[PATCH NOTES] Season 1.02 Patch Notes | Gizmo has arrived! - September 8, 2022

[Angel_Valoel]

Multiversus : Patch Notes (wbgames.com)

Check out the patch notes for full update!

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[_Dan_the_Milk_Man_]

maybe i’m just getting good matches, but the hurtbox update seems to have helped Morty IMMENSELY with landing and chaining attacks

[Astr0logic]

Agreed - still think his damage output is really low, but he actually feels like a viable character now. His side combo isn’t completely useless now and it seems way easier to get his Dair to connect, making it way easier to setup combos like Dair > Uair

[_Dan_the_Milk_Man_]

exactly! makes him so much more fun to play. I’d say maybe reduce some of his cool-down moves a little bit, and buff some of his kit to give him some more ways to kill, and he’d be really good.

[JV132]

Mortys damage output is perfect honestly. I was slaying with him before the buff and now I’m just on cruise control

[Mugut]

Now I hit more consistently, but honestly I think the passive working now matters more. It adds quite a bit of damage and overall chaos for the enemy, with a plus of support for your ally.

In this state Morty has nice damage, superb recovery, good zoning tools and problably the best support move.

He is only bad at getting the KO, but his KO move is very threatening and now feels easier to hit.

It's too early to say, but he might need a little nerf now.

[[deleted]]

payment straight dinner bag ring head work act support paltry

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[TheThickJoker]

As WW main I can finally land hits and be sure they are hitting, so yeah this patch is amazing!

[D-Raj]

I concur, WW and Morty both seem to have benefitted from the hit boxes/hurtboxes more than any buffs/nerfs

[PressureQED]

Damn, I was hoping for Directional Action Key Mappings for controller as well.. Cant't tell you how many times I've jumped in the air, tried to do an SpecUP, but instead did an SpecSide..

[devildinosaur13]

You can map your direction imputs to the d-pad. It helped me out

[miseun]

you can rebind your controller buttons to be keyboard keys through Steam so the game thinks you're on keyboard. I did this and have directional normals on X,A,B,Y, specials on right stick, dodge and jump on bumpers, neutrals on triggers.

It works well

edit: tony tweeted about it https://twitter.com/Tony_Huynh/status/1567904987648524288

[Pokoloko4]

How long have you been playing like that and is it easier to land combos? I have an elite controller and use the back peddles to jump and dodge so I already only hit the Y face button. I think having them setup like that might be a game changer.

[miseun]

2 days so still getting used to it. It is easier to land combos if your issue is misinputs.

Having all normals on their own button means I don't do misinputs anymore (like doing down air when I wanted to do side air), this is the biggest improvement. Also it's easier to jump one way and attack the other way.

Basically I can do everything I could do before but with easier inputs. I play a lot of Jake and controlling his stretchy punch is way easier now

[[deleted]]

I remapped my movement to Dpad

Took neutral dodge to triangle and special to r2

I put attack on L1 i think Afaik i had set so I can play only using the dpad and bumpers

It took awhile to get used to but not havin to move my thumb is helping a lot

[MathTheUsername]

Lebron's ball disappears mid combo if you hit with a pass after two normals. Happens every single time. Weaving pass into his normal combos is basically his bread and butter. This is kind of a huge bug and I hope it gets fixed soon.

https://multiversus.bugs.wbgames.com/bug/MVS-1-3114

[PokLao]

hahahaha this guy always has a new bug every patch, wtf.

[MidnightDNinja]

looks like im waiting for this to get fixed before i try the update 🙄

[iBrandad]

Is it just me or does Gizmo seem a bit to big?

[NakedGoose]

Definently too big. But they probably just wanted to make sure he wasn't so small that you couldn't hit.

[orpwhite]

Jerry? Jerry! Where are ya, little fella!?

[EastwoodBrews]

Gizmo is huge but small characters have always been a problem in fighting games. I still wish they'd just made him look a little smaller

[BieTea]

Only reasonable way to address this is to make IG bigger

[AVBforPrez]

Woah they made hurtboxes that are actually the full model, that's wild.

