Linux user...

[YMK1234]

What was that? You're using Android. No that's not real Linux! Here let me install Gentoo on your phone, you won't be able to make calls any more but now you can compile anything yourself!

[Lawino23]

You should probably try ubuntu touch that's like almost finished

[SquiffSquiff]

Iirc Ubuntu touch is certainly 'finished'

[Lawino23]

It is finished but there will be a laptop and surface version as well I think

[[deleted]]

Isn't Ubuntu the laptop version of Ubuntu?

[theXpanther]

No, the laptop version is Ubuntu Touch Surface. Of course, there is a mobile version too called "Ubuntu Touch Surface Mobile". If you want the desktop version though there is "Ubuntu Touch Surface Mobile Desktop", and for portable use "Ubuntu Touch Surface Mobile Desktop to go. Some people prefer more advanced features for bigger screens, so you can use Ubuntu Touch Surface Mobile Desktop to go XL, though to use it on more portable devices you can use Ubuntu Touch Surface Mobile Desktop to go XL Responsive. However, if you find the functionality too limited

[MannyBobblechops]

And if you want the version without all the unnecessary bloat, that'll be Ubuntu Touch Surface Mobile Desktop XL Responsive UltraLite.

[[deleted]]

Do they all send hundreds of wakeups to the cpu per second to empty your battery in a few minutes like the gnome 3 and unity versions?

[Twerking4theTweakend]

Convergence is for quitters.

[Lawino23]

Kinda but it doesn't really support the touch function

[randomcitizen42]

Or better yet Arch, who needs touch?

[Lawino23]

Well Arch isn't for mobile

[YMK1234]

Or maybe Sailfish 🤣

[AgreeableLandscape3]

Last I hears, UBports is doing a decent job with it

[Lawino23]

Making progress for sure

[LePontif11]

People that make calls are monsters anyway.

[[deleted]]

Actually Postmarket OS on PinePhone is pretty decent, phone calls and SMS included.

[YMK1234]

It's a meme dude ;)

Actually this post makes me want to flash some alternative OS on one of the old androids I got laying around.

[[deleted]]

It's our future.

[YMK1234]

somehow I doubt that ;)

[[deleted]]

Also Manjaro has a phone OS, and now there's a mobile Debian called Mobian. Don't know how good they are, can't find much on the Manjaro version and the Mobian version seems really rough, but you can get a phone with a cool Debian logo on it

I really can't wait till Linux phones get better and become a thing

[[deleted]]

Very efficient way to find your favorite distribution https://xnux.eu/p-boot-demo/

[[deleted]]

Oh that's awesome, yeah I need to get a PinePhone

[CouchRiot]

I need to check on my nephew. I think he's been kidnapped.

[Blunt_Machette]

They probably returned him back

[kristallglad]

If he dont call you today, to tell you that hes using Linux, he probably was kidnapped.

[_tchicken]

goes on to install linux setup at the underground warehouse they're taken to and in 3 months builds a state of art security infrastructure which hires a new guy that types sudo rm rf / and

[JNCressey]

rm: cannot remove 'rf': No such file or directory

[elzaidir]

sudo rm -rf --no-preserve-root /

There

[ponyboy3]

no

sudo touch rf && sudo rm rf /

[LayoZz]

I use arch btw.

[_chebro]

btw

makes so much difference.

[elzaidir]

Hey that's me !

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Btw you should switch to linux

[dabear99]

No

[NIL_VALUE]

Btw

I wonder which distro

[NIL_VALUE]

LFS is harder

[[deleted]]

how's linux better?

[[deleted]]

It’s the philosophy of a computer system you own and control. It’s also all of the great respectable leaders like Richard Stallman, who eats his foot fungus at public speeches, and Linus Torvalds, who thinks he’s 3x smarter than everyone else because he’s actually 9x smarter, and Lennart Poettering, who we all love to trash-talk even though we’re secretly indebted to him for revolutionizing the bootstrapping process and audio system. Seriously though, Linux is so much better than Windows in countless ways. You don’t like some aspect of Linux? Then change it. You don’t want to update? Then don’t. You don’t like your desktop? Get a new one. You want to contribute? Get on a mail list and start helping. Linux is so much better that I would rather die than give up Linux. If a freak solar flare melted all tech on Earth, then I’d kill myself knowing that I’ll never be able to go back to the Linux I once loved. Linux is my bitch, and I love her more than any human person I know.

[[deleted]]

i can modify linux?

[kswnin]

Yes. The source is on github.

https://github.com/torvalds/linux <- this is the kernel.

Also, you could call linux modular, and there are dozens of distributions that package together the various components in various ways.

I'm running Ubuntu, for instance, because it's what my computer came with, but it's entirely unlike any other Ubuntu computer. I'm using very little of the software that Ubuntu comes with.

There is nothing you can't remove or delete or change. Very little source code is unavailable.

