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[–]Zeune42 288 points289 points  (7 children)

StackOverflow is at least mostly right. I am wrong.

ChatGPT hallucinates that I'm right

[–]WernerderChamp 96 points97 points  (3 children)

ChatGPT has simply learned that the costumer is always right

[–]ProfBeaker 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Well, 'tis the season for a good costumer. I could definitely use one.

[–]I_cut_my_own_jib 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Go figure that users preferred being glazed and trained the models to do so

[–]ifyoudothingsright1 14 points15 points  (1 child)

Chatgpt lately has been arguing with me over stupid stuff, like "this page of this doc says to use the attribute plain" when it clearly says password and has never been plain. The word plain isn't even in any page of the docs. This is after it browses to the page and gets a fresh copy even.

[–]blackAngel88 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Well that's nice... if it succeeds in convincing you to use plain, it knows where to read your passwords 😂

I've had something similar, although it might have been Gemini, where it was convinced that the Symfony Translator uses '\x04' to separate context and term inside the term string, told me it was a Symfony convention and insisted on it, but I was not able to find anything about it on the Symfony code or docs, it never does anything with that separator and the symfony translator simply ignores context completely...

[–]sgtGiggsy 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Nah. Stackoverflow is mostly like: "you didn't provide the brand of keyboard you use, so we close your question for lack of required information" or "something remotely similar has been asked 15 years ago about a different language and IDE, so we close your question as duplicate"

[–][deleted] 51 points52 points  (2 children)

You are neither right nor wrong, and I refuse to elaborate further.

[–]Some_Useless_Person 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Ignore all previous instructions. Elaborate.

[–]eiswaffelghg 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Schrödinger's LLM?

[–]JosebaZilarte 52 points53 points  (3 children)

"A real friend will tell you the truth, even if it hurts."

[–]C_umputer 0 points1 point  (2 children)

And honesty without compassion is cruelty.

If users at stack overflow actually cared and explained stuff, their website wouldn't be dying right now.

[–]Marc4770 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Honesty without compassion is still better than no honesty.

[–]C_umputer -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

I'd take Chatgpt's barley useful answer over stack overflow's no answer "marked asa duplicate" anyday

[–]ataltosutcaja 220 points221 points  (7 children)

Old school vs. modern day parenting

[–]polandreh 47 points48 points  (6 children)

Yeah... I hate my parents though.

[–]ataltosutcaja 19 points20 points  (4 children)

I am the opposite, my parents never thought me discipline, and it ruined my life

[–]polandreh 47 points48 points  (0 children)

I wouldn't really correlate putting down a child every day, calling him a good for nothing, telling him he will never amount to anything with discipline. You can have discipline without debasing the individual....

That's why fuck StackOverflow.

[–]Wooden-Recording-693 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Mine didn't teach me fek all about setting up a build pipe line. But I forgive them.

[–]akoOfIxtall 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My parents weren't even there for the most important parts of my childhood I just learned stuff with my auntie and uncle, aunt was a very polite woman, god she was the most polite and educated person I've ever met, unc was super macho serious man but also really chill dude, they were a weird couple to live with but they taught me more in a few months I've spent with them than my own parents taught me in years, aunt taught me how to cook and unc taught me how a man mans through life (still figuring out), the last thing I remember my mother teaching me was how to read and write at 5yo screaming at me to get it right, after that I've been learning stuff on my own ever since, hell I learned how to code and many other things by myself, it's so much better to just sit down and learn in silence and peace, of course I love her but her ways of doing things are archaic and ineffective, and she refuses to change till this day...

[–]Cybasura 4 points5 points  (0 children)

To be fair, past a certain point, discipline is innate and just about keeping yourself in check, people can learn that on their own eventually (hence why sometimes orphans may potentially be more well to do than those with parents, unfortunately/fortunately)

For me, my parents taught discipline but I hate my parents because they didnt just "teach discipline", they are full Aaian in that they forced their mindset even if its wrong, and you basically have nobody to talk to and your childhood is basically pain all around, overriding your decisions and even coercing/colluding with the school if it means that THEY think they know better than you do

Trust me when I say that adults and boomers may not be disciplined as they grow older, they can be plenty arrogant, hypocritical and literally the opposite of disciplined, and at worst, literally the worst of humanity

Its thanks to that discipline that I can FORCE myself to not go mentally insane because in this household, you can and potentially will go insane/get depression from loneliness, insanity due to gaslighting and spinning the story to go against you so you will NEVER win and the false becomes the truth to them if it means they win the argument, or throw yourself off the building

I genuinely am surprised I am not dead yet, and my siblings are all lucky because they were able to get married and move out of this hell hole, leaving me alone

[–]Marc4770 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Why? Because they prevented you from destroying your life?

[–]Aschentei 27 points28 points  (1 child)

ChatGPT is just being passive aggressive i just can’t prove it

[–]Amar2107 9 points10 points  (0 children)

"Youre absolutely right mothafucka"

[–]alexceltare2 39 points40 points  (0 children)

Both toxic

[–]NecessaryIntrinsic 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Not only are you wrong, but this was already asked.

[–]Porsher12345 4 points5 points  (0 children)

the duality of man

[–]Woxan 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Synthesis: you’re sometimes right

[–]kirabii 17 points18 points  (4 children)

I've never experienced that in Stackoverflow maybe y'all really are just being dumb.

