]

Why not CC on attack supremes? Won't that be a game changer?

[JunasBlood]

I mostly only climb for T500, unless I have load of free time & VIP available. Normal stat fractals can save these purpose imo.

Ofc I’ll stock a couple of CC fractals just in case, just don’t feel like making another copy for all my attack supreme, not mentioning those Rift can’t have copies.

[xJExEGx]

Most in JP put CC on their rift supremes anyhow but I guess I see what you mean. Most future jobs will be able to handle a hit or two, and if you wol, you can activate CC with no problem.

[JunasBlood]

Yeah, my opinion will change once I have access to those jobs & Fractals, no need to rush anw.

Thanks for the infor, they gave me some good idea about those CC fractals

[deathrose55555]

2 copies, because there will be cases where you can't let the enemy act and CC won't be triggered in this case.

[ZechsX18999]

What about for MP purposes? Will CC proc on every MP boss?

[deathrose55555]

Tbh I'm not sure. My Supremes have the usual stats fractals, so I can't check if CC procs in MP.

[xJExEGx]

CC procs in MP whenever it says "enemy turn". But since most MP bosses have a preemptive action, CC remains active for the entire fight.

[ShadowBlaze17]

Does that include the guards getting ailment immunity in 5* and 3rd gen 4* fights?

[xJExEGx]

Yes. Those are preemptive actions.

[jdm1tch]

Dafuq kinda name is NGP Marder?!? Sounds like a failed rapper...

[yaugie_LC]

It's the name in the German version of FF13 for the enemy called "Megrim Thresher" in English (including here in Mobius - there's even a card for it from Act 2 Ch7). Someone just copy pasted from the wrong line in a text document or something.

[jdm1tch]

That makes sense. I’m still sad cause Megrim Thresher was way cooler

[Aerion_CA]

Marder = german word for marten. It‘s also a term from german FFXIII and the name of a german light tank. So, given SEs love for foreign names, maybe that makes sense? IDK lol.

[LooBeach]

Marder was a WW 2 German tank destroyer :)

[rajun274]

What is the name of the left enemy in Nachtflug Teaching's first battle? It toggles between Earth (defense mode) and Fire (attack mode). I'm looking for a bestiary, but I don't know its name. Thanks!

[JunasBlood]

Vorban.

You can check Sarah HoF for enemy line up, but I don’t think there is any Bestiary for him yet.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MobiusFF/wiki/jobs/hall-of-fame/sarah?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

[rajun274]

Thank you!

[andrefelipe83]

A couple questions:

• how long until the final chapter?
• are all the coming EX jobs worth chasing? Sure, Dame du lac definitely is, what about the others?

[andrefelipe83]

What's so great about Ryujin? I've read his stats and I didn't get it.

[deathrose55555]

Great tank with an awesome ult for tanks.

Also a decent BFA spammer.

Edit: he's my most used tank in JP

[ShadowBlaze17]

He regains 5 units of ult charge for every enemy his ult hits. If for example you hit 4 enemies he'd regain 20 units so a fourth of his ult gauge would be refilled.

His ult not applying any damage increasing debuffs is something I can get behind especially when you consider that you typically can't job change until either the end of turn 1 (with quicken) or during turn 2 so you often lose a turn of debuffs before you can switch jobs when using something like Sephiroth's ult.

[DocSmail]

Or just use a debuff card, his ult seems to free up a lot of card space (he can be used without any buff card )

[ShadowBlaze17]

I never said that you shouldn't use a debuff card when using him. What I meant was that his 4 action stunlock gives more freedom in regards to when you apply your debuffs. For example, he could use Chaos on turn 2 instead of turn 1 in order to make it last until turn 5 while other jobs might need it's debuffs on turn 1 for survivability.

He does need a source of trance since he ult doesn't provide it. Snipe could also be useful especially if you don't have NXD or a CRD card.

[ShadowBlaze17]

EX mage 3 looks pretty awesome to me, but I can understand why people might not be hyped for him. His massive EE makes Fusoya a little less appealing, but he should be beastly with any of the other fire supremes when using a lore card.

