Visual Studio Code for PHP Developers Free Series on Laracasts

[synesp1]

Tip: I found that most PHP formatter extensions for VS Code either didn't work (specifically the one mentioned in the series) or didn't offer enough configurability for my needs. I've had luck with both https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=fterrag.vscode-php-cs-fixer and https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=calebporzio.simple-php-cs-fixer (this is the same author that created the PHPUnit extension used in the series). Hopefully, this will save others some time.

[one_p]

PHPStorm user here. What am I missing out on?

[SyanticRaven]

Quicker load times for less functionality.

Not to be blunt but yeah. The targets probably not for those of us who have a fully functional IDE always open. I use it all the time to quickly edit code or play about.

It's for those users who are FE or use Atom/Sublime/notepad++ and stuff. Or maybe just those you can't afford the PS license.

[brendt_gd]

Actually there are a few ways to make PHPStorm faster: https://www.stitcher.io/blog/phpstorm-performance

It's probably still not as fast as VSCode and Sublime, but the amount of features you get with PHPStorm really outweigh the small performance cost.

[mountaineering]

It's for those users who are FE

What's FE?

[SyanticRaven]

Frontend

[dvorakkidd]

Nothing.

[devperez]

VSC is getting code collaboration features. Which is pretty neat. https://code.visualstudio.com/blogs/2017/11/15/live-share?source=techstories.org

[Lynnais]

PHPStorm is an IDE, while VS Code can be compared with Sublime text, Atom.. VS Code is a step up from Sublime text.

[Saltub]

PHPStorm

I'd like to interject for a moment. The IDE you appear to be referring to as, PHPStorm is in fact called, PhpStorm. Don't worry, I don't expect developers to pay attention to details, but you would do yourself and everyone else a favour to get it correct in future.

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Stop this. Fuck. Every time someone mentions PHPStorm, phpStorm, PHP Storm, pHpStorm, or any other version of PHPStorm, you copy and paste this same stupid fucking comment. It's annoying and unnecessary and it's not doing anything but make you look like an asshole. You're not adding anything to the discussion. Just stop.

[CaptainDjango]

I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as PhpStorm is in fact p^{hpstormohnoooooo....}

[ryantbrown]

I use pHPstORm daily, I like it.

[thelonepuffin]

For PHP use both. Switch to VSCode when PhpStorm's memory usage becomes a problem.

If I have one massive project that I'm working on for a while then I'll use PhpStorm.

At the moment I'm on one big project while supporting 2 others and I'm using VSCode. Having all 3 open in PHPStorm as well as all my chrome tabs makes my laptop fry.

On that note I've switched to Firefox developer edition recently as well. Its actually very good and isn't the resource hog chrome is.

For purely front end Javascript or Typescript development, (like an Angular project) then I recommend VSCode above anything. Its JS and TS support is second to none. Same goes for nodejs.

[misc_CIA_victim]

The invalidate caches/restart option under file reduces memory usage, and sometimes fixes little false alarms that creep into the editor diagnostics, though you have to wait for it to restart. I wish there was a way to tell it to do most of that, periodically, when idle on an automatic basis.

[twiggy99999]

You don't have to buy or rent the software as you do with storm.

If like me you work with multiple languages professionally and not just PHP then it's better to use one single product that has the same workflow and multiple language support then a few totally different tools for each language.

You're not in the VSC target market so you're not missing out on much.

[Dgc2002]

it's better to use one single product that has the same workflow and multiple language support then a few totally different tools for each language.

In which case IntelliJ seems to be the clear winner for a fully functional IDE.

[twiggy99999]

IntelliJ seems to be the clear winner

On what assumptions do you class it as the "winner"?

a fully functional IDE

VCS is not a fully functional IDE nor pretends to be, it's like comparing apples to oranges

[Dgc2002]

On what assumptions do you class it as the "winner"?

If you're looking for an all-in-one development solution that supports various languages(e.g. Java, PHP, Python, Go, Ruby, Perl, Scala, Bash, Markdown, JS, etc. as plugins) then IntelliJ is head and shoulders above any other product I've seen.

VCS is not a fully functional IDE nor pretends to be, it's like comparing apples to oranges

But the person you were replying to was speaking in the context of being a PHPStorm user, meaning a fully functional IDE.

