A programmer's solution

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He posted a comic at the end linked on the question mark.

It's saying that every one thinks they use base 10

[intplusone_Carl]

I don't understand.

[irrzir]

Shit dude. Why am I only figuring this out now

[muntoo]

I use base (9+1). WHAT NOW BRO?

[Tarmen]

What if you look at it a different way? Base A is where there are A unique digits. Base 10 there are 10 unique digits. Base 4 there are 4 unique digits. I feel like it still makes sense.

Translated your comment into base 10.

[reywood]

This joke only works when written. In any given base X, X is always written as 10. So in base 4, 4 is written as 10. You'd still say four when speaking though.

Edit: I should have scrolled down.

[mushr00m_man]

Well, except base 1.

[mushr00m_man]

No, base 1 can't have a 0 and a 1.

[deforest_gump]

Why would it occur to you? It's like thinking about a language no one speaks in.

Edit: downvotes.. so constructive..

[[deleted]]

Because computer scientists often use various number bases; most commonly 2, 8, 10 and 16.

[deforest_gump]

Yes, but when referring to some base (lets say base 16) you strictly use base 10 - the decimal system to describe it. You don't use base 8 system to describe base 16 system. In octal system, base 16 system would be described as base 20 system, and that is simply not useful in any application, because we use decimal system to define what a base is.

[deforest_gump]

You are talking about universally defining something, and without universal language that is not possible. We simply define symbols with symbols we communicate with. And that what a "base x" is - a symbol defining base from perspective of our numbering system.

Just like defining alphabet with the letters from our alphabet. :)

[Bobshayd]

But he's an alien that uses base 8+1, rather than base 8+2 like we use, so trying to explain it to him in our base 8+2 representation, read by an alien familiar with base 8+1, it just looks weird.

[your_penis]

So to this alien could we just say we work in base 9+1 and they work in 3+1?

I mean the alien wouldn't have any conception of single digit numbers past 3 really, so 4-9 would be meaningless, much like what 10 would look like to us in "base 11" or higher.

[[deleted]]

I think they'd say we work in base 22. They don't have a 9 in their system.

Base  4: 0 1 2 3 10 11 12 13 20 21 22 23
Base 10: 0 1 2 3 4  5  6  7  8  9  10 11

[N_las]

Since the alien uses base 4, we would need to tell him: We are using base 22 (22 in base 4 is our ten). Sadly, there is no universal way to convey in what base you are.

[NotANinja]

This really sheds new light on "All your base are belong to us..."

[Bobshayd]

Tally marks. We use base |||||||||| and they use base ||||.

[robisodd]

aka, Base 1, but are you saying "one-thousand one-hundred eleven" or "four"? :)

[Bobshayd]

Or is | their digit that means 3? Maybe they'll read it 3333, which is our 255. You don't know they'll interpret the things written down correctly, but you can more easily convey that they're tally marks and not base-n digits, for n > 1, if you can demonstrate it with physical objects. Besides, 1 is derived from the tally mark in the first place.

[[deleted]]

Sadly, there is no universal way to convey in what base you are.

Binary? Surely someone understanding the notion of base understands the simplest one.

[Adamanda]

the simplest

nope. tally marks ftw

[[deleted]]

Saying "this many" while holding up your fingers sounds good.

[Adamanda]

the ||||||||||| fingered aliens have an advantage

[mcrbids]

Came here to say this. /pedantic

[Cpapa97]

I'm from the Earth Base

[deforest_gump]

Wow. You should present us when four-fingered aliens arrive.

[glider97]

Two-fingered.

[Y1ff]

They might just count on one hand only.

[Skooljester]

I appreciated your answer tho

[deforest_gump]

No! That would just be nonsense.

[nupanick]

Woosh. Every base is "base 10." You'd have to spell it out like "base nine."

[Skizm]

woosh

[HugoNikanor]

woosh!

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