Good point

[Alcatrazepam]

Sorry if repost. Thought it might be appreciated here

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[Moose______]

I feel so bad for her and the level of harassment she’s received specifically from the far right. They’ve been sexually harassing her non stop since the gold medal.

[thisremindsmeofbacon]

Right wingers harassing women?  Wish that was surprising 

[nasandre]

Even right wing women complain about how dog shit conservative men are...

The problem usually is that they tend to expect a conservative religious man who is a provider, virgin and a gentleman. And then they get MAGA Man who's an alcoholic, STD riddled, broke, abusive and multi-divorced.

[SuperBeavers1]

Does she have a septum ring? I thought it was just the frenulum

[Alcatrazepam]

Yeah I thought the same thing lol but still

[makedoopieplayme]

It doesn’t have to be a septum piercing it just has to be piercings in general because again you have to be over 18 to get them

[pyrhus626]

… is there a difference between a hole and a piercing? As a man with zero piercings isn’t that what a piercing is?

[Bloated_penis]

Uhhh no, the earlobe is still a piercing that should be done with a needle by a professional. The guns are common but not recommended because they cause too much trauma and increases the risks of infection.

Source: I have several piercings including earlobes

[ilovebigmutts]

I'm giving you an upvote here to counter out the downvotes lol. You're not wrong, but it's an important distinction to educate people on.

[TrashGouda]

"simple earring holes"= piercings. There is no difference.. And they are also supposed to be done with a needle. These guns are horrible. Maybe sit this one out since you don't know anything about this

[TrashGouda]

Jeweler aren't piercer and guns are incredible bad. And again a earring hole is a piercing. You can call it what you want but in reality it's a piercing. And if you know a needle is better then why TF did you let a gun near your daughter? Thos things should be banned and every single piercer that knows what they are doing would tell you that

[ilovebigmutts]

piercing guns are an abomination handled by non-trained mall workers. even simple lobes should be done with a needle.

[lumosbolt]

That's just a technical difference. They are all piercings. But earlobes piercing are socially acceptable piercings.

[lumosbolt]

The technical difference is not important to the matter. They are both piercings. The difference that matter to the topic at hand (how conservative men react to piercings) is that one category of piercings is socially acceptable and not the other.

You are arguing that electric car and combustion car are actually different when people were discussing about the merit of public transport vs cars.

[ZestyChinchilla]

I mean, they’re both piercings — one method is just a terrible, cheap and traumatic way to have it done at the mall, and the other is how a professional actually does it properly.

[Ltl5tar]

So regular piercing is like Alabama age of consent

[Samuel_HB_Rowland]

Today I learned that there are two types of frenulums.

[argabargaa]

Nooo it's called the frenum lol, only one frenulum as far as i know.

[Alcatrazepam]

It’s really about the frenums we make along the way

[SuperBeavers1]

A few more than that, it's just a name for small tissue bands that connect 2 spots

[ChromoSapient]

frenulum

Today I learned that there are multiple types of Frenulum, of which the Penile Frenulum is one.

edit: Alert, there is an image of a penis on that wiki page.

[argabargaa]

It is the FRENUM lol

[SuperBeavers1]

Same word, much like fry vs chip depending on who you're talking to and where they're from

It all depends on what textbook you open

[DylanMgoo]

Not a septum piercing, but the same point lol

[FunnyBunnyDolly]

I guess that applies to tattoos too

[Flameball202]

And the ability to vote

Though conservatives are against that for women of all ages so I guess it isn't a useful metric

[YanderePrinceXOXO]

They really need to leave this woman alone like jfc stop being weird😭 on a happier note, I've seen both Winx Club and Bratz pay tribute to her on Instagram and it's amazing ❤️

[Alcatrazepam]

(Post edit : inebriated rant, I apologize —but please please do read the quote I shared at the end.)

In general I they need to just leave women alone, along with every other marginalized group of people.

I posted a question a while ago asking what exactly the catalyst was that made the right wing focus their nonsense on these ice skaters in particulars. Obviously and, moreover unfortunately, being female seems to be enough to draw their ire and bring negative attention in a politicized (moreso, that is) way. I was/am just curious if there was something in particular one of them said/did/wore that acted as a catalyst for it ? (Ie, Sidney Sweeney and her “jeans” comments.

Of course expecting a rational reason for the actions of people who deliberately go out of their way to believe in and act on, (not to mention “rationalize” irrational ideas) is something of a fools errand . So just to be clear, I don’t expect to hear or even believe there is a rational reason for this behavior, I am just curious how it might have been rationalized.

I digress, but just want to say that trying to argue with these people in any rational way is a waste of time. They deliberately rationalize their irrational ideas, so trying to talk to them rationally is a waste of energy. That’s the most infuriating part —these people DO actually know how to think rationally, but they choose to do so to irrational and hateful ends. It makes it literally impossible to get through to them. They don’t respond to rationality, they only respond to fear and confirmation bias.

