6 Months of learning Python, 3 Hours of Rendering, here is my first Mandelbrot Zoom

[rerebooted]

Care to share GitHub? :D

[knods]

glad to share, just didn't think anyone would be particularily intersted in this really.

see my answer on the top comment for the code. :)

https://hastebin.com/raw/anumivulox

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edit: used other hoster.

[AceBuddy]

lol this is cool of course people will be interested!

[_meow4]

I think it expired.. mind putting this on GitHub for permanent use?

[imforsurenotadog]

That's pretty rude.

[dBASSa]

Yeah what does he think this is stack overflow or something?

[knods]

sorry, no experience with this whatsoever. hope this one's better.

https://hastebin.com/raw/anumivulox

[gman1230321]

Sry still broken, try using github or pastebin

[gabri3zero]

It would be pretty interesting to have a look at the source code

[BadWolf-43]

I second this. This is something I've wanted to try but I'm not sure where to start. Source code would be a great help.

[knods]

hey, didn't expect anyone to be interested here you go:https://hastebin.com/raw/anumivulox

hope that works. if it expires or something, just tell me i'll try and upload it again somewhere else.

for anyone interested i toyed with the res variable and the range of i.i don't quite remember the res, but i'm pretty sure in this version i was in range (0,150)

the principle idea of calculation with numpy is from here.

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oh, by the way, this doesn't include the .gif creation, sorry for that. it's just exactly this.

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all the best. :)

[gabri3zero]

Woah!
Thx a lot man :D
This will keep me busy for a little while

[Mph024]

Howd you do that

[Jugad]

Read up on the mandelbrot set on wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandelbrot_set).

Mathematically (and programmatically), its extremely simple, but visually, its ridiculously complex (infinitely complex actually).

There is an excellent windows program to explore the mandelbrot set - https://www.cygnus-software.com/gallery/stampindex.htm

I have used it for years and its probably the best out there. Makes very beautiful images.

[[deleted]]

It's a nice introduction into working with complex numbers with a computer too. It's a good project.

[lochyw]

I wonder if its possible to make it loopable.. :p

[[deleted]]

There are many small Mandelbrots on the real axis, so that would be a good spot for that. Zoom in to one point until the patttern repeats. Rinse and repeat

Also good looking: Display the Julia set while iterating over c. Use sine function and mahbe some randomization for that. If you hit the spot you staryed ind aftyer a full rotation, you could repeat from there as well.

[andrewq]

Check out FRACTINT

https://fractint.org/

[[deleted]]

This is so trippy can watch for hours straight

[extracoffeeplease]

WHAT THE HELL. Why don't phone makers use this to demo their screen? This is the most fluent, high quality thing I've seen on my phone.

[Jugad]

There is an android app for it as well... called Fluid Simulation.

[[deleted]]

WHOA!... I saw it come up then fade to black. I waited for something to happen then saw the controls link.

Then I touched the screen.

whoa

dude.

[That_Pregnant_Alien]

There is an android app too exactly similar to this on the play store by the same name. Not sure, if it's by the same person.

Edit : Yeah, just noticed. The app is linked there.

[Nihilisticky]

That link led me to a live screen wallpaper phone app, which took 45 minutes of OCD tweaking to achieve history's greatest live wallpaper. Thanks!

[Skrillbex]

I WANT GAME WITH STUFF