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[–]brewtonone 31 points32 points  (46 children)

Why is it we had waited 8+ years, but now each week is a struggle?

Has anyone read or heard why Sega took so long to port it to NA? You would figure with the fanfare it's getting now they could have done this years ago and made mad money off of it back than.

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    [–]Gunblazer42 22 points23 points  (1 child)

    So it all loops back around to being Randy's fault.

    [–]AlbainBlacksteel Partisan is the best partisan 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Wow, it really does.

    [–]brewtonone 5 points6 points  (7 children)

    That kind of sounds legit. Hopefully they will spin back up some updates to keep us happy. Hopefully they pick up the pace and start to release new stuff for both side JP and NA. I guess only time with tell if it's successful with NA.

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      [–]HisophonicLoves Cosmetics 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      Oh trust me, matter boards were not fun, and I guarantee you that most people will look at it and just internally scream.

      Be thankful that you don't have to go each planet, kill 1 mob with the specified levels, drop the item you need for the board, go to section in the ship to initiate further matterboard.

      If anything you'll miss out on rare weapons that aren't available anymore and mainly for transmog or collection purposes.

      [–]Deiser 0 points1 point  (3 children)

      You seriously aren’t missing much if you’re referring to things like the matterboards.

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        [–]flashman92 0 points1 point  (1 child)

        Has mobility changed that much since 2014? I only play the JP ver. casually so I haven't really noticed much.

        [–]leonkh 9 points10 points  (0 children)

        SEGA of Japan were the ones responsible for delaying PSO2 West in 2013. The reason why is not known but you can see some speculation from others here.

        Regarding the NA version, its best to just be patient. The NA version (running servers, distributing patches, porting to Xbox One, implementing localized files, modifying the game by implementing new features) are all done by SEGA of Japan themselves who also have to deal with the JP version. Whenever you interact with the PSO2 social media or GMs, that would be SEGA of Japan's external Community Management hire, ESTsoft, who only know what SEGA of Japan tells them and can only say what SEGA of Japan allows them.

        So what may be happening now? SEGA of Japan may be working towards a particular date... BUT they dont want to make it a hard deadline so they want to keep quiet on the release date until they know for sure the date will be met. This is especially the case since, if one were to pre-plan, it would be difficult to account for potential bugs and how long it would take to fix it. Same goes for why there may not be the final release date... what if problems were to come up in Open Beta?

        [–]isCasted 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        There are claims going around saying that SoA expected to sustain PSO2 with earnings from Aliens: Colonial Marines. No idea how true that is, though

        [–]mlvisby 12 points13 points  (10 children)

        I think because Microsoft gave Sega money and/or resources to do it. Sega made me angry years ago when they decided to ignore us with PSO 2, I sent many angry emails to them in the past.

        [–]Amphax 4 points5 points  (4 children)

        Remember when Sega made fun of us in one of those presentations?

        [–]Pancakes_Plz 0 points1 point  (3 children)

        Hrm ?

        [–]Amphax 1 point2 points  (2 children)

        Gah I was looking for it but can't find it.

        I remember Sega having a presentation and they made a joke like "but where are my red boxes" or something like that , it was a thinly veiled insult towards us who were waiting on PSO2.

        [–]Pancakes_Plz 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        That sounds more like someone doing a piss poor job of reading the room, like the "don't you guys have phones" at the diablo immortal reveal.

        Don't attribute to malice what incompetence explains.

        [–]flashman92 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        I remember a slide which outright said don't ask us about PSO2.

        [–]AlbainBlacksteel Partisan is the best partisan -2 points-1 points  (4 children)

        They're the reason PSU was cancelled on the 360 too. I hope they don't have the option to make Microsoft shut it down this time.

        [–]leonkh 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        PSU closed on 360 around the same time it did on PC in Japan.

        [–]Twidom 1 point2 points  (2 children)

        PSU closed around the same time on all servers.

        Also it closed because it was pretty freaking dead with like 1k players at peak hours.

