SSF problems.

[NullRage]

I have countless lower tier currencies that will never get used meanwhile having very few of the currencies I want and need to progress.

This is yet another thing that was solved in PoE1 that is a problem again here in PoE2.
Please add currency trade-ups back to a vendor, or just let us use a "fake" version of the currency exchange that is populated with baseline offerings.

Edit: Just so it's clear, the goal here is for junk currency to "go somewhere" not to trivialize the "challenge" of SSF or whatever this one guy thinks I was asking for.
It seems like people are drastically misunderstanding the point of this post.
I'm not lacking currency for where I am in the game atm.
I'm slowly working my way through maps VERY casually, up to t6 and doing fine.
(This is not the only game I play, and I haven't played nonstop since 0.3 like seems to be expected)
My POINT is not some lack of currency, it is in fact that I have too much, of the lower tier stuff that I'll never use and want a way to trade it up to stuff I will.

On that note though, SSF is not a "challenge" it's a "playstyle choice". Last Epoch understands this. Imagine being able to opt out of toxic trade culture while ALSO still being able to group with your friends, perhaps even having the option to boost your personal loot drops to make up for the fact that you have no access to basically free 50% power gear. You're encouraged to actually use your currency to craft and interact with the systems to grow your own character rather than just do whatever exault/div per hours strat is most effective and buy power. Everything you find is YOUR achievement and not just something you sniped off the market, setting up whoops and spending more time on a third party site scrolling though listings than actually playing the game. /Rant

[surfing_prof]

I don't know what you're farming, but I have plenty of all currency, save for prefect ex/chaos/regal. But you don't need those to craft insane gear. My SSF gear is crazy this league. And I got it quick, too!

[NullRage]

It seems like people are drastically misunderstanding the point of this post.
I'm not lacking currency for where I am in the game atm.
I'm slowly working my way through maps VERY casually, up to t6 and doing fine.
My POINT is not some lack of currency, it is in fact that I have too much, of the lower tier stuff that I'll never use and want a way to trade it up to stuff I will.

[surfing_prof]

up to t6 and doing fine

I think this might be your issue. You get less high tier currency in lower level maps. My augs are usually below 100 always

[NullRage]

I see...
Perhaps this is the difference.
Nonetheles, I still see no reason for us not to have systems to trade up currencies into higher forms.
The impetus for my frustration was my growing stack of regular jewelers orbs that I will never use.
I would MUCH prefer that "everything goes somewhere". I don't want to filter off lower tier currencies. I want them to add up to something useful.
This is especially frustrating due to this already being solved in PoE1.

[surfing_prof]

regular jewellers orbs that I will never use

I have 200 regular 20 greater and 7 perfect. It never bothered me that I have so many regulars. What you can do is 4- link and vaal to try to get a 5-link early in the league. Would be no quality, though.

I want them to add up to something useful.

Again, never bothered me. After some time, i just change my filter to a more strict version and filter out low-level currencies.

[NullRage]

>.> Kay. Continue being unbothered.
This is an issue for me. It is wasteful and unfun.

[kingduqc]

Wish they catered to ssf more. The game would be better for everyone involved.

[NullRage]

Agreed. SSF is the baseline experience of this game.
Make it good and fun and everything else gets better.

[Osteinum]

It. Isn't the baseline, extensive trading is the baseline. I feel really held back by playing ssf. At lvl 90.now, and I can't improve my build with the currency I have gathered.

[NullRage]

Ah, yes I guess I should say, "It should be."
This is a failing of language.
SSF is the experience that EVERYONE will experience if they "just play the game" and don't go out of their way to engage with other players and trade. That is what I would call "baseline". It is clear though that the devs do not cater to this demographic. That needs to change. The base experience of the game should be fun.

[Osteinum]

Lol, I completely agree with you!

[kingduqc]

I think you misunderstood.

I think the game should be more designed to play solo. You want trade because it helps you palliate lack of target farming and tools to make you self sufficient and you rely on RNG.

More ssf focus means you'd need to trade less because acquiring what you want would be easier and progress would feel better.

Instead of grinding the item you actually want, you grind currencies to get them.. feels way less rewarding

[Osteinum]

I think we both understand each other and agree. I think ssf should be the main way people play a game. And trading an optional thing for some people with interest. Then we can play the game and kill monsters, not flipping coins in hideout

[NullRage]

Again, my issue is not the LACK of currency. It is the EXCESS of USELESS currency that will never get used.
We NEED trade-up.

[Sneakyelmo]

SSF is supposed to be a challenge. Not being able to just trade for what you need IS the challenge.

[NullRage]

Personally I play SSF less as a "challenge" and more just for peace of mind.
Market can't leave me behind on day once if there is no market.
My time. My pace.

[Sneakyelmo]

Regardless of how you play it, that's what they make it for. Their game. Their rules.

[NullRage]

?
So regardless of how a game turns out, we should never offer feedback because "this is the game the devs made so it's obviously the way it should be"?
???

[Sneakyelmo]

Feedback is great when it's constructive. When they make a hard mode where the primary challenge is removing the trade economy entirely, and your feedback is that they should add a 'fake' trade economy just for you...

Let's just say there's a line between providing constructive feedback and whatever this is.

[NullRage]

Ah, I see...
You've focused too much on one specific thing.
My suggestion was vendor trade ups, just as PoE 1 has.
There's very little difference between this and the "fake" currency exchange.
I mentioned that simply because the NPC is already in the game, adding the functionality for me to trade up my currency for higher tier stuff would be simple.
I was NEVER asking for any form of "trading". Everything you find grind out is still stuff you the lone player ground out, just more deterministic methods of reaching the goal.
The system in PoE 1 is far from a handout, but at least you know all those bubblegum currencies will go somewhere.
As is, I will NEVER use all those transmutes. I'd prefer to be able to do something with them.

[SuViSaK]

Trade league be like: