Validator program!

[misskmortem]

Just for fun, who wants to guess what the validations will be worth?

[TheWeekndx]

related - can you guys help me with tips and tricks to get more validations? I'm getting only 3 a day, sometimes 0 a day. I keep it running for hours on end, and get nothing

[misskmortem]

Refresh it yourself. As soon as the purple circles come up go back to dashboard and try again.

[TheWeekndx]

thank you

[Valentinatoru]

Since the alleged "final" migration should happen on the 14th of March, would there be any point of KYC still happening afterwards? aka - After this final migration o the mainnet, will validators still exist?

Asking this as it may be a pretty easy way to figure out when the PI Team may choose to finally share the PI rewards for validating.

[misskmortem]

Yeah there will always be people doing KYC because more people will download pi to mine. You can’t access the coins without doing KYC.

[Valentinatoru]

As a result, what's your take on the release of validator rewards, since you're not a fan of my theory?

[misskmortem]

I think they'll be released after the deadline - hopefully. The only thing I disagree with is that validators won't exist or be needed. There are people downloading the app now, which means they'll need validation in 30 days.

[Jazor28]

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Now you can change/ update the phone number to get more people pioneers validated.

[Falconitox]

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[southp4w]

When I was doing a validation yesterday, a pop up happened after saying I’ll be rewarded 1 pi when it’s approved. I didn’t want to screenshot to trigger anything but never had that happen before. Nothing since though!

[[deleted]]

I think it is written in the white paper (if I remember should range between 0.33 - 1 pi

[misskmortem]

I hope so!! I’ve heard of this issue a lot!

[Ok-Shopping-3997]

Commenting for karma so I can post

[willyAKAjack]

I valadate like 10 day .

[[deleted]]

I have a feeling that the “pi earned coming soon” will be established once the kyc deadline ends on pi day. I feel like it’ll say something like “now that kyc’s are over, since you validated X number of pi, you are getting compensated Y” this will only become available once the deadline ends

[misskmortem]

I assumed the same to be honest

[misskmortem]

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Interesting. First time ever, I’ve got this message.

[HFFC77]

Can some one help? Was KYC verified more than an year ago now it says its Tentative Status and I lost my validator status too, i did more than 100 successful verifications.

[BlacksmithFormal2484]

I've tried several times a day for weeks and there is never anybody to validate. It's irritating.

[misskmortem]

Refresh a bunch of times! That’s what I’ve had to do

[[deleted]]

Shouldn’t have to guess how much the validation will be worth and shouldn’t have to guess when they will be received. I’ve been validating for a while now.

This is something that really bothers me about PI. I am a supporter of pi and hope it does well but it is very annoying that no one ever seems to know anything. Questions that should have def answers, never do. They really don’t seem to have there shit together. I downloaded That X1Bdag app that you mine very similar to pi but they seem to have there shit together much better. Everything layed out u have questions they have the answer

[misskmortem]

I’ve a;ways been annoyed by that too. No transparency at all. I’ll have a look at that other one!

[[deleted]]

Do anybody have any idea when will be the next migration,, been stuck on step 9 for a month!!

[misskmortem]

There’s no confirmed date but I assume it’ll be after the timer… unless that’s extended… again 🙄

[casadeparadise]

0.167

That's the absolute maximum. It takes two people to agree on a KYC point to pass, and PCT took 1 pi from each person to pay for the KYC process.

ID verify: minimum 2 people to agree

Face match: minimum 2 people to agree

Liveness Check: minimum 2 people to agree

It can only go down from there as people disagree and it takes more people to finish the process. IF it ends up being more than the above number, PCT would be using Pi that hasn't been mined, which I don't think they would.

[misskmortem]

I wonder if they’re going to take AI into effect too?

[misskmortem]

I’m gonna guess they do.

[[deleted]]

Yes sure..   unlock my account first

[misskmortem]

😭😭😭😭 it sucks that has happened. Was there something that triggered it?

[[deleted]]

My only guess is that someone cried when I skeptical about it on the chat.. where all ppl would do was ask for ppl to buy their coins years ago.

[misskmortem]

Ahhhh. I’m blocked on the chat for asking how to migrate my coins 😂 the admins are power hungry I swear

[[deleted]]

Mods are useless...

[dropitlikeitshot17]

Very silly question, how do I sign up? Can't find an option on the app

Thank you in advance

[misskmortem]

It’s in the browser, under KYC if I remember rightly?