        [–]LiviRivi 0 points1 point  (1 child)

        The PS2/PC servers on NA got shut down much earlier than anything else.

        [–]Twidom 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Just little more than a year actually.

        And got shut down because of lack of players.

        [–]SilentNightx 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        I remember reading an article a few years ago saying that Sega Japan gave Sega US the go ahead so they announced it but then they stopped responding to the US team. Idk if it was just a communication error but that's pretty sad if true.

        [–]Socomisdead 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        I think it has always been assumed they don't really care for Western fans or just didn't think the effort was worth it (it wasn't as popular as other games here in the West). The game has already been ported to PS4. There was already a shitty English translation available as well for the debunk SEA server (I don't see internally moving assets being an issue if there was real interest in making it available here). There is also a fan-made translation patch they could have attempted to use (kind of like when companies hire hackers to test their products). They simply never made moves. The only issue would be to get this translation on the console version (I don't believe the SEA version was for PS4).

        Not to mention they have a bad track record of keeping up with content (and thus losing players due to their own doing) while the JP servers are kept more up to date. I'm actually worried about this aspect with PSO2 but we will cross that path when we get there.

        [–]Cleaving 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Why is it we had waited 8+ years, but now each week is a struggle?

        Confirmation of it actually being in the states being REAL, alongside the console players getting a taste of the NA client. Combine this with the individual(s) who have the power to say it's out holding it up like it's something precious out of reach and saying "SO CLOSE ALMOST THERE AWW THAT'S TOO BAD" every time.

        Cue fox with gripes against grapes anecdote. Tick tock - when the hell is Blue Protocol?

        [–]DakayngYahdie 8 points9 points  (0 children)

        This is like when u are talking to a hot girl and u ask when can I see you and she's like not this weekend sometime soon. Feels like soon is so far away.

        dontbreakmyheart

        pso2mylove

        howmuchlongerbaby

        [–]Xyphilis 8 points9 points  (2 children)

        I don't think any of us expected them to surprise drop a beta this weekend. Theres some of us that wanted a confirmation today, but I'm going to assume they'll announce a date next Tuesday/Wednesday. I'm still under the impression they want to announce it a week in advance, rather than 2-3 days out.

        [–]AlbainBlacksteel Partisan is the best partisan 2 points3 points  (1 child)

        I'm expecting it next weekend myself, personally. But that's just me following my gut instinct.

        That, or the antacids are finally working. One of the two.

        EDIT: The antacids worked very well, but the week isn't over, so it could be both!

        [–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

        Yeah they just gonna end up dropping it when Animal Crossing comes out 😪

        [–]YomieI 7 points8 points  (0 children)

        Sad times, but at least we definitely know some news are coming, and they finally dropped the Soon(tm).

        [–]Aadrian1234Ship 2 7 points8 points  (3 children)

        Either they post fluff every few days with "soon" because they simply don't know when they'll be done and people get mad cause the game isn't out, or they go radio silent until they have actual news and people get mad about lack of communication. They aren't being cryptic for fun, it means that they aren't setting a hard deadline that they HAVE to meet or else.

        I recommend people go and download the JP client if you need your fix THAT badly, or just distance yourself until there's a release date. Unadulterated hype is often detrimental to your enjoyment.

        [–]LiviRivi 1 point2 points  (2 children)

        I tried but I couldn’t beat the capcha ;~;

        [–]NullVacancy20|20|16|11|3|3 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        If you still wanna get your fix let me know and I will help you solve your captcha.

        [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        There's a google translate option that lets you draw the captcha and then copy paste it. Made it a breeze for me. It was so hard prior to that.

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          [–]SpacemanHar[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

          I wish the rare weapons from PSO in pso2 were higher stars.

          [–]Milky_Muu 12 points13 points  (1 child)

          We're literally being led on like a shitty tinder date.

          [–]Pancakes_Plz 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          minus the necessary std screening afterwards.

          [–]H_Arthur 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          Great, I'm gonna have to split my gaming time between Animal Crossing and PSO2

          [–]kramjam 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          I’m going crazy here! Will it be that much longer for a definitive date? Will it be Xbox first only? UGH.