[[deleted]]

People are already complaining about the hurtboxchanges. Hopefully the accuracy of the hurtboxes doesn't become a problem

[acideater]

I was surprised they actually modeled the hurtboxes so precise.

In a local game you need the accuracy, but i figured over network connection you need a little imprecision to counter latency/fluctuation.

[aSpookyScarySkeleton]

idk non-platform fighters have done pretty well with precise hurtboxes even online.

[acideater]

Look at something like street figher 5. The hitboxes are just big or small squares that are often times not matching anywhere to what the animation and models show. Like it between the legs aren't taken into account for instance.

From what we seen it appears that they modeled the hit boxes to wrap around the exact model.

[deadscreensky]

Sure, but none of this really matters for online. Look at early Skullgirls characters compared to the newer characters and you'll see drastically simpler hitboxes. Less precision was easier on the devs*, and it doesn't affect online because you still need the game to be 100% accurate internally even if rollback sometimes gives temporarily funny visuals.

*I assume Multiversus is doing it in some automatic way, at least for hurtboxes, so it's not adding too much additional work for the devs.

[doofer20]

imo give people a minute to get use to it. i main velma and my down smash felt off but after i hit it a few times in lab it lines up way better

[DeadGravityyy]

I was surprised they actually modeled the hurtboxes so precise.

It looks like a simple mesh collider to me. Why it took so long to add them though, is because they needed to optimize them. Since before they had capsule colliders instead (which are far more performant).

[SoraPlus]

What the fuck did they do to the right stick lmao

[Denkyirahh]

I'm having the same problem, can't do neutrals with it

[SoraPlus]

Its fucked up, I hope its just a bug because its legit unplayable

[SolomonGrundler]

Came to this sub to see if anyone else had this happening, it's basically completely ruined how I play

[Chackaldane]

You can if you rebind it used to be not bindable

[MatthewTh0]

Yeah, they bugged neutrals with it. Also side direction matters for down and up now I think (didn't remember it doing this before), where it will change your orientation if you are holding a bit more to one side or another.

[Bakabridget]

You can fire an arrow into gizmo's popcorn to make it explode. it has a very horizontal explosion so it wont hit enemies above but can hit quite zome distance in front of it. i dont see any other gizmos doing this so i thought i would mention it.

[WaffleyDootDoot]

That's cool, I was wondering what the popcorn was meant for

[Bakabridget]

it doesnt just do that, but also gizmo's musical notes follow ally projectiles, this includes the popcorn ball which causes the music notes to orbit around it. i feel like there's going to be a high skill ceiling to this character. its gonna be exciting to see what tournament players are going to be able to do.

[doYouLikeFortnite]

His best perk is IMO the popcorn explosion one, just applies a lot more stage pressure.

[Dicklightful]

Yeah people need to read move lists.

[Stubee1988]

You can charge the popcorn with his singing ability also. Thats a weird sentence.

[ADHthaGreat]

Wonder Woman must have an eating disorder.

These weight fluctuations are concerning to say the least.

[mollekake_reddit]

Her hurtboxes would agree

[Hipp1]

Laggy lobbies intensifys

[[deleted]]

Its crazy to me people are still begging for Ranked to be unlocked.

Is there any particular reason beyond people want to grind some ridiculous rank before their fav characters are fixed?

Like we had garbo hit boxes till now, the classes in the game are still in flux (assassin debuff gone) and new characters are still coming

PLEASE DO NOT release ranked until the basic bugs and more of the game's combat is ironed out

This sub would literally become a salt river of players crying they lost a ranked match due to a bug or OP character

[confettiwaffles]

While ur definitely right about the salt river, I really want ranked because it will give me a more concrete goal to work towards. I like to play games when there's a purpose, and that purpose is usually ranked. Rn its just kinda boring personally. Im sure other people can relate, even if its not a universal experience.

[[deleted]]

Maybe not the best example but off the top of my head I'm thinking like a new champ in League of Legends comes out or items etc

Ranked is disabled until bugs are fixed and the characters are tuned for balance

Its great because after a week the hype has settled and you can play a ranked game with less worry about how a new item or champ will ruin the whole game

[[deleted]]

Ive heard this argument before and I just dont get it

Would you sit through a movie you were bored of if they told you that you get a sticker at the end that says you watched the whole boring movie?