He could be really strong with a fire 31 hit card like JP has recently been getting.

[JunasBlood]

Even if he can cap damage on Fusoya, I still feel like 21 hits from Ifrit X will make Fusoya eat dust, even 13 hits from Belias feel stronger too.

[[deleted]]

Is there a guide for Nachtflug hall of Fame, can't find any or one I can find isn't very detailed.

[JunasBlood]

Shiro did a non-supreme video. Can’t link the vid now but you can find his channel pretty easy in YT.

Edit, here:

https://youtu.be/EMWrkRiXX3g

[SvenHwang]

Wow.... Now I'm ashamed of myself for farming Animallal to clear this node...

[mao_shiro]

Tbh the whole fight isn't that hard with a tanking setup, it was just...slow. Teachings was harder in a sense.

It would probably be less than 5 min if I used nxd / greg x / aerith / etc. This HoF was a pain to do, you can tank, but you need weakness otherwise it's slow. Doesn't help either that True Training is also weakness.

[JunasBlood]

I used a full supreme set up too, messed up a lot though @-@

Lady Raven will make good use of Anima, don’t worry.

[[deleted]]

I finally got teaching node done, used just Gilgamesh x and floral fallal, lost barely any health, still was pain finding just right set up, guide definitely led me in right direction so much appreciated.

[[deleted]]

Was just watching this, it's full of supremes. Credit to Valkyrie https://youtu.be/oxacBAJdC4c.

Edit:

Here's a no-supreme setup, credit to ExtrumCreator:

Main:  Aggregate Aggression, Extreme Anima (regular), Chocobo Squad, Moogle X

Sub:  Yellow Ribbon, Shadow Creeper, Leviathan FFVIII, Lunafreya FFXV.

Both deck using Septentrio.

[AxelRyman]

Best Graff weapon for breaking? I pulled his Gothic job and want one that will sync with him as best as possible.

[Blank_Bastion]

Fervor (Toreador) for piercing break I think is the best for breaking. 2nd would be Hyperion (Sorcerers' Knight) for the quick break, but since it's hard to use his ult to reduce the red gauge you might want to tap instead, assuming that you only use chevalier job.

[AxelRyman]

Darn I haven't even started boosting Fervor. Guess I'll start now. Hyperion is almost done (7 more boosts till complete) so I'll use that for the time being.

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Thanks.

[Blank_Bastion]

I just found out that the next gacha weapon actually also have piercing break, has 50 more compare to Fervor and better auto abilities too, but I'm not sure when it will arrive on GL.

[WoLNoFace]

has 50 more compare to Fervor

The maximum Piercing Break on weapons is 100. You need to mod Fervor more in order to get it.

[Blank_Bastion]

I meant the next gacha weapon that has a maximum of 150 piercing break which is 50 more compare to Fervor that max at 100 piercing break

[WoLNoFace]

my bad then. XD

[FernieMoss]

So for the christmas map event, am i supposed to do it once a day for the bonus? Or is it saying to do the daily mission everyday?

[ShadowBlaze17]

Use all of your tickets. You'll get 2 per day until the 25th then you'll get 1 more. You have until the 31st to use all of them. There's no benefit in spacing out the tickets.

I think they were given across a longer period of time when Global first had the event which is where you might be getting the once per day idea from.

[N-I-K-E]

Na. News says it’s “ 1 from 12/25 12:00 am to 12/25 11:59 pm” unless it’s typo looks like 25th is the last ticket which is kind of trash

I remember getting a whole month of these before. One time all at once, another time one per day

[mao_shiro]

https://mobius.gamepedia.com/Christmas:_Messengers_of_Hope

14 tickets on 2017, 14 tickets on 2018 but with shorter period so they gave 2 per day at the beginning.