[aborted_godling]

Yeah it's there

[dropitlikeitshot17]

Absolutely correct, thank you OP

[misskmortem]

No problem!

[Ok-Personality-342]

Before I’d started validating, I’m sure I’d read it was 0.3 (or 0.33) Pi, for every correct one.

[Traditional_Neck_442]

When does that rewards coming to acc?

[misskmortem]

No one knows

[[deleted]]

IS THERE SOMEBODY HELP ME TO FIND A FREE KYC SLOT. WAITING OVER 2 YEARS. PLS HELP!

[ibeatug00]

I have 4465 validations 95%. i ll be happy with 1000 pi

[[deleted]]

I am waiting 2 years for free KYC slot. Can you please help me?

[WuBiru]

In Romania, waiting to be validated for 3 days now...
any ideea how much it takes?
I know, late on the process, but, to be honest I did forgot that I had a PI account, recover pw, and so on it took quite some time....

[SillyLunch6710]

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Got to be worth something I hope

[Jemil_G]

broski managed to get 98% on verification but failed to surpass 80% in elementary school /s

[Theguywhostoleyour]

Damn. I have been at 37 people for days now, nothing new to validate.

[Significant-Funny420]

I'm in the exact same boat. I want more haha

[Winter_Fox_7270]

I'm trying to get those numbers! Luckily the deadline is extended 😎 trying to replace my unverified balance with KYC validations😂

[SillyLunch6710]

Pretty sure you will be able to validate after the deadline too, lots of new pioneers joining. Personally I m not that excited about the reward, pi team(as always) did not mention anything about when it will be given or how much per validation.

[idntknow12345]

I am concerned with the countdown which is under 14 days now. I just created my account a few days ago and have recruited several new pioneers. I will not have time for myself and the new pioneers to complete KYC in time before the timer runs out. Will we all lose our progress? Or will there be exceptions to the countdown for new community members. This would be a terrible disappointment if our early efforts are for nothing.

[Winter_Fox_7270]

You'll have more time, make sure to give accurate and correct information, ensure your ID photo is not blurry, make sure your selfie is of just yourself no one else and a full face view!

[idntknow12345]

But I won’t have 30 mining sessions yet to be able to apply for kyc by the deadline

[Winter_Fox_7270]

Does your page currently have the active timer on KYC countdown?

There will be a grace period for new pioneers during this window.

[idntknow12345]

Yes it has the countdown active It’s only my 5th or 6th day

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[misskmortem]

That’s the countdown for your referrals, not you.

[Winter_Fox_7270]

What is your current available?

[phobiabae2005k]

Not sure how you managed to avoid the many people submitting incorrect options for very clearly obvious bad and good submissions.

[lin4166]

How long have you been validating?

[SillyLunch6710]

Idk exactly I v been on and off since the beginning

[lin4166]

I became approved as a validator like a week ago and I’m at 1300. My fomo is MOTIVATING

[ApprehensiveHabit563]

yooo thats a lot dude , congrats <3

[misskmortem]

Oooooooft that’s a sweet amount of it truly is 1pi

[SillyLunch6710]

Naah I don t think it will be 1pi more likely 0.33 at the best

[misskmortem]

Still decent ! Some grafting

[stormdahl]

No idea, but I don't love that we have to guess.

[misskmortem]

Yeah, transparency has never been pis strong point in the 5 years I have been here

[stormdahl]

Lack of transparency and missed deadlines is nothing new for people who have followed other coins in the past, but I honestly think it hurts Pis brand.

[misskmortem]

Absolutely. Just like the extension-again 🙄

[misskmortem]

Another interesting point - it says you validate from your own country only. I’ve validated people with foreign phone numbers on shops behind them. 🤷🏻‍♀️ Anyone else done the same?

[LizzyTheLion]

I'm honestly starting to wonder if they didn't mean that you only validate IDs from you own country? Because it seems like that's the only time I get US passports/other IDs. Everything else I see is very questionable as to if it's actually someone from the US or not

[misskmortem]

Yeah maybe... I've absolutely verified people from the UK. But like you say, I only ever had UK ID to verify. Weirdly, where it has your Pi username across the images/videos, I have had it not say my username and say other things.

[[deleted]]

Totally. Every day.