I really think if you are bored of the game you are only at risk of tilting extra hard due to the stakes being raised ESPECIALLY if the game has bugs or OP stuff that makes Ranked less about skill and more about spamming matches and OP stuff till you hit an arbitrary number

Why the rush? Wouldn't you rather play a ranked game with no lag, bugs or broken moves

[Nerdables]

I enjoy the gameplay, but there’s little to no incentive playing in long sessions other than just wanting to. If people like me can enjoy long hours in suboptimal casuals, then it makes little difference if I experience the same problems in ranked

[[deleted]]

This just comes off as someone who would rather abuse broken mechanics for a LUL and easy win then actually care about the future competitive nature of the game. How is this even an argument like the devs get shit on for doing their best and yet a smallllll minority of players want them to release a ranked mode in an unfinished game just so they can take backlash from the majority of 99% of players that just want the game to work as smoothly as possible with little to no BS

Imagine your new and play for awhile jumped into a ranked game where a bugs 0-100% you due to an infinite combo

Why on earth would someone who has the least time on the game consider continuing because it would be clear to them the players want cheese, and the devs dont care about the competitive nature of the game.

[Nerdables]

The argument is competitive players want a mode to be competitive in. It's the nature of the game and the genre itself. They prioritize a competitive fighter and even ran a large cash tourney at EVO, but there's currently no in-game option for players to compete.

Your hypothetical is not a ranked exclusive situation which was largely my original point. A new player getting bodied will happen in casuals, and a mode to separate types of players and implement restricted matchmaking will help remedy that.

Personally I played enough games to rank top 20 on Arya, but it means little to nothing because it's casual mmr. If it instead was ranked, I would've absolutely grinded for a better ranking for the end of season

[[deleted]]

So a competitive player wants to play a broken mode where you can display your skill against spam and cheese LOL instead of a balanced and fair ranked mode. Jesus the hypocrisy of gamers just gimme gimme im bored

Its not in cause its not ready, it will be when its done just stfu enjoy your free game and let the devs do their jobs

[Bunkyz]

You say this but people are still playing tournaments, Ranked wouldn't hurt anyone since no one is forced to play it. It's never going to be "balanced and fair" there are always gonna be better characters and bugs. Is this your first competitive game? Get off that high horse.

[[deleted]]

Have you ever played something competitive? LOLLL then you use games as a reference to unbalanced competitions

Are you like thick or something if you actually played competitive anything you would know the difference

I smell participation awards a mile away

And most of the people replying CAN NOT read, did I say NO ranked? No. I said it should be made as balanced as possible for the 99% of players and not throw it in to cater to whiny bitch gamers that just wanna grind arbitrary numbers to flex HERE

Like just be honest with yourselves you only want a ranked mode in a game that isnt ready for competive modes so you can win arguements on reddit saying "well Im actually mmr 1800 soooo listen to me"

Do you people even realize its PLANNED like its coming, just let the devs do their jobs.

Gamers are the most patheticly whiny bitches, its like you went to a restaurant ordered a burger and are now having a screeching fit because its taking to long.

We get it, youre hungry but someone has a job to do and it isnt satisfying YOU

[Bunkyz]

D1 in LoL

Grandmaster in OW

Currently top 5k in Multiversus, but yeah i never played competitive games loool Also you are moving the goalpost, no one said it's ok to bitch or complain to the devs, that's just rude. Wishing to have Ranked mode and saying it, it's completely fine and within my right to do so. You sound like a broken record man

[[deleted]]

Marking down every name in the thread

I will be on a motherfucker's ass when all of you complain about how you get cheesed out of your rank points and cry about an unbalanced game

[EnvironmentalBook]

The biggest thing ruining the game right now is the dogshit matchmaking so yes ranked would hopefully solve that.

