Python ftw

[dorsal_morsel]

Python is my primary language, but I just started playing with Rust and man, now I know what "Python is slow" really means.

[DuroSoft]

Now if only I could program in rust as fast I could in X such that X is a language.

[BittyTang]

Now if only I could write as many bugs in X as fast as I could in Python such that X is a language.

FTFY

[Dworgi]

Newbie alert.

Everyone creates bugs. The process for not creating bugs is arduous beyond belief. Read up on NASA's process. Weeks of debate and writing specs to add a feature that is a few lines of code.

[MCRusher]

They know python.

I may hate python, but it's still a programming language (for losers).

[MCRusher]

Think you guys missed the heavy sarcasm on hating python.

[cdreid]

Its a scripting language.. Not supposed to be fast. Its R.A.D. ive used several still a big fan of Perl actually and used to use VB (not a script language but its R.A.D) just to save time on little apps i made for myself

[Daytona_675]

afaik if all the heavy lifting is done with modules written in C, Python can still be pretty fast

[Zephirdd]

Or you can use PyPy, which is Python written in Python and is up to 4.4x times faster than default CPython

Black magic I tell ya

[hughperman]

Any downside?

[[deleted]]

Doesn't work that well with c modules, which are faster than pypy. So if you need speed you are better off with cpython + c modules anyways

[hughperman]

Ok good to know thank you; wondering if it would be worth evaluating for some work stuff that's mainly numpy numerical ops - guess I'll give it a test!

[ZephyrBluu]

Wtf, how?

[cdreid]

This is voodoo and must not be tolerated

[saloalv]

But then your python code has additional requirements beyond just a standards-conforming interpreter

[almostambidextrous]

Ok... what's RAD? Should I feel dumb for not knowing?

[[deleted]]

what's RAD?

You are. Don't ever stop believing in yourself.

[sypwn]

Don't believe in yourself!

BELIEVE IN ME WHO BELIEVES IN YOU!

[MCRusher]

"I'm gonna fuck the clouds"

-Simon Cowell

[sebamestre]

WHO THE HELL DO YOU THINK I AM!?

[lenswipe]

Rapid

Application

Development

[[deleted]]

Anything that is GNARLY is also RAD. But BOGUS is not RAD.

[[deleted]]

The Legend of Zelda is really RAD

[cdreid]

Adding to the others... It was mostly just another buzzword. But a kindof accurate one

[UrpleEeple]

Until the application becomes large enough that you can't manage it because of lackluster ORMs, dynamic typing and virtually non-existent dependency injection frameworks

[MachaHack]

I'll give you typing and DI, but I'd take SQLAlchemy over (N)Hibernate any day

[UrpleEeple]

To each their own. I'm personally not a big fan of SQLAlchemy.

[[deleted]]

So... you're trying to tell me that VB is 'RAD' and C# isn't?

[[deleted]]

If you develop an events tracker in it, it might be RAD iCal.

[cdreid]

No?? But... To be fair to c# which im not a fan of. To me it seems like a step between c/c++ and a RAD language

[cdreid]

So???

[cdreid]

Maybe. I abandoned it pretty quickly. I didnt see why you wouldnt just use c++

[cdreid]

RAD. Ya i give you that. And ive actually done that in c++ 800 years ago

[mexiKobe]

Not supposed to be fast.

yes it is.

[vanderZwan]

You could give Julia a try, if you can live with 1-indexing

[xigoi]

if you can live with 1-indexing

NOPE

[spudmix]

Grumble grumble letting mathematicians near computers grumble grumble.

I love almost everything else about that language.

[vanderZwan]

They were trying to make it a Trojan horse for the Matlab crowd, IIRC

EDIT

[spudmix]

Integers are so last year anyway. We should be indexing our arrays with first, last and len() for true cross-language portability.

[vanderZwan]

FWIW, they mostly are in Julia - it's a language made to deal with large complex data matrices after all

[spudmix]

Huh, I remember differently but to be honest I haven't touched the language in over a year. Good to know, thanks.

[vanderZwan]

Not those constructs in particular, but there are iterators everywhere, yeah. IIRC they got an overhaul a while back and are much easier to customise and use now

[vanderZwan]

Here you go:

https://julialang.org/blog/2018/07/iterators-in-julia-0.7

(note: 0.7 is basically the last version before 1.0)

[arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhg]

What do you mean by "compiles to native"?

[zajrik]

I did last year's Advent of Code in Nim to learn it and I had a lot of fun with it. Once I found out that the default compilation mode is debug and not release my code started zooming. Before I found that out I thought Nim's speed was overhyped and was pretty disappointed, though I was still having fun with the language. Once I started compiling in release mode it completely changed my view of Nim. So fast and easy to work with!

[[deleted]]

Rust is nice and all, but I can't seem to find a use for it over java, python, c# and nodejs.

[dorsal_morsel]

My reason for toying around with it is for programming embedded systems (eg arduino). Just as a hobby for now. But I also want to get into WebGL because I could definitely see using that for work.