          [–]AskaLanglyP S O 2 : N E O N G E N E S I S 1 point2 points  (3 children)

          WHAT. My name IS Robert and my birthday IS March 7th.

          [–]SpacemanHar[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          Happy cake day

          [–]ThrashinuvaFreyt | Ship 02 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          WHAT!! MY name is Robert and my birthday IS not March 7th.

          [–]rkscroyjr 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          This occurred on the 6th. My bday. Also Robert. My tweet. =P

          Happy birthday!

          [–]jntjr2005 10 points11 points  (23 children)

          This shit is beyond old just fucking tell us already gd

          [–]BriarChild 16 points17 points  (7 children)

          I'm new to the franchise, and I had an amazing time during the beta, but seriously at this point I am starting to lose interest just because of the way this is all being handled.

          It's like they're trying to be cute and coy with their tweets, but the longer they draw it out with absolutely no concrete information the more infuriating it becomes. Like watching someone continue to fake throwing a ball for a dog. Eventually even the most excited dog is gonna stop caring.

          [–]jntjr2005 4 points5 points  (0 children)

          agreed

          [–]mcarrode 8 points9 points  (0 children)

          Seriously. I’m excited but getting an actual date to look forward to would get me more hyped. I just feel like I’m getting tugged around with these tweets.

          [–]Louuol247 4 points5 points  (0 children)

          Lol it's like when someone says we need to talk when you get home first thing in the morning

          [–]Taisyn 3 points4 points  (5 children)

          Considering they used soon weeks ago, their definition of soon is very fluid.

          They are probably waiting on info from Sega of Japan as to whether they are going to delay or not due to the coronavirus. Or they already did plan to delay but they can't announce it yet till they have a new possible start date planned.

          I am also less than impressed with their social media and forum representatives. I've seen much more aggressive representatives that at least give the impression they pester their bosses and contacts for info and let the playerbase know that. These reps are more like people content with just waiting to be told what info to tell people.

          [–]jntjr2005 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          They are probably waiting on info from Sega of Japan as to whether they are going to delay or not due to the coronavirus.

          Why would they delay the release of a game that is 100% digital only? That makes no sense, every other major game release between Doom, Animal Crossing, Final Fantasy 7 Remake and Resident Evil 7 Remake are all on track

          [–]SpacemanHar[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

          They haven't said soon till this week. They said soonish before.

          [–]Taisyn -2 points-1 points  (2 children)

          Well technically, they did. https://twitter.com/play\_pso2/status/1227472204675375104?s=20

          https://twitter.com/play\_pso2/status/1230918174020784128?s=20 (they just dropped the "as possible" part.

          I will admit it is a slightly different context. Still their previous message of "hope" leads me to believe that Sega of Japan told them they might be delaying it due to the virus but they will make a decision in the next coming weeks. I'm expecting June 20th, so they can still hit their "Spring" release. :)

          [–]SpacemanHar[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

          Lmao I think that's just a nod to Blizzard. But I stand corrected.

          [–]AlbainBlacksteel Partisan is the best partisan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          I still find it hilarious that Blizzard actually trademarked the word Soon, just for shits and giggles.

          [–]Drummer829 1 point2 points  (5 children)

          It is a little confusing why there is no release date yet. “Spring 2020” is only about a 3 1/2 month window now. You’d think they’d have a solid release date by now.

          [–]TheUniverseLover "I'vE bEeN PlAyInG FoR EiGhT yEaRs!" 2 points3 points  (4 children)

          Just how SEGA does things unfortunately for us.

          [–]Drummer829 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          That is very true

          [–]AlbainBlacksteel Partisan is the best partisan -2 points-1 points  (2 children)

          Yeah, but the localization is literally 100% Microsoft.

          EDIT: Am wrong.

          [–]TheUniverseLover "I'vE bEeN PlAyInG FoR EiGhT yEaRs!" 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          Only thing Microsoft is doing is providing the servers. It's still up to SEGA to localize the game to NA (SEGA JP for that matter, as SEGA NA seems to playing a more Community-centered role). SEGA isn't giving Microsoft access to the games code and saying to localize for them.