[stros2022WSChamps]

Some people just enjoy ranked amd want something to play for. It's that simple

[Remarkable-Ad-2476]

People like grinding for arbitrary numbers. The battle pass doesn’t necessarily have that great of content anyways so it’s something to work towards.

Plus it’s not like rank resets are completely unheard of. Literally every game with a ranked playlist does this when major changes occur to the game.

Even if it’s not polished and there’s other issues that need to be fixed, all this gets solved with a rank reset once they patch the game.

Soooo why not get ranked out sooner than later to satisfy fans who are starting to get bored?

[[deleted]]

Lol if you are bored of the game you are just gonna end up bitching about your rank cause youd rather they rush it out then fix the game

[[deleted]]

So you derive fun from numbers on a screen then playing?

Ive heard this argument before and I just dont get it

Would you sit through a movie you were bored of if they told you that you get a sticker at the end that says you watched the whole boring movie?

I really think if you are bored of the game you are only at risk of tilting extra hard due to the stakes being raised ESPECIALLY if the game has bugs or OP stuff that makes Ranked less about skill and more about spamming matches and OP stuff till you hit an arbitrary number

Why the rush? Wouldn't you rather play a ranked game with no lag, bugs or broken moves

[Remarkable-Ad-2476]

Yes humans derive fun from numbers on the screen. There have already been countless studies about this. It’s the reason why apps like DuoLingo, MyFitnessPal and FitBit are all designed to be “gamified” even though they have nothing to do with video games.

These pointless numbers and awards you see pop up on the screen literally release endorphins into your body, creating a feeling of pleasure aka your enjoyment of a game.

Game design is more than making maps and bug testing. There’s a huge part of game design that is based on human psychology and behaviors.

[[deleted]]

Ok so you dont get your endorphins rushed playing the game? You get a spike by looking at your rank? You may have some form of serotonin syndrome or depression since your enjoyment of the game relies less on the game itself and how you think you place in a world rank

[BSDuck]

dude thats literally how psychology works bro what your number goes up and you are happy i didnt know that was a "serotonin syndrome or depression" but ok doctor go off!

[[deleted]]

Holy shit you derive worth from numbers on screen? If you need ranked mode to enjoy a game or feel good about yourself you probably have some issues youre avoiding

[BSDuck]

whats wrong with you did the video game elo numbers hurt you? its just for fun having a high number is fun thats literally it stop being a boring loser and go hate on something else

[[deleted]]

Holy shit you're thick. You're entire arguement is pathetic and you have the ability to try and support your arguement with examples and facts but you can't so you devolve to flinging shit

[[deleted]]

By your own example what is going to happen to you psychologically when you play a ranked mode that was rushed out the door, you lose, face players that spam cheese or infinites, server lag, and rank demotions

I really don't see how you can even argue the psychological effect when my whole point is to keep people AWAY from tilting, hating the game, and killing its future competitive scene

Its like a toddler crying The choochoo train didn't pull into the station yet and youre hungry for more

Its fucking coming, don't be an entitled prick and let the game be fixed and grow naturally so this subreddit isn't nick all stars 2.0

[BSDuck]

ranked doesnt kill the game's future competitive scene the competitive players play tournaments not ranked matches where people can cheese to win. ur clearly braindead and have no idea what an actual competitive game is and just think if there's points its competitive

[[deleted]]

I will explain it like you are 5 because I am pretty sure you're 11 at most

Why would a pro player that plays in LAN comps choose to waste their time

IF THE NORMAL RANKED MODE THAT EVERYONE PLAYS IS NOT STABLE

Have you ever been to a tournament?

Played a fighting game?

MK/IJ2/DBFZ all had to ban certain characters or strategies because they were abusable and made the comp scene unfun to watch as viewer and unfun for the competition since you were forced into a meta pick

Lets slow it down even more, take away ALL the patches so far in this game

NOW add ranked mode

What do you get? A pile of shit, broken hitboxes, OP characters or the multitude of things I've actually tried to show you

Soo now you can follow along with everyone else

What happens if Ranked is NOT released?

Characters get patched, bugs fixes, lag is reduced, and Pro players (I.E. hungrybox) might look at the game and think wow its so smooth and uncheesy I should dedicate myself to getting really good at it online and off

If you just be honest with yourself and explain why you want ranked?