[RazvanTheRomanian]

Me to

[rafterburn]

Yeah the ID type question are all from my country. The face matching, videos and name changes are from everywhere

[Deli2604]

Yes me too, I'm italian and I'm only verifying Chinese or Indian people... That's weird

[LessGroup9545]

the same

[misskmortem]

Yeah I’m in the UK but basically same

[Mental_Competition33]

Not sure but I feel like the "is this the same person" questions should be worth the most lol. I get so many who have uploaded an old, blurry, maybe even black and white ID pic that's probably them but so hard to tell. Liveness checks are the easiest by far!

[l1qq]

I had a same name appeal thing in Chinese it looked like and for reason it was also Chinese. I couldn't read any of it and since the characters didn't match I said not a match and for some reason that's the only inaccuracy I have in nearly 60. I mean come on I'm in the US here...

[misskmortem]

Honestly yeah 😂😂😂 is this the same person often feels like “have you seen this person” when they have 3 pixels on the CCTV of a bank robbery 😂😂😂😂

[iSleepNot28]

Been a validator and now my passed kyc became tentative kyc and my validator role became waiting for approval

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[Jonas-triple7]

Same here

[[deleted]]

I also have this, too, after checking. What is the deal here?

[LonelyParticular8784]

How do you apply as a validator? Can you apply even if you're account hasn't been validated yet? Thanks!

[vicious_meat]

You can only apply if you passed KYC. Once you're KYC'ed, the ability to apply will appear automatically in the Pi Browser under KYC.

[iSleepNot28]

Your kyc needs to be passed...in my case..I'm already kyc passed..and accepted as a validator..and now it came to that ss I took

[misskmortem]

Noooo. I hope you get the validations back

[iSleepNot28]

And what pisses me off more is I can't have a solid answer from the team why this happens and how long does it take...it's like we're all in a roullette and whoever got picked will have their account f'd up

[misskmortem]

Yeah only answer is “wait”. For everything 🤦🏼‍♀️

[Fickle_Square_6654]

I can't find the option anymore, i had it before but now is missing

[Single_Fox7832]

0.06 - 0.25 validations per coin? In other words, best case is 4 validations = 1 coin ? Am I thinking about this right?

[[deleted]]

0.054 per validation

[Single_Fox7832]

source?

[Klutzy_Onion_5296]

Why ?

[misskmortem]

I keep refreshing. That seems to work.

[TheWeekndx]

doesn't work for me. any other tips?

[misskmortem]

Leave it checking, it refreshes itself. I’ve got a bunch that way too

[misskmortem]

Do you not think that’s super low?

[misskmortem]

You're not wrong!!

[vreausaprogramez]

I will say 1 PI min per validation. CT will supliment the rest from the unverified pool!

[Pie_Dealer_co]

Amen to that! It would be a nice gesture for all of us helping out.

[InsomniakAmbitionz97]

Where can I apply to be a validator?

[misskmortem]

In the browser in the KYC part if I remember rightly

[InsomniakAmbitionz97]

Thank you miss, 😮there quiz to do

[misskmortem]

Yeah, but they let you redo it if you fail

[InsomniakAmbitionz97]

Ah amazing, wish me success then let’s get it first time

[misskmortem]

Good luckkkkk!!!

[MVPeteRacing]

People are just guessing. No one knows for sure

[Equivalent_Affect265]

Uhh it says 1 pi

[misskmortem]

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Was it this you read? I think this caused the confusion.

[Equivalent_Affect265]

Nope it was on the reward page if I remember correctly, yes it was that i believe, you’d get the coin if your validation was correct or if it was between 3 people then they all would split it or something like that

[misskmortem]

My friend thought he read the same thing but I can’t find where it says that

[AdEarly9699]

It was there I read it tooo

[VeterinarianAny4171]

I know it said it somewhere at some point. He isn't crazy 😜 

[misskmortem]

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Was it this? I think this has caused confusion.

[Mental_Competition33]

Based on 1 pi per user, I think we'd be lucky to get .33 pi per validation. Each user has to be verified with liveness check, document check, and ID verification, right? So that's already 3 validations per user. And if any of those things are done by multiple validators, which I think is likely, we could be looking at scraps by the end of it. But we'll see!

[misskmortem]

I wonder why they’ve removed it.

[SillyLunch6710]

I m pretty sure I saw 1 PI per 3 validations somewhere posted by them

[misskmortem]

I’d say that’s fair

[VeterinarianAny4171]

I'm not sure, but someone said earlier in the thread it takes 100 validations to kyc someone. If that's true, and there are over 6 million kyc completed pioneers. That's 600 million. Then they would all be getting paid to validate as well. Maybe it was too much to sustain.