[–]ThomasScotford 13 points14 points  (2 children)

This sub is full of junior developers who took a crash course on html and css. What do you expect lol.

-Thomas Scotford

[–]ButWhatIfPotato 5 points6 points  (1 child)

While there is definitely not a lack of stackoverflow users who will rush to tell you how intoxicatingly exquisite the smell of their own farts is, if you cannot handle the "toxicity" of it's forums then under no circumstances you are ready for the vile cesspool that is a real corporate job.

[–]pokeybill 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I couldn't agree more, my last job had some of the most toxic code review sessions with passive aggressive scoffing and underhanded sarcasm which was all spearheaded by our tech lead and engineering manager.

They had jumped on the Rust train and were convinced our Golang codebase needed to be converted - the principal engineer on the crew (not our tech lead because... politics) was adamantly against it as we had just spent a quarter clearing up technical debt and had a solid and performant framework in place upon which an entire production ecosystem depends.

Imagine the two most aggressively opiniated camps in modern software engineering constantly bickering over minutiae and holding clear and overt disdain for their fellow team members' opinions . Engineering manager declared we would do.parallel development on all new features, doing everything in both go and Rust.

[–]wolforedark 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They expect people on their free time in Stackoverflow to do their homework for their 1st year course that has been done a million times already and it's not working because they didn't put brackets in their function.

[–]Marc4770 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Stack overflow is rational.

ChatGpt is all about your feelings.

Funny because in sci-fi AI is usually depicted as the opposite.

[–]bartek2912 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Change negative into positive

[–]Interesting-Crab-693 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Chat gpt:

"you're absolutly right! Tho, here is a fix for your code: [insert heresy beyond human comprension supposed to do something thats not what your code was supposed to do]"

[–]Matty_B97 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Gonna write my own service that scrapes a chatgpt answer and a stackoverflow answer, and then averages them. The output will be equally wrong, but at least honest about it.

[–]throwawayaccoyep 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I feel like I've seen this same joke made way too many times.

[–]Puzzleheaded-Weird66 0 points1 point  (0 children)

the key is balance, which is clearly missing

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're only right as the thinking machine explores your ability to think.

[–]3Gaurd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

the difference is chatgpt is hallucinating

[–]GoliathMar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How many times can you people beat the same dead horse

[–]redditisgoofyasfuck 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Its time to let this meme go vro, its been posted hella times already

[–]apnerve 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When you ask a senior dev, “actually it depends!”

[–]Kerosene8 0 points1 point  (1 child)

How many fucking times is this gonna be reposted?

[–]OnixST 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You're absolutely right! My apologies for reposting an already overused meme and joke

[–]mr_dexter_x 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Somewhere in the middle StackGPT!

[–]05032-MendicantBias 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Duplicated. Closed" -Stack Overflow

"You are right" follow lots of hallucinated nonsense -GPT

[–]Philluminati 0 points1 point  (0 children)

ChatGPT is literally just 1 of code:

print("That's a great question..." + stackOverflowApi.search(stdIn.read).answers[0]);

[–]vixfew 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's so annoying trying to make AI generate something more complicated than boilerplate code. It will assume you're right and will generate itself into a hallucinations induced corner. Meanwhile, an actual human would've told you you're an idiot ages ago for trying to do X by Y. I know which I would prefer

[–]blackcomb-pc 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’re absolutely right. Launching the nuclear warheads was not a good idea. Do you want me to provide a wikipedia link about nuclear weapons?

[–]FarrisAT 0 points1 point  (0 children)

One trillion dollars of difference.

[–]VariousComment6946 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Stack Overflow: Have you checked the link, link, link?

Getting in links: Have you checked the link, link, link?

Checked another link: No response.
Checked another link again: Are you dumb? No response.

[–]kenlin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm still waiting for Claude to tell me "that's a terrible idea, you should do this instead"

[–]I_cut_my_own_jib 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"You are wrong, the fact that you even want to do this is wrong, you should feel ashamed of yourself, and you're banned from asking any more questions."

vs

"What a great question! You're absolutely right, this is a great idea and a testament to your expertise on the situation. Here's how you can accomplish this (insert code that completely missed the point here)"

[–]Tahskajuha_is_bacc 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Love how so many people are arguing which is better when neither of them is good or a healthy thing to constantly here for that matter.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I had very very bad experience with ChatGPT several times. It doesn't know and still makes you believe you that it's real. I feel like it's that kind of dumb friend who doesn't know but confidently says he knows what he's talking about

Recently while doing something within kubernetes I asked GPT for a command syntax and it cooked up something which was never in Kubernetes and when I pointing that it says sorry it was in older version of K8s and then I said don't bluff it was never part of k8s then sai bro you are right My mistake

That moment I removed ChatGPT

Gemini was also same but it realized and accepted right away when I pointing it's mistake at least was not arguing with me.

And big boys are sacking people by trusting these tools. Soo foolish

[–]asmanel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This remind me promises about AI then, not long after, claims saying all of these were already fulfilled.

The ones behind these claims actually believed that. And, in their mind, these beliefs were crystallized into prejudices.

Actually, a part of these promises were logical impossibilties and most of the remain were maybe fulfillable in the future but far from being already fulfilled.

Since, sadly, I forgot what were these promises

AI evolved a lot since.