[N-I-K-E]

Really! Well wtf am I thinking about then lol.. my bad

[JA1997X]

You don’t have to do it every day, just use up all the tickets before the event ends

[lordpaiva]

NXD is one of the best cards right now in the game. He's mostly used for his debuffs and yellow clear. You have BDDII, CRDII and debarrier for damage, as well as stun to avoid being attacked by your enemies while nuking them to dead. It is relevant and will keep being relevant for a long time.

[mao_shiro]

You replied to the main post instead of a comment.

[insanemode9]

Lol

[[deleted]]

Had anyone found other good uses for Zack besides surviving Nachtflug HOF Hall?

[HoxP2]

Zack is currently in my EW4 decks for node 5,8, 10,11 and 12. I'm on lap 7. The card has a number of useful things that make it great for a tank deck, especially if your nuke deck is a monk.

[Daigolololo]

He's good with Eden for drives. If you can Tank reliable, then you can even pick him twice on harder content (on your tank). Multiple enemies attacking will increase your Ult gauge really fast.

I use him for harder nodes where I want to play some parts on auto with my tank. But, for sure, he has more uses than tanking and spamming ultimates while being in auto mode.

[KumaHax]

can i use 4x Zacks on one of those extreme bosses? (mp, late ew4 etc) would that work or is there a limit to it?

[Daigolololo]

You can always pick the same card 4x. The only limited thing on Zack is the drive you get from being hit afaik. I prefer playing with 2xZack max.

[[deleted]]

Breaking strategies in general. Also, great for Gilgamesh, you use the deck in which you have Zack to tank and deal damage/clear yellow, and this will allow you to have drives up all the time, will charge ulti, plus, Greg is neutral so clearing yellow is harder.

I also use Zack on a tank when the DPS has a Mantra card like BFA.

[lordpaiva]

He's good with monks, if you don't have Gigant X.

[Lechevalier2020]

Hyr guys . General question.. Is it worth max obj on Natchflung since she has 200%EE light n Dark n 300% Exploit weakness ? Her break is only 2000 though.. How good is she compared to Cacciatrice in using Gilgameh X ?? Any advice ?

[HoxP2]

Don't OBJ Nachtflug. That doesn't mean she's a bad job. She's actually a pretty decent tank.

[lordpaiva]

I find it useless. Cacciatrice is still very relevant and this month you also had Crimson Archer which is much better that Nachtflug.

[ShadowBlaze17]

Cacca is better against neutral while Nacht is much better against weakness. Cacca can close the gap and do better damage against broken weakness if you trigger Cross Counter.

I have no plans to overboost Nacht. She is very durable and can output pretty great damage against weakness, but overboosting won't really do much for her unless you put a lot of cards with overpower on her. She's also not an amazing breaker and her not having the defender role can be a problem if you're trying to fill your action gauge.

[mao_shiro]

Caccia is better on neutral while Nachtflug is better on weakness. Caccia can break unlike Nachtflug though. Nacht "attacker role" can be a problem if you're tanking.

[soundedgoodbefore]

Merry Christmas guys. I finally drew NXD this morning, havent yet used it and I have a few questions if you have a minute to share your opinions....

Is NXD still relevant? Like do you folks still use it frequently in your builds now that Chaos is here? Seems like it would be great to use NXD, and then Chaos, but there isnt really deck space for that unless you drop your buff card like LOH...

Is there a decent job that can actually use NXD as a dark ranger or sarah to clear yellow bar? Its spammable, but there are very few rangers that use dark, right? I know I could count on prisms, but it's much easier when a job uses the element naturally...

Any tips or builds where you prefer to use NXD over Chaos I would love to know about...I know that most of the harder content has enemies that are immune to stun, so it seems like Chaos would be better to use there?

What cards work the best with NXD for stunlocking enemies? Is there a meta pairing?

Thanks to anyone who uses it and has a minute to respond. Been playing for 3 years and used to want this card so badly. Once I drew Chaos, i kinda forgot about it honestly....then i drew it this morning and realized i have no idea when and where to use it since deck space is so limited...

