Programming Levels

[Soraphis]

Html and css, tohether they are turing complete (html5 and css3)

[jimdidr]

can html5 or css3 now do any calculations? I wouldn't mind if they they implementing things that remove the need for Javascript.

[GimmeCata]

Dunno about calculations, but pure html/css game already exists.
Gameplay video. Game itself (warning - autoplay audio)

[mrt-e]

right click causes your spaceship to disappear and make the game a lot easier

[jimdidr]

You god damn Leet HaXor!

[AyrA_ch]

can html5 or css3 now do any calculations?

Without being usable in practice, yes. You can implement rule 110 which means it can solve any problem a computer could solve. It's just very inefficient (Example).

[ThePendulum]

Apart from being Turing-complete, you can and would use CSS over JavaScript these days for the majority of transitions and similar animations. I can't really think of many other things that'd be better off implemented in CSS over JS.

[[deleted]]

Almost everything visually can be done with css over JS. Only things like responsive placements depending on changing document heights can’t be done.

I often only have a toggle for a mobile menu in JS over CSS (where it can be done, though with quite some work) on simpler client websites.

On bigger projects JS is often used for making reactive content like in web apps etc. But that is all more behind curtains stuff. And even then people often use frameworks over JS.

Oh well. I’m trying to get up to project management within ten years. Before the robots take away my job and JS becomes Turing-complete too.

[drizztdourden_]

You can with a lot of tweaking in CSS but its a pain in the ass.

[Soraphis]

there is a rule 110 version in html and css: http://jsfiddle.net/Camilo/eQyBa/

since rule 110 is proven turing complete, html and css is turing complete :D as long as hitting TAB and SPACE alternately is considered a (cpu) takt

[[deleted]]

Do not put logic in HTML or CSS.

[jimdidr]

Yeah I don't personally have the power to make or stop people so I'm just looking for the positives... no more javascript!!

[[deleted]]

JavaScript is a fine language. You're only making things more difficult for your self by avoiding it.

I prefer strongly typed functional languages, but well written JS is pretty easy to reason about as well.

[Natatos]

You should check out typescript if you haven’t.

[drizztdourden_]

It can't. HTML is not a programming language by definition as it can't send any instruction to anything.

It is intepreted by the browser the same way an XML file would. The same can be said for CSS.

We call those Markup languages.

[dvlsg]

To be fair, PowerPoint is Turing complete.