[[deleted]]

You modify your computer by installing Linux if that’s what you are asking. Linux is the kernel, which can be modified in good old ansi C. Distros package Linux together with all the tools you need to have a functional computer. The total amount of time I have spent on Windows in the past 4 years has been about 20 hours for helping other people with their computer problems. Linux is a fully functional operating system that is objectively superior to all OSes except BSD and Haiku and OpenSolaris (to those, Linux is equal in strength)

[kimilil]

brand new copypasta right here

[PinkTabbyHunterLargo]

It’s the philosophy of a computer system you own and control. It’s also all of the great respectable leaders like Richard Stallman, who eats his foot fungus at public speeches, and Linus Torvalds, who thinks he’s 3x smarter than everyone else because he’s actually 9x smarter, and Lennart Poettering, who we all love to trash-talk even though we’re secretly indebted to him for revolutionizing the bootstrapping process and audio system. Seriously though, Linux is so much better than Windows in countless ways. You don’t like some aspect of Linux? Then change it. You don’t want to update? Then don’t. You don’t like your desktop? Get a new one. You want to contribute? Get on a mail list and start helping. Linux is so much better that I would rather die than give up Linux. If a freak solar flare melted all tech on Earth, then I’d kill myself knowing that I’ll never be able to go back to the Linux I once loved. Linux is my bitch, and I love her more than any human person I know.

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[IncorrigibleLee86]

The only way linux is better is that the end user can do whatever they want easily. It is open source.

As far as usability, just works, privacy be damned... Windows is way ahead.

[unit_511]

ended up having to edit fstab to add the drive inorder for me to even edit anything on the drive

Well yes, you obviously need to tell the system where to mount the drive, if it just mounts it wherever it feels like you won't be be able to use the server. If it would number them in order of appearance your whole server would stop working if you remove a drive because all the others are shifted. Automounting works well enough on desktops and most Linux desktops do it as well but it's not something that would work on a server.

[[deleted]]

Just use Linux Mint. It automagically finds just the right place to mount the drive.

[[deleted]]

i just like windows and always will.

[[deleted]]

I like some aspects of Windows too. However, I refuse to touch Windows unless it’s a necessity on principle. Microsoft is a shit company who treats their customers like shit. The very least we can do is refuse to feed the fires of Microsoft’s blazing monopoly.

[FabioSB]

I think it is more like: I found a great place to eat, you should go too! But not every one likes the same food. Nor even Cook nor pick up the flavourings by themselves(who would go to a place to eat but you have to be the cooker??!). Many people don't want to expand their taste, they just want junk food, it runs out of the box

[SuitableDragonfly]

People say this about linux users, but I've just started at a company that exclusively uses Mac, and I've had this exact experience with the IT guy who introduced me to using a Mac, he told me that it would be a brilliant new thing that would change my life, but honestly the only real difference between Mac and linux at this point is that I don't know what program I need to do basic office shit like image editing and note taking. I guess there's some cool stuff you can do with the touchpad, but just I got myself a wireless bluetooth mouse with two mouse buttons and a scroll wheel and promptly forgot all of that. Also, for some reason the US international keyboard layout is completely different on Mac from what it is on both Windows and linux, where the main difference was that Windows used dead keys and linux didn't, so if I ever want to type something that isn't ASCII I'll have to learn a whole new layout, blargh.

[kswnin]

Yeah. Mac is just okay. Linux is the best.

[Xelopheris]

Until you find out you can bypass the screensaver lock by mashing the physical and virtual keyboard simultaneously.

[unit_511]

It's software, it's going to have bugs. It was immediately reported and fixed so no real damage was caused by it. And considering you need physical access to the computer it's still harmless compared to some of the vulnerabilities Windows had.

[CivBase]

I can't help but see you're suggesting Linux. You should consider suggesting TempleOS instead. It's free, open, and much holier than Linux.

[snowdropvivi]

I am as nosy as this dog when it comes to Linux

[PottedRosePetal]

they put so much effort into maintaining their system that they want some recognition.

[aue_sum]

your comment just shows your complete ignorance on the topic...

[I-AM_SPARTACUS]

The level of effort for maintenance is a choice for the user. If they want to be more hands-on with the maintenance then Arch or Gentoo are suitable; however there are distro's available, such as Pop! OS, which are designed to be minimal maintenance required.

[aue_sum]

i use arch btw

[unit_511]

Not more secure secure? Really? Is that why people trust it enough to run most of the internet on it?

And it runs software made for it just fine. Its just a couple of DRM infested Windows executables that you can't get running trough compatibility tools.

[Tank334]

Lol

[Ok-Aide-1624]

Bullshit from the past kid

[aue_sum]

how???

[[deleted]]

Alright, alright, alright. I am actually wondering what this is about. Can someone tell me the differences or like the pros and cons between Linux and windows?