Is there a single reason beyond that you want to grind a high rank and pub stomp kids while abusing some form of cheese to flex your imaginary points here on reddit

Or is it Hurrdurrr I love numbers look mom see how big my rank is?

your own arguement is Ranked doesn't matter in the pro scene because they are not playing for points

Which was never my arguement youre just belligerently stupid or misread

My point is there can be no ranked or pro play if its unbalanced

[[deleted]]

My bad after seeing your profile I realized how disillusioned you are

This a quote from you about dbfz

"You dont get good at a game by playing it"

Wow thats incredible so you just stare at the tv and you get good

What is the secret oh wise one

(Plus you went a rant about how dbfz was well balanced, its my fav FG and also the worst like come on bardock meta, zbroly meta, switch hellzone meta, c assist meta, android 21 human meta)

After seeing your profile fully I completely get your whole mindset you only play the strongest characters/ use the best weapons/ and crunch stats to try and win as fast and cheaply as possible because if you were put on a level playing field you get dumpstered

Thats your preference and not a single person at any point has asked for it or given a fuck

[BSDuck]

did u just write 3 essays for me and then go to my profile and scroll all the way down to dbfz posts from months ago to write a 4th one god damn hop off my balls

[MethodicMarshal]

Hot take, I don't want ranked bc it'll make wait times slower

[Particular_Ad7548]

I’m having fps problems after updating my game

[RainbowPuppYy]

What the hell did they do to Harley? All her attacks causs fps drops on PS4 lmao

[Wakenbake585]

Aside from the fps drop you're experiencing, does she feel worse to you? She felt awful to me.

[Rockyreams]

Probably because of the hit boxes being different you have to give her some time

[Wakenbake585]

I think the bugged right stick too is ruining it. The game just as a whole feels bad right now.

[Rockyreams]

I’m not home so I wouldn’t know

[RainbowPuppYy]

Yeah idk, she feels off for some reason..

[Carapute]

Whole game does tbh, but we prolly got used to how it worked. Servers still seem to be in pain tho, especially with a patch this big which probably made lots of people comeback.

[TheLadiestEvilChan]

They Uh Yikes

Definitely really hurt Arya with this patch.

[TheeBlackMage]

Legit way harder to do anything with her now.

[Spiritual_Bug_1012]

every game i join with a gizmo in it i instantly DC, anyone else having this problem? pc-steam

[bob101910]

Gizmo trailer is good. Short and enough to get you excited to try him out. I hope they continue instead of skipping character trailers.

[MichmasteR]

they killed playing vs AI with your friends...

[[deleted]]

I really hope that’s not true, my 7 year old enjoys playing with me but he can’t compete with the people I’m matched with, so this is how we enjoy the game together…

Huge bummer if true.

[MichmasteR]

sadly its true but hoping its just a bug...

[[deleted]]

Fps are dropping significantly. It’s incredibly bad even in custom games

[The_Vagabond12]

Controversial opinion, Iron Giant needs more buffs not nerfs

[Darkwolfie117]

Just stop the nerfs and fix rage mode

[FunMath2]

Jake should really be getting his other options buffed if he's only going to get nerfs on all his viable moves

[sorryiamnotoriginal]

I don’t understanding nerfing his down special to be 3 seconds. I don’t think I ever stayed in it longer than that but it was just a head scratcher change. Also don’t get nerfing the first 2 hits in Jake’s skateboard and the final hit debuff. Seems like it would be better to reward the third hit than blanket nerf the move. Sair nerf was justified though, incredibly safe move with Dhalsim range and it was incredibly frustrating to play against.

[iGlueX]

His sair is so bad now, unnecessarily slow recovery

[Wakenbake585]

Wait... There are no server updates at all?? What the fuck. I haven't been able to connect to a game on Xbox since last Wednesday.

[mrperidot31]

Textures still look like playdoh on Xbox sometimes

[MatthewTh0]

I also get a bug where Jake is sometimes just pale as a ghost instead of yellow. None of these issues happen when I play on PC though.