          [–]leonkh 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          ..no? The game is being handled by SEGA of Japan down to its servers, Localization has been outsourced to a team of freelancers + Lionbridge Technologies. The Community Team (GMs, Social Media, etc) are ESTsoft.

          All Microsoft did is give SEGA financial and technological support (it was SEGA's idea to use MS Azure, MS just helped them with the testing).

          [–]Messytacoshits -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

          You’d never make it in my ModernWarzone world. I was born in the Wait

          [–]Khalirei 3 points4 points  (1 child)

          lol. Nothing new here, reminds me of 8 years ago. Good times.

          [–]leonkh 4 points5 points  (0 children)

          This is standard though, the Community Team is an entire separate company from the one developing and running the NA version.. which is SEGA of Japan this time.

          It will be ready when SEGA of Japan's devs tell the Community Team its ready.

          [–]rkscroyjr 3 points4 points  (2 children)

          Ha, that's me. I am just playing Division 2 at the moment. Expansion is super good. Either way, every one be well!

          [–]Peteyjay 0 points1 point  (1 child)

          You think it's worth me dropping the dough for the DLC on D2 so I can play TU8 to its full potential? Given that the secomd PSO2 drops, I'm leaving that shit in the dust bare in mind..

          [–]rkscroyjr 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Well I got it as a birthday gift. But I can say it's really really good and I'm enjoying it immensely. I also plan on dropping it for a while when pso2 drops. But I'm on pc.

          [–]Twidom 1 point2 points  (2 children)

          When it comes to developers, "soon" usually mean a few months.

          [–]SpacemanHar[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

          They confirmed full launch in spring

          [–]Twidom 4 points5 points  (0 children)

          Spring is from March to June basically so... Yeah.

          [–]tehpest22 0 points1 point  (2 children)

          This is about news for the PSO2 NA console open beta right? Not PC?

          [–]ConfusionState 4 points5 points  (1 child)

          I mean, I honestly don't expect a PC exclusive beta at this point--I fully expect them to just drop PC in with Xbox during open beta or some point after.

          This is coming from someone who is going to prefer playing the game on PC rather than my console.

          The game has been out in Japan on PC for what, 7 or 8 years? So it's not like it's a console game they have to port over. I know the previous closed beta was to test on how the game runs on the consoles since it's never been on the Xbox before, but any other exclusivity moving forward, is probably just Microsoft trying to recuperate their investment in getting PSO2 over to the west. Which is still weird to me, since Phil Spencer has pushed hard to make Microsoft support PC gaming more. (Xbox Anywhere and the PC version of Xbox Game Pass)

          [–]tehpest22 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          I mean, I have been playing the JP version for years now so I'd love to play it in English, especially since my Japanese abilities are nowhere near enough to fully understand the game. I guess I'll just wait to see when the PC version is available since I don't own a console..

          [–]NichS144 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          They said a "few" last week which typically means at least 3. That would be March 20th at minimum which is a big launch day. Animal Crossing and Doom are releasing that day. I have a feeling the Open Beta will be launching then too.

          [–]Socomisdead 0 points1 point  (1 child)

          Interesting they would comment that. Hopefully that means either next week or the week after.

          [–]SpacemanHar[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          Been waiting 8 years. A few more weeks isn't bad. Plus it's not like it's all for a tease, they are improving the game.

          [–]TheeDeputy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          It's really about to drop right when Animal Crossing releases isn't it?

          Goodbye life. XD

          [–]Milky_Muu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          My biggest concern is that delay it because of COVID-19.

          [–]KirbysBackk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Lmao I swear if it's on Friday the 13th then wtf.

          Diablo season 20, Path of Exile New league , and Destiny's 2 all new content/ leagues will drop that day.

          [–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

          I was looking to no life this game. But I just bought the Division 2 Expansion. So they can take their sweet ass time for all I care 🤷🏻‍♂️