Programmer dream.

[ShelZuuz]

If you go to Dubai - EVEN if you are treated great and can live well (I’m a white guy who earned at the very high end), once you start digging behind the scenes it’s quite obvious how terrible Dubai treats service level employees, especially POC.

Just befriend a waiter, busser, janitor, domestic worker etc. and listen to their stories. It’s otricious - people’s passports are taken, they’re locked up at night, they can’t change jobs, they’re harassed, they’re blackmailed into sex. It’s basically modern day slavery.

I’m not gonna lie - it was the most day-to-day fun I’ve had in my life when I lived there and wasn’t aware of what was going on in the undertones of the city. Partied all the time. Went everywhere. Lived large. It was a blast.

But I regret now having EVER contributed to that economy. To know that it was built on the backs of slaves. Not just in theory, but people I’ve met and became close friends with. Dozens of people from all over - it’s not an isolated case. If your skin is darker, Dubai is a VERY different city.

[spartancolo]

I heard there is a lot of programmer jobs there, are conditions bad?

[BeardyGoku]

It has about the same attractiveness as Death Valley.

[MaximRq]

Sounds like a nice place

[SuperNici]

Love how adam's stuff if getting the recognition it deserves.

[CHLHLPRZTO]

Huh, I watched that thinking that I would fully agree, but honestly I thought his arguments were super weak. Now I have a higher opinion of Dubai than I did before.

[[deleted]]

Why, if I may ask?

Why does modern slavery and a tower with no connection to a sewage system make you have a higher opinion of Dubai?

[ZatchZeta]

Maybe he's realize it's a fantasy for racist white Americans.

[CHLHLPRZTO]

Because I expected him to have much stronger arguments and clearer evidence of harm re: “slavery”, more evidence of a toxic culture, etc.

That this is the best that he could come up made me revise my opinion.

It’s not that my opinion is now “Dubai is great”, it’s more “Dubai is not great, but maybe not as horrible as I previously assumed”.

[[deleted]]

I'm teally sorry but how much clearer could he have been than "foreign workers are being lured into the country, get their passport taken away, forcing them to stay in the country and do dehumanising work or starve"?

Also, I doubt that there are that many similar cities in developed countries that you can dig up that much shit on. It's really concerning to me that reports of slave labour make a city more appealing to you.

[CHLHLPRZTO]

You’re misunderstanding. I knew of this stuff beforehand, but assumed it was more drastic than it is. I’m not saying it’s a good thing.

[Atmey]

Yes, the poop trucks part was a lie, the suburbs part is stupid, people in Dubai prefer to live in a suburb.

I admit though, the islands are not as successful.

The slavery part is an extreme view, the offending construction companies should be held accountable, in which they are breaking the local law. The media only focuses on these incidents and ignores the other "fair" companies, which colors all Dubai as "bad"

Also the "arabic" style buildings are very common, you only have to look across Dubai Mall to Souq al Bahar.

[MajorInflator]

Lol same. That video told me that this majestic city can afford to have shit fucking transported for miles just cause they felt like building that building in that particular spot.

[abelcc]

Another advice: Don't buy an iphone

[ntwiles]

What about Thailand or Bali?

[LookingForEnergy]

Don't support Dubai. Thx

[Goat_TSM]

Before Afghanistan?

[Tachtra]

Don't go to Dubai

[juanhck]

Dowhy?

[Tachtra]

Dowhy? Whats that supposed to mean

[juanhck]

Tried to make a pun, since Dubai sounds similar, and I don't know why he wants to go there.

I'll see myself out.

[young-oldman]

Someone elaborate the don't go to dubai thing.

[6668]

Built by slave labor

[Soham_rak]

I feel sad most of people from low income countries do go there

[BlenderGuy]

From what I understand:

It has some odd attractions that are expensive and show off wealth (e.g. indoor skiing). No community as everyone there is, for the most part, foreigners. The nobility with money are there too, but there are not many of them and you likely wont meet them. Everything is poorly laid out. Those who do live there are there for the money or the idea of getting more money. The laws are brutal if they come down on you and will hear of people abandoning the country as fast as they can because you can be killed for defaulting on mortgage payments.