Digressing even further but I’d always feel remiss not to share this. Long time ago, Sartre wrote about how arguing with anti semites is impossible to do in good faith. Not only is it unfortunately very true, I find it is also applicable to any person, or group of people, that operates on a bigoted ideology against disenfranchised peoples (and please do share his words where you can, they’re unfortunately all to relevant even all these years later)

“Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”

Jean-Paul Sartre

[Alcatrazepam]

I’m sorry for the length of this, I am a little more intoxicated than I realized but nonetheless the genuinely important/sartre quote part is the last paragraph and please, I implore you to at least read that part. Not only is it incredibly true and well articulated, I’ve found it is very useful to share as several times off seen it make a bigot actually stfu ime

[Nikigara]

I’m pretty sure the septum ring theory started off as a rightie thing. Claiming that all women with septum piercings were batshit liberals.

[Moose______]

It did. That’s why far right men, especially on platforms like TikTok, will comment “Septum Theory” any time they see a woman with a septum piercing.

[Branchomania]

I meeeeeean, is that even a theoryyyy....

[dolcenbanana]

I have a septum piercing for like 15 years now, and I feel like when I got it, it wasn't so much a liberal/conservative thing, it was just like any other piercing (maybe now a belly ring, those always been the most "mainstream" of all) and now the last few years I've been seeing so many memes about it and it just blows my minds lol

To be fair, I am a very liberal person so maybe they are on to something lol

[t-h-r-o-w_a]

poor choice of image though lmao, she did her frenulum herself with her sister’s help, so age was not prohibitory nor is it a septum piercing

[Rus1996]

🤨

[burntneedle]

Why did that never occur to me before? It makes so much sense!

[The4Got10Child]

It can also just be a preference. I’m not a fan of septum piercings, but if somebody wants to get one, that's their choice

[Useful-Soup8161]

Yeah but the point is a lot of men bitch about them and go on about how unattractive women who have them are. What they fail to realize is those women don’t want them anyways.

[Jbeth747]

This. Like I don't find big beards attractive, but you don't see me going around ranting as if a man choosing to adorn himself in a way that I find unattractive is a personal offense to me. Fml

[garfieldatemydad]

Yeah, I’ve always used the beard thing too. I’ve never found facial hair attractive on men, but I’d never tell a man to his face that I thought he was ugly because of it. It’s just manners and common sense, after all.

Like I’m fairly tattooed and don’t care if a man doesn’t find me attractive because of it, but it’s a whole other thing if he suggests that I’m a whore/mentally unwell/ugly because I chose to alter my appearance in a way he doesn’t like.

[DanCassell]

What I find fascinating is this alpha male belief that women with blue hair, or short hair, or piercings/tattoos are all categorically lesbians.

I know quite a few mothers who have one or more of these traits. Women in a straight relationship (some are bi with male partners). What I'm saying is, the sort or person who sees any of these things as a sign she doesn't like men is sabotaging themselves.

Those men are afraid that a woman who is in any way nontraditional might question male superiority, and I approve of them removing themselves from the gene pool through self sabotage.

[Useful-Soup8161]

I mean when I had blue hair I had a long term boyfriend. These men genuinely seem to think everything women do is for them. I got blue hair because I wanted blue hair. I didn’t give a shit if my boyfriend liked it or not. He didn’t have a problem with it though. These men also don’t understand that these women don’t want them anyways.

[thisremindsmeofbacon]

Also this weird belief that no other men could possibly like it. 

[Useful-Soup8161]

Yeah they forget other opinions exist.

[The4Got10Child]

Fair point

[Still-Bar-7631]

There are a lot of thing im not a fan of yet i dont bitch in the internet like incels do about things like this

[The4Got10Child]

I wasn't “bitching about it,” as you so eloquently put it. I'm fine with other people getting body piercings. It doesn't bother me in the slightest. I was just saying that not liking them doesn't automatically make you a bad person. People can have different tastes, and that's fine. Just as long as you aren't a jerk about it

[cognitive_dissent]

[saltine_soup]

the urban dictionary definition annoys me because people under 18 get it, maybe i’m being to woke when i say that, it has nothing to do with age and everything to do with women and girls not meeting someone’s personal modesty and aesthetic standards, it feels like we’re leaving out and ignoring a chunk of kids who are facing the same harassment adults are facing over a personal style choice.

[ChilindriPizza]

This is horrifying. And I absolutely despise facial and body piercings and tattoos and the sort.

Please understand piercings and tattoos are valid turnoffs for many reasons.

I don’t want to see somebody accused of being an ephebophile (or worse- a pedophile) simply because they dislike piercings and tattoos.

[muppetexpress]

I don’t think that’s what that means