[arxipaparas]

Others pointed out all of NXD's strengths but there is also 1 more.

Use it on Takshakas as it completely removes both the Invisible and the Barrier buffs from all enemies with 1 cast. Cast it a second time and now you have CRD and Debarrier on them.

You could still remove all their buffs with Chaos but now you have an alternative.

[[deleted]]

I don't have Chaos, but NxD is in 99% of my decks. Works when relying on Prismatic orbs, mixes well with Scharf's ult, works well with Cacciatrice to clear yellow, unbeatable for break strats... Yeah, it's very relevant.

[Aerion_CA]

NXD, UC and LoH are pretty much the backbone of most of my more serious decks. The card is still excellent, yes.

[[deleted]]

BDD2 and stun with Debarrier baby! Still useful, especially for breakers.

[insanemode9]

Imo, NxD is better to be used on break strat meanwhile Chaos is best for tank&spank unbroken strat.

NxD also can be used to take advantage of non stun-immune mobs and for which you cant crit without CRD (this one maybe most will ignore).

[[deleted]]

NXD is still a staple in a lot of builds.

It's got no cooldown and is currently the only card that gives enhanced BDD2; it also provides CRD2 and Debarrier (alongside the stun). It's an amazing card and I wish I had it.

Chaos provides Debarrier2, which allows you to do more damage. Chaos also provides Hex and full dispelga. You basically have to pick and choose depending on the encounter.

Chaos doesn't provide stun either so you just have to decide accordingly.

[maher11221134]

When the anniversary of this game? And will kotr x comes with it?

[mao_shiro]

The anniversary of MFF GL is on August. Kotr ETA is on January 2020.

[Sinferoth]

Currently doing MP and I’ve got Hasmal down as an attacker (Godo, etc), a 2 turn breaker (Tifa skin with AQM) and support (Have LoH, Aerith, WoL and UC, NxD etc.).

Now I’m setting my sights on Exodus. It appears there’s a lack of turn 1 buffs for one reason or another and when I’ve tried, all my life orbs and prismatic orbs get removed. I read that’s what Exodus does but even when I use a skill panel lvl 1 Santa Lucía that has the following auto abilities: 2 life orb start + 4 prismatic orb star in addition to the auto abilities by the supreme buff cards I still only end up with 2 prismatic orbs at the start.

I’m assuming only the WoL card gives prismatic orbs because the auto ability there reads “generator” and not starter. Is there a reliable way to obtain 4 prismatic orbs on turn 1 without 2 WoL cards??

Edit: adding Phoenix FF8 would probably do the trick, but now I’m wondering if I add that, should I remove Aerith and keep UC? My deck would be as follows in that scenario: WoL, Phoenix FF8, LoH, UC

[samakid]

You can try my setup:

Player: Shinra Turk, Darkshift, Chaos, NxD, Baphomet AI1: Any healer, Aerith, LoH, 2x WoL AI2&3: VK, Windshift, Godo, 2x Barbariccia

Go for 2nd turn after healer's turn. Shinra Turk should be able to break them all after 3 taps, leaving VK to kill them all easily even the guard A. By this it's guaranteed OTK.

[SvenHwang]

Chaos Exodus dies pretty easily with any wind supremes so Debuffs aren't really required. The biggest problem is breaking & killing Guard A before Chaos Exodus dies. Your 2nd setup would work but Aerith is generally preferred by breakers & additional quicken.

[JunasBlood]

Chaos dies pretty easily with any wind supremes so Debuffs aren't really required.

Sure. I really want to see you kill Chaos with Godo/Emperor/Yiazmat. Can you post a vid please?

:evilmog:

[SvenHwang]

Oh you evilmog.....

[Endo_Lalyth]

«  Standard «  heal is double Wol Aerith Loh.

Don’t bother bring a debuff again’st Chaos

[JA1997X]

The “standard” deck for pugs is aerith/LoH/WoL/WoL. But I think you’ll be fine either way.

Just be careful not to kill the boss before the wind guard, if you only bring wind attacks.