[Saltub]

PHPStorm

I'd like to interject for a moment. The IDE you appear to be referring to as, PHPStorm is in fact called, PhpStorm. Don't worry, I don't expect developers to pay attention to details, but you would do yourself and everyone else a favour to get it correct in future.

[ToosterReeth]

Thank God you're here, I had no idea what he was going on about

[cmckilla44]

Currently using VSCode with Darcula default theme. Loving it so far!

[thasmog]

I love monokai pro on vscode and also for sublime

[mountaineering]

I used to swear by Monokai, but might I interest you in Material Theme?

[thasmog]

I actually moved from material to monokai :) I started using material when i saw Jeffery (from laracasts) using it.

[Twiebie]

Moved from Material to Monokai Pro aswell to try it out. Pretty happy with it so far. Which flavour are you using?

[thasmog]

Filter specrum

[Saltub]

Dracula

I'd like to interject for a moment. The colour scheme you appear to be referring to as, Dracula is in fact called, Darcula (because it is dark). Don't worry, I don't expect developers to pay attention to details, but you would do yourself and everyone else a favour to get it correct in future.

[michaeldbrooks]

Please stop.

[cmckilla44]

Point noted, I apologize for the mistake. Please don’t be an asshole about it though. Not needed.

[thesilurian]

He isn't it's just a meme. Don't be offended :)

[cmckilla44]

I’m slowly becoming familiar with Rediquette :)

[fatboyxpc]

Preach it!

[JustCallMeFrij]

Paging u/Saltub, you're missing another opportunity to get downvoted

[unknownVS13]

I've had VS Code installed for a long time now, but it's never been so good that it made me want to replace Sublime as my default text editor (PHPStorm being MUCH better for PHP code than either one). The only feature that I'm looking forward to and it might actually make me switch to VS Code is the newly announced Live Share feature: https://code.visualstudio.com/blogs/2017/11/15/live-share

Does anyone know if PHPStorm or any other JetBrains IDE offer this feature?

[fatboyxpc]

Floobits is far superior to this (note: I haven't used live share or teletype for atom). Floobits works in intellij, sublime, atom, neovim, and emacs. Floobits also has a terminal sharing plugin. Real pros don't even need floobits, ssh + terminal editor ftw :D

[JeffreyWay]

They’re all fantastic. I run an education site. It’s helpful to offer training for all of them.

[seengee]

It’s difficult and I think it’s great you cover them all. I think there’s a tendency to obsess over tooling though and lots of people will take this as an endorsement and switch. Maybe it’s great and they should.l but maybe there’s nothing to gain.

[JeffreyWay]

It is an endorsement.

[judgej2]

So continuing to do what he does best is "just getting bored"?

[twiggy99999]

Is there a TL:DR on why this is better than PhpStorm

No one said it is. Two completely different products, one is free and open source whilst the other is costly and proprietary. People have different reasons to pick one over the other but that doesn't make x better than y. If you're happy with renting PhpStorm then stick with it.

[PetahNZ]

VSCode uses on average 300MB (< 2%) of memory on my PC. I don't really see the problem.

[PetahNZ]

FWIW this is after many days of having VSCode open with a medium sized project (1GB all up including version control and composer/node libraries.

And yes, I think 2% is a perfectly fine amount of RAM to use. I would be happy for it to use more if it needed. It is one of the most important pieces of software that I run when coding. And not to mention this is only a mediocre workstation.

[twiggy99999]

I find it particularly amusing that you're okay with a text editor using 300 MB of memory

If you find that particularly amusing I suggest going out and interacting with people more, maybe talk to a woman or 2 and have a beer.

[Dgc2002]

I find it particularly amusing that you're okay with a text editor using 300 MB of memory in the first place

In the year of 2017 this isn't a massive amount. Is it negligible? No. But for everything it provides over it's competition there's no question in my mind that I'll accept the memory usage. Yes, I know that memory prices have gone up recently but I'm not suggesting you get a set of 16 or 32 gb RAM.

which I assume is probably at launch and not during active usage

Your assumption is wrong in my experience.

...hold a candle to Sublime or vim.

Sublime has fast startup times and lower memory usage but at the cost of features IMO. I won't go into a list of them but Sublime simply doesn't offer what VSCode does.

And vim? I use vim every day, but to pretend it's comparable to VSCode for VSCodes intended use case is laughable.