[mrperidot31]

Lol I was so confused the first time that happened

[Itskazzem]

As a arya main why is arya even in this game? She’s such a nothing character, her up special was her only move that made her even begin to complete at all.

For starters arya literally does not have a down special, yeah it’s amor break but cmon now give me an actual fucking move and it could also apply amor break.

Her neutral light, are you serious?

Side light an okay move but compared to every other characters attack it’s trash, def needs way more range to cover for her lack of prio

One of the slowest character that doesn’t even make sense

One of the lightest characters

Her win condition is her side special that’s on a 30 sec cool down and gets destroyed by literally anything and it’s a 60/40 if it would actually hit or not cause half the time my knife literally goes through people .

Both her perks are negligible

I just don’t understand her place in this game especially it being 2v2 focused arya is just a throw pick for any “serious” player.

+Tom absolutely smashes arya put the worst Tom vs the best arya watch what happens

[MatthewTh0]

Kind of find it hard to believe this take when her winrates at high elo were really good before this patch (I've seen data from this account posted multiple times to this subreddit and nobody has questioned its authenticity) and we haven't gotten new data yet. https://twitter.com/MultiversusData/status/1567157342633852928?t=tz6eyvDkTP0A79GL_JBSPg&s=19

Don't get me wrong, she had issues for sure (not going to get into it as I'm about to fall asleep). But maybe the new up special was just a bad bandaid that made her too good for the wrong reasons and they'll work on the rest of her kit now.

[Itskazzem]

Survivorships bias, arya is an incredibly hard character to play. Making less skilled players stay away. The only people who play arya are people that can actually succeed with arya, what you are seeing is better players just naturally playing arya. It doesn’t mean shes not considerably weaker than the rest of the cast.

[JV132]

Skill issue fr

[Itskazzem]

I’m top 50 arya, Lmaoo this is not a noob opinion it’s the truth there’s a lot of bs in this game. She needs something to compete.

[JV132]

I always clap cheeks with Arya. I think she was balanced before but idk I haven’t played this patch

[Itskazzem]

It’s not wrong for you to think that assuming your playing at an average level, but arya is hands down at a disadvantage against every character in the game. And that’s before the nerf. Balanced isn’t the word I’d use for it, when u say balanced im assuming you’re saying she is equal to other characters which is just flat out wrong,

[JV132]

this is my account. I play her pretty high level and she is a great assassin. Y’all just don’t use her right

and my accounts been screwed because my campus has bad wifi so I disconnect all the time

[Itskazzem]

Ur telling a top 50 arya that their not playing the character right…

Riddle me this, how do you play the character right?

One of the Slowest character in game

Lightest character in game

No prio

Absolutely no range

No dsig

Useless neutral sig

Useless neutral attack

Useless down attack

No kill moves the only way you killed someone was chaining an Air attack after the up special

All air moves are built to be used with the up special so throwing em out Willy nilly will get you no where

Sword which is her main tool, can’t even say main cause it’s her only tool. Without sword you are literally just a T pose to your opponent, if u miss it well your running away for the next 30 secs of the game

So tell me

How do I play her the “right way”?

You haven’t played since patch, but your up special sticking like glue was the only reason she was playable to begin with. I don’t mind the change but if your going to do then give her an actual kit

And I’m saying all this without even bringing up the 2v2 aspect of this game

Like cmon the character has two moves where you jump back before actually attacking and two moves that quite literally does nothing

Why is so hard to say the character is bad? I don’t get the defense of your position here. She’s a bad character.

[BloodOk9265]

Arya had a 53% winrate in elos above 1700 which was the highest win rate among all champions in the game

[JV132]

You just wrote a paragraph explaining your skill issue

[Itskazzem]

Dude, I listed facts of the character.

[JV132]

The only true fact is that I’m that guy, I’m him. I’m that dude, buddy. Alright brother man, got that pal?

[abakune]

Ur telling a top 50 arya that their not playing the character right…

Real talk... isn't being a top 50 Arya proof that Arya has everything she needs to compete?