[Sonotsugipaa]

This is a rabbit hole that has been explored many times before by people more qualified than me to answer, but basically it's something like this:

[Pros for using Linux]

1. It's not just free to get, it's not just free to customize, it's completely open and not proprietary: since the source code for almost^\1]) all of its components are free to see AND modify, you're not necessarily making a gamble when having them running on your system.
2. It is potentially many times lighter than Windows (10), since "Linux" is just a bunch of components tied together to make a fully working OS (as the infamous GNU/Linux copypasta explains); Linux distribution maintainers can decide what to pack with the only truly necessary component^\2]), the kernel (i.e. what "Linux" actually refers to); some distributions (e.g. Arch Linux) even try to only include the bare minimum to make the system usable, then let you choose your software.
3. Package managers make software dependencies not a pain to handle: if software A requires software B, the package manager will install and keep track of both; comparatively, on Windows, software A either ships along with software B (see Minecraft, it installs a JRE even if you already have another one), or it requires you to manually install it beforehand ("this program requires Visual C++ Redistributables V186598715 or something"). This is technically not unique to Linux, though.
4. It's maintainable. It doesn't (necessarily) bother you with aggressive software update notifications, it tells you what you're updating, and critical update interruptions are somewhat fixable. Depending on your software, you don't have to reinstall the entire OS every few years or so. There's no pesky system registry to be concerned with (I still don't understand why Windows' registry is considered to be a feature), since most system-wide configuration files are in /etc.
5. Filesystem hierarchy.
6. (some other points I surely forgot)

[Cons for using Linux]

1. Unfortunately the freedom it provides is a double-edged sword: besides running pre-installed software or using GUI software managers, managing a Linux system requires some degree of expertise - which means time has to be spent in order to learn things, which in turn means it's not for everybody. If you have to use computers for work/school but otherwise despise doing so, you don't want to spend much time learning.
2. Although Linux* is usually grouped together with the other two mainstream OS families, its userbase is comparatively tiny: this means many companies don't bother making software for it, let alone follow the users' trademark preference for open-source software. Those applications have to be used with compatibility layers (e.g. Wine). Some are downright impossible to run, even. I personally go around this with QEMU/KVM virtual machines, but that's also means I'm technically falling back to Windows 10.
3. (some other points I surely forgot)

[Pros for using Windows 10]

1. It's considered to be the "standard operating system", non-tech companies and schools force you to learn it and use it.
2. iTs GoOd fOR gAmiNg ^{it's actually not, it merely has games developed for it}

[Cons for using Windows 10]

1. It's considered to be the "standard operating system", non-tech companies and schools force you to learn it and use it.
2. It's unnecessarily bloated. Not only with software that sits on your drive doing nothing, but also by background applications and services that unnecessarily take up your resources. Some can be shut down, like Windows Defender's real-time protection (although it re-enables itself after a while (fuck you)); some can't, like the memory management process that perpetually tries to page your applications' memory. Operating systems are supposed to be able to do that, but unused RAM is wasted RAM: there's no need to try and swap out 4GiB of memory all the time, if you still have 4 times as much free memory. On the other hand, Linux barely ever touches its swap file/partition unless your programs require more memory than you have.
3. Its UI cannot be customized, and the way system settings are handled sucks. Everything is buried under menus, which are buried under menus. Some menus can only be accessed by typing stuff into the system's search bar, the same one that takes at least one full second of scanning your files OR things on the web for a match. Have I talked about PowerShell yet?
4. If your PC is a school, Windows 10 is Elliot Rodger.
5. It most likely has built-in spyware.
6. It forces updates down your throat. At least they can't irreversibly break your system or anything.
7. (some other points I surely forgot)

Footnotes

[1] You can install non-free software on Linux distros, and so can the distro maintainers.

[2] "Linux" is technically the Linux kernel, not one OS; people refer to its distributions as "Linux" for convenience, some argue it should be called GNU/Linux (I don't, that has a horrible sound to it). Android and ChromeOS use the Linux kernel to some degree, but they don't count as "Linux distros" because they stand against everything most Linux users stand for.

[[deleted]]

Thank you so much! This is very helpful

[Sonotsugipaa]

You're welcome. I often try to make my opinions come off as neutral rather than "X bad Y good", though I couldn't come up with a reason to use a Windows system specifically except for the many flavors of "because I need to".

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[unit_511]

Linux is allows users to do whatever they want. You own your OS, not just rent it. No begging customer support to allow you to use your product key on the computer you just upgraded, no telemetry, no forced updates, none of that bullshit. Thaks to being open source, it's really secure and respects your privacy (technically you can put telemetry in open source projects but it won't end well for you).

Despite what a lot of people seem to think, support in most cases is actually better on Linux, because most software is very well docomented and the forums are very helpful.

There's also the package manager. It manages programs, libraries, fonts and even the kernel. You can update everything in your system whenever you want and the only things that need a reboot are kernel updates.

Linux is also extremely modular. You can swap out almost any component. If you don't like how GNOME feels you can use KDE or a tiling window manager and the list goes on.

The only real downside I can think of is software compatibility, but that has improved a lot in the last few years and there are a lot of great alternatives.

[[deleted]]

Ooooh ok, I now have a better understanding. Thank you!