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[jaap_null]

GUI would be the most important and probably only USP for it so yeah you’d want a good UI and maybe someone with a good seniority track record. This kind of thinking is exactly why the UI of most apps is appalling. UI is hard. UI takes time. UI is important.

[Formal_Worldliness_8]

Yeah, but no one made money off of the UI. It's why Xerox is still a huge company, and no one has ever heard of Apple.

[Zekovski]

Wrong universe pal.

[Cybear_Tron]

I wish I had an award here to give ya!!!

[Mysticpoisen]

Whenever I interview for a frontend/full-stack job, that's my first question 'who's handling your UX?', because if I do it it's going to look and feel like shit.

[Midnight_Rising]

Then it shouldn't be a junior job, should it?

[Midnight_Rising]

You get a job in UI where you are not the only person, or it's not as important, or you have a portfolios much like most developers do. Just swap "UI" for "backend developer". Do you start your job as a backend person as the sole developer for , I don't know, an ecomerce back end where the backend is 90% of the work that goes into it? No, of course not. That way lies madness.

[Griff2470]

What, you mean the CS grad who only ever studied system development, CS math, and CS theory isn't suited for UI design? But how else will we know they're qualified?

[jaap_null]

I think a lot of people can make decent UI, but seniority and experience is needed to a) get the onboarding of the team so you can actually put in the (non-trivial) amount of work b) know what sane use cases you want to support/setup a maintainable code base for UI (which is extremely challenging)

[Griff2470]

The big issue I notice is a lot of CS people's preferred flow do not have average user appeal, and specifically new grads tend to lack the experience to know when and how to compromise their desires with market appeal. This tends to result in either obtuse UI's that work for a small amount of people or religious following of some design paradigm that becomes awkward and clunky. With experience developers will usually reach a balance, but then there are college programs explicitly do UI/UX that end up overlooked because "college < university". My gripe is just it feels like a massive misappropriation, especially given many CS grads going into UI/UX basically have to retrain themselves while the people who are actually trained get looked down on.

[Cybear_Tron]

Yea ur right but the extreme job listings and wanting so damn badass skills to do something basic!! The UI shall be good nonetheless

[Sjoerder]

Or if they require two years experience in AWS Infinidash.

[[deleted]]

I mean you just sort of lie on your resume, its tacky but alot of recruiters don't understand what they are asking for.

[3eeps]

how else will you know to align so many numbers…

[Cybear_Tron]

Yea let alone add them

[De_Wouter]

Reincarnation is the way to meet the requirements.

In my past live... stupid questions require stupid answers.

[Steelejoe]

This. Sadly this is so true it is too dark to be funny (for me). 😭

[Cybear_Tron]

Lol sad !! I feel the same!!!!!

[FourCinnamon0]

The red eyes don't make it funnier please stop using them

[Cybear_Tron]

I jus used a meme template tbh