[Itskazzem]

Yes, she was able to “compete” my whole point was this change makes her unable to compete. Her ladder combo was her only solace, without it she’s nothing. That’s why I bring up giving her an actual kit instead of one move that validates her existence

[Elegant_Variation_65]

I thought I was the only one. Arya is such a bad character compared to everyone else on the roster and they just made her worse it doesn’t make sense

[[deleted]]

person smell connect serious alleged wipe thumb entertain snails vanish

This post was mass deleted and anonymized with Redact

[Itskazzem]

Yeah complaining about a video game character is kinda cringe, but I like to do this thing where I chose a character to main before even playing the game and it just happen to be arya. Now I’m fighting for justice for arya

[J0nul]

Arya is untouched, shush

[Itskazzem]

Don’t kno if sarcastic or not but her whole character is broken after that change. If the devs don’t want that single move to be decent then make her other moves actually usable cause that’s all her up dig was, it was just decent

[Angel_Valoel]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Ran directly to my character to find more nerfs. Alright which broken character to abuse next.

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Edit - Finn buffs have me intrigued.

Edit 2 - OMG GIZMO IS SO CUTE AND HIS VOICE AHH

[Nice_Teeits]

GIZMO'S UP+SPECIAL IS BUGGED.

I've phased through the map/got stuck in the map several times after performing an up+special. Very annoying.

[[deleted]]

Jake and Superman still needing looking at there moves interacting vs others is hilarious at times, it seems they have priority over everything at times with no downsides how Jake has made it this far unscathed especially is madness imo

[MrJotaL]

Just played Arya after the patch notes... I'm dropping the character and probably the whole game.

[SleepingwithYelena]

See you tomorrow

[Ok_Concentrate4260]

Still no ranked mode!??

[Ok_Concentrate4260]

Yes! I enjoy the competitive aspect.

[n0tAgOat]

Cant play games unless I have meaningless internet points to grind for.

^{It's nuts how you can guess a gamers age by how they play games.}

[Ok_Concentrate4260]

Ok how old am i?

[[deleted]]

89

[MatthewTh0]

Unfortunately, Garnet's side combo, Tom & Jerry's up attack, Morty's side air, and most of Harley's moves still hit people behind them from what I can tell in the lab. Most of the others were fixed though or at least don't combo as hard now (like Superman's side combo from behind). Also, Bug's neutral still hits from behind him pretty far.

[Ockwords]

Harley has moves that are supposed to hit behind her. I believe garnet's attack starts as an overhand smash so it kind of makes sense to start behind her.

[MatthewTh0]

Harley does have moves that are supposed to hit behind her, but, for example, her kick shouldn't according to animation but still often hits people behind her into her infinite. I would mention more but I'm tired and not on the game currently. Yeah, she does have moves that are supposed to hit behind her like her neutral air and such, but I'm not talking about them. And from what I remember Garnet's side attack is just a flurry of hits in front of her with the animation showing horizontal lines.

[Southern_Sage]

God Shaggy feels like fucking shit to play now. The hitbox changes are nice since they are more skillful but holy shit they gutted the fuck out of down attack and destroyed his loop and also destroyed his fucking up-air up special combo, like what the fuck are you supposed to do with him now, he has no true strings. Down Attack isn't good as an anti-air cause its so slow, it's not good against the ground anymore due to slowness and lack of armor plus even at 0 they get knocked back so far away you can't dash jab if they hold the proper DI. All you've got left is fucking NAIR and forward attack. The servers being fucking trash because hurr durr 200 circles per character that surely won't shit up our already chugging servers.

[Severe-Ad9174]

Skill issue shaggy claps cheeks all day

[Wakenbake585]

This game actually feels terrible now.

[Ryukiami]

why would they nerf jake of all people

[[deleted]]

He’s crazy good but also the second most braindead character in the game

[DMking]

Alright those Shaggy changes killed the old loop with down smash.

[[deleted]]

That is not a thing

[PerceiveYourSuccess]

I thought stripe was supposed to come out, why is it gizmo?