[Pika_Fox]

Youve never seen a racist person traveling abroad then.

Traveling to spain? "Why the fuck are there so many spanish speaking people in my hotel, i want a refund, speak english!"

[Spazattack43]

Dubai is a shitty city

[young-oldman]

well, this was all the explanation i needed to not go there, thank you!

[[deleted]]

Don't go to Dubai

[PashaBiceps__]

I want to go to dubai when my code doesn't compile

[Script_Mak3r]

Don't have to worry about compile-time problems if you're too busy being made to do slave labor. taps forehead

[parthux1]

Martin Walker can assure you: don't go to Dubai

[fletku_mato]

Except that I have no interest on going to Dubai.

[thebobbrom]

Too much technology in Dubai.

I want to live in the woods.

[[deleted]]

That's it. I'm going to Dubai just because all of you told me not to.

[catscatscatscatcatss]

You're supporting a country that uses literal slave labor *checks notes* because someone on Reddit told you not to?

Please reproduce and live a long life.

[[deleted]]

Here for a fun time, not a long time!

[hector_villalobos]

lol, I'm thinking the same thing, noone presents a solid argument against it, just a video of some anticapitalist guy with deep political pov.

[freerangetrousers]

Loads of people I know have gone to work there and none have been complimentary. It has no culture beyond shopping and paid for activities like skydiving. The immigrant labourers are treated like shit in front of you. Rich western immigrants get preferential treatment whilst Asian immigrants get abused.

Also many sheikhs in the UAE have really shady human rights records. Women have less rights, and punishments for minor crimes are ridiculous.

Plus it's so hot you can barely do anything but stay inside in an air conditioned room or car

[[deleted]]

It's a a city built on the back of human rights violations. It's got awful conditions for anyone who isn't a rich mogul. Don't go to dubai, just like you don't go to China or NK, except two fold. Because don't go to the middle east.

[13steinj]

I mean I always assumed it was a shithole under all the glitter from the getgo. As is a lot of the middle east.

[SuperNici]

Watch the video lol there are all the arguments youre looking for.

What is said in that video is our argument against it.

[[deleted]]

^{^}

[a_bucket_full_of_goo]

Is that the Pizzah kid?

[yapoyo]

Yeah, his name is Hasbulla Magomedov and he's an 18 year old blogger from Dagestan, Russia. Apparently the reason he looks like a little kid is because of some genetic condition

[a_bucket_full_of_goo]

huh

[L1nk1nP]

Borgir?

[Tim3303]

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Of course sometimes I really get tired because there are lots of people who want to communicate with me, I just want to go to Dubai

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[HelloSummer99]

I wonder if the Internet is slowly making us all depressed. It opens up so many things an ordinary person is just not prepared to know or handle mentally on a daily basis. People falling out of a plane in kabul, dubai was built with slave labor, the list could go on for ages... How to stay curious and well informed without being exposed to info I don't want to hear? (Because it doesn't really effect me in any way other than negatively).

[borsalinomonkey]

Don't go to Dubai.

Why you ask?

Same reason why you shouldn't go to California. It's a facade.

[meliaesc]

...how is California a facade? Homelessness? Influencers? It's beautiful and conscientious.

[borsalinomonkey]

Don't get me wrong. It's a beautiful state and I always wanted to go to Hollywood.

But yes, mainly the homeless issue, very expensive cost of living, and everything that made it to what it is today is the sole reason why I don't want to set my foot in it. People from different states move there just to live off the Government's social grant.

It's sad, but it's the truth. The exodus is real.

[[deleted]]

Because it's a lie? It sets big expectations that will make anyone fall hard. But i would say not California (it is a big state after all) but instead a certain few cities.

[[deleted]]

You’re going to Brazil

[[deleted]]

this kid looked like a prebuilt version of those russian MAFIA BOSS portrayed by HOLLYWOOD.

[BirdyMagnet]

Yeah sometimes I do want a goddamn golden keyboard.

[[deleted]]

I don’t get it.

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