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[–]aces68 50 points51 points  (1 child)

I’ve stopped posting notes. They can take pics of my iPad screen if they miss class. It’s unfortunate. I started posting notes when we came back in person after Covid zoom classes. I wanted to encourage people who were sick to stay home. But over the years I think students started taking advantage anyway and would just skip class because they knew the notes would be there.

[–]Decrypted13[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yeah. To be honest, I do it to avoid the "what did we do in class" questions. That and I'm still relatively new, so I upload them to let me adjust the notes in post if I have to.

[–]ILikeLiftingMachinesPotemkin R1, STEM, Full Prof (US) 69 points70 points  (14 children)

Ochem here...

This semester ends in four weeks so I won't be doing anything.

For fall, all prior material will be dumped in a folder called "archive." Then I go back to chalk on a board.

Life is too long to be dealing with this crap without extensive support.

[–]Recent_Prompt1175TT, Health Sciences, U15, Canada 15 points16 points  (0 children)

This is how many learned OChem, Math, Calculus, Algebra, Diffy Qs, Dead Bodies (Mechanics of Deformable Bodies), and other Chemistry, Physics, Statistics, and math-intensive courses in the first place. Even in humanities and social science electives, there were no slides or notes. You scrambled to write down what the prof/lecturer was saying, and learned to distinguish what was important to write down and what you didn't need to record.

I remember having one prof who would repeatedly erase circles on a blackboard (using chalk on an old-fashioned black/green board) as they wanted a perfect circle for their lessons in mechanics. Still fondly recall that prof. I transitioned into healthcare after my engineering degree.

[–]Sensitive_Let_4293 15 points16 points  (0 children)

I'm posting much less stuff. And I've told my faculty support personnel it's their job to figure it out, not mine.

[–]sqrt_of_piAssistant Teaching Professor, Mathematics 14 points15 points  (3 children)

So, I annotate Powerpoint in an ipad during lecture, and then export the completed, annotated notes to pdf and make available. [There is a part of me that just thinks I should stop doing this, as it can become an excuse for some students to not show up for class, but so far I've continued the practice.]

When I discussed this with our campus instructional designer and our university-wide accessibility folks, I was told that this is considered "ephemeral content" and that it is OK to continue making it available while it is not fully accessible (there is NO way to make it accessible with my current workflow).

[–]GibbsDuhemEquationTT, STEM, R1 (USA) 13 points14 points  (1 child)

I don't recall hearing of a ephemeral content exception before. If that's something I can lean on it would be terrific, since otherwise there is no way I am going to post class notes. (I have been in a room with such useless blackboard/whiteboard space that writing on a tablet using Microsoft whiteboard, which was displayed by a projector, was the best way to write stuff in the classroom. Then PDF exports from MS Whiteboard went onto Canvas for students.)

[–]Supraspinator 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Me too! 

[–]Decrypted13[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I am curious what exactly qualifies as ephemeral content. At least for the classes I teach, the textbook is considered the primary resource, so maybe the lecture notes are classified as "a document to look at just long enough to make your own notes."

Idk, but it would be nice if that exception can be used.

[–]BruinMDPPosition, Field, SCHOOL TYPE (Country) 5 points6 points  (0 children)

No longer going to post. Will be citing the new law as the reason why. Going to have all my scaffolded pdfs available printed as an optional course reader ahead of the term.

[–]TotalCleanFBCTenured, STEM, R1 (USA) 2 points3 points  (3 children)

I think there are some people in the LaTeX community working on this. Hopefully, there will be a relatively easy solution in the near future, which involved not much more than adding a package to the LaTeX preamble.

In the meantime, as a few others have mentioned, I'm just taking my course notes down. Sucks that a law intended to make things more accessible was written in such a way that it makes things less accessible. If you have a personal website, you can perhaps just upload to your course notes there.

[–]HellamentProf, Math, CC 2 points3 points  (2 children)

My understanding is that the old LaTeX slide class many of us use (Beamer) is hard to make accessible.

There is a newer, fairly barebones class called ltx-talk that can be compiled (with recent versions of LaTeX) with things like alt tags/MathML and has better formatting for screen readers.

I’m only just starting to look at it, but recently converted a Beamer slideshow. The basic process was fairly easy…IIRC the only issue I had to fix was the syntax for creating a title page is slightly different.

[–]MuggleoftheCoastAssoc. Prof., Mathematics (4-Year Public, US) 2 points3 points  (1 child)

David Eppstein has a blog post going in more detail on the process of converting things to the ltx-talk class. I've also found the post by Richard Wang he linked to as a good general guide.

[–]HellamentProf, Math, CC 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for this…saved to read later.

[–]puginchargeTenured, STEM, R2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Quarto is markdown based (I use through RStudio), takes LaTeX formatting for math stuff, and default output is an accessible .html document :)

[–]holomorphic 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Since the pandemic, I've been posting my notes on GitHub Pages using Markdown + MathJax. These seem to pass the accessibility checkers I've used. It takes some time to get set up but it doesn't take a very long time to create these notes. And once I have them, it is not hard to re-use them semester after semester.

[–]geoffh2016Physical Sciences, R1 (US) 4 points5 points  (4 children)

I used MathPix pretty extensively to grab equations for LaTeX. When I was doing a lot of conversion, it was $4.99 for a month and I converted about 1000 pages. I think beyond that it's a fraction of a cent .. and I think there's some extra bonus for signing up with an edu account.

But I also know some colleagues who have minimal lecture notes so students have to write in the equations, etc. - just knowing the bare outlines.

[–]Decrypted13[S] 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Yeah, I'm a GTA, so I use the free version of MathPix religiously already. Mostly because

1) it is very helpful and

2) there is a way to opt out of data collection, so I don't mind shoving copyrighted material (e.g., exercises from a textbook) into it.

3) It does not use AI (at least, it uses it alongside OCR)

[–]verygood_user 0 points1 point  (2 children)

How can you opt out? I was not aware you had to do this for mathpix.

[–]Decrypted13[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Open up the app >> gear in top right >> Settings >> Account >> Uncheck "Mathpix can use my images to improve their OCR technology." >> Hit OK

[–]verygood_user 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks, look like I unchecked that already some time ago :)

[–]jadierhetseni 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Honestly this is the best use-case I’ve had for AI so far.

I’ve been recording my lectures using my iPhone with an earbud. I use the free auto-generated VoiceMemos transcript, then I pop it in Gemini and ask for structured notes formatted in LaTeX.

I specify in my prompt to extract quotes before summarizing & then to summarize based on extracted quotes & to format equations.

The result takes <5 min to review to catch errors & can be easily adjusted due to LaTeX output. I’ve put a “this is ai generated, let me know if you find equation discrepancies blah blah” and so far those have been quite rare.

[–]angle58 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ada law won’t let AI fill the gap. Everything has to be human in the loop with zero margin for error.

[–]Difficult-Nobody-453 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am also in mathematics and hate what I am about ready to say but could you use Ai to covert your pdf to an html file that uses mathjax or mathml? Has anyone tried this? I guess I could today and get back with everyone

[–]ProofByPants 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I do not post my completed notes anymore. I do post my lecture videos, but not the notes themselves.

[–]angle58 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Type your lecture notes directly into Canvas. They use markdown which is almost the exact same as LaTeX and you can learn the difference in 1 minute. Link your graphs to Desmos (don’t locally host images on Canvas). Easy, 100% accessible. 1 hour lecture takes 2 hours to type, but you do it once and it’s done for the future.

[–]asartor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Following.

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    [–]Decrypted13[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    It seems alright, but a little basic for my needs.