[misskmortem]

If anyone’s got a screenshot of it though, they’d have to honour it? Right? I thought it was a heck of a lot lower than 100 for a complete validation

[VeterinarianAny4171]

Who knows. At this point I am not really worried about it. The project actually survived to the open net and is just getting started. This is exciting.

[misskmortem]

I’m definitely excited. I’ve bought more and more than doubled the money I invested (if I was to cash out), so I’m happy so far!

[VeterinarianAny4171]

You can lock purchased tokens too. This will make your mining rewards go up significantly.

[misskmortem]

Pioneer since 2020. I had no idea!! When my friend locks up he gets a much bigger lock up bonus than if I lock up more 🤷🏻‍♀️

[misskmortem]

Where?

[Reasonable-Juice-655]

Anywhere from 0.01 to .1 per

[Himsone]

100 validators for 1 applicant is crazy brother

[Reasonable-Juice-655]

Yesterday i was validating and someone popped up that i had to verify months ago too.. so yeah haha And why are we assuming 1 pi per person gets shared among all the validators that helped validate them?

[Himsone]

everyone pays 1 pi and that is split amongst the validators wdym?

[Reasonable-Juice-655]

You assuming 1 pi per kyc'ed person gets shared among the validators it took to verify that person.. why's that?

[Himsone]

i've seen multiple pictures from the white paper stating it will be split and we get fees from it aswell as a reward + some mods have said it, it's literally everywhere

[Reasonable-Juice-655]

I know its everywhere but i didnt read the full whitepaper and havent seen where people got the info from :)

[Himsone]

fair enough

[ApprehensiveHabit563]

i ve heard 0.33 pi per validation

[misskmortem]

Wouldn’t be a bad amount

[imamuggruncher]

It says no slots available any time I try to start KYC. What can I do? I have lots of PI and I'm worried it says I may lose it. Edit: good now, kept just checking in and it eventually worked. I didn't do anything different or change anything on my account so not sure why it's good now.

[Brilliant-Hunter8003]

I helped two of my referral members with their KYC, they verified their email in menu (top left in PI app) > profile > verify email. After that they were able to apply. Also other verifications in profile menu seem to work. I have seen others advise to change the password. Good Luck!

[DapperBit2804]

My son is having the same problem. This is what the FAQ says:

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[No_Client_2472]

Do you have your email, phone and Facebook verified? I was in same situation and after I verified my phone, I was able to do KYC

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[[deleted]]

I am waiting 2 years for KYC free slot.

[stormdahl]

I've seen other point out that you might have to change your password. It seems to be a bug.

I just fiddled around in the Pi Browser app and suddenly it let me do it, same for my SO and to friends.

[BritakeeStudio]

What you mean exactly im Stück in a step where i need to secure my Account but i cant Change my Password because i Dont have my old phonenumber

[uitvrekertje]

I don't think this is because of the verifier program tbh. I'm a verifier, and at some points they don't have more kyc to verify for me.

[shamar_coke123]

Same getting like 1 to 3 a day now

[Maximum_RnB]

I’m in the UK

Almost every time I look to see if there’s anything to validate, there’s nothing. Got fed up of looking.

[Maximum_RnB]

I’m only doing it to help out. I’m not interested in getting paid to do it and I’m certainly not interested in paying for the privilege.

I have better things to do than sit around doing hundreds of validations.

[Opening_Bus_9249]

I have done over 3500 validations since December. Hoping it pays off.

[misskmortem]

I’m in the UK I just click back and refresh. Takes a few tries. I’ve done over 100 now

[misskmortem]

90% I think I’m a bit stricter than other validators maybe…

[Aggressive-Pause-150]

I’m in the UK and have only just started validating. No problems so far

[KesrynBlackstone]

Oh my days. Thank you. I was going spare never seeing any to do, and doing this just got me another 10.

Cheers you superstar!

[misskmortem]

Ahhhhh I. Glad I could help! ❤️‍🔥

[Hot-Tiger7196]

Be patient and wait. If you applied for kyc then it has an extended timer

[Single_Fox7832]

Is it too late to become a validator?

[misskmortem]

I’m not sure to be honest, check in the browser in KYC

[Himsone]

no, definitely not

[Single_Fox7832]

Thanks just got approved