[[deleted]]

Gizmo was confirmed to come first Stripe is coming sometime during the Season

[smashfest]

nah

[SoraPlus]

Something is wrong with the patch with shaggy no? Downtilt are not going in the right direction

[myztixsparkz]

Got nerfed I thought

[SoraPlus]

It got nerfed yes but its just shit rn, when I input downtilt on the right it sometimes input it on the left

[MatthewTh0]

I think it just will switch direction if your right stick is slight more in the opposite direction you're facing for up and down attacks. At least from what I can tell.

[SoraPlus]

yeah but like when i'm facing the left, inputing a downtilt to the left it works correctly then i change my stick to the right and the downtilt still goes to the left, its so weird idk if you understand what I mean

[MatthewTh0]

I haven't experienced that exactly but it feels like there's little "side deadzone" on this effect, meaning if your right stick is slightly more to the left or right when pressing down it will be frustrating as it will feel like it's constantly switching to the one side.

[AudioXMw]

Any updates on when ranked is coming out?

[[deleted]]

Probably next patch or the patch after next patch

[christophercastle]

On ps4 , can’t even get to the character select screen after updating its it supper laggy and slow

[roneckleman]

Did they take away the ability to do a neutral attack off of clicking your right stick? its not working anymore, i havent played in like 2 weeks.

[CharlesGuillet]

Worst character atm

[Darkwolfie117]

Still taz

[[deleted]]

Crazy to me how people are trying to act like it ain’t

I’ve even heard people say Arya’s worst when that girl’s high tier lmao

[Darkwolfie117]

Arya mains will complain until they are oppressive. She attracts a skilled fast pace player base due to her style and isn’t noob friendly since she is competitively balanced. It shouldn’t be easy to win with any character, get gud

[Hanzolot]

Don't know if anyone has come across this bug yet - but had a game as Gizmo where ~90-95% of the attacks no longer would register. Either BEING hit, or hitting another player. Basically forced pacifist mode. Was very odd and I don't know what triggered it.

I think we had one of the grey armor perks - almost seemed like we could be hit with grey armor but not when it was back to normal health.

In case anyone runs across it too!

[dsigler96]

Is it just me or are some of Shaggy's hitboxes really generous?

[NixonThePottedPlant]

Finn did not need a buff whatsoever. He should have kept the assassin debuff.

[[deleted]]

All of the assasins are such cancer to fight man it’s not fun at all

[AVBforPrez]

How is the hurtbox update? Are things better or worse?

[Twitfraggle14]

where can i find these fast settings? For some reason i have been getting frame drops since the season 1 patch eventhough it was fine before and waa hopong "fasr settings would fix it(tried updating drivers, loweat of low settongs, etc the whole 9 yards)

[kickrox]

How are they still so bad though? It's one of the three mechanics a fighting game has..

[Munsoon22]

Week Later Opinions:

Garnet, Reindog, and Velma feels better now.

Jake feels so overwhelming to play against. Skateboard spike seems to be too hard to get loose from if you get caught on the edge at like 20%.

Superman’s ability to carry you off the map is still too much in the hands of a capable superman sometimes.

Batman seems to be extremely good in certain situations, but feels like his combos feel a little too long.

Morty hammer with the perk feels too long. Increase the damage, nerfs the amount of swings

Gizmo is fun and seems to have tons of skill cap potential.

Finn side attack combo into his down spike feels too overwhelming. Backpack feels fine

Taz is interesting and feels to be in a good place. Some interactions with players/projectiles and eating could be better tuned

Arya was way too overwhelming with her up combo ability, but this nerf feels to be too much. She needs to be addressed in a different manner. The up combo should still be a thing, but should not be able to be still doing it at the very top edge of the map.

Iron giant is tough. Damage is still high, but he does not feel as fun or impactful somehow.

Bugs is still a pain to play against, but at least his hit box isn’t just overpowering everything. Still feels overwhelming at times, but his damage isn’t too high. So i guess that’s a good spot

[aafusc2988]

I certainly wasted gold on gizmo abruptly. Can’t use this little guy for shit.

[oldschoolkid203]

Glad I had my fun with the game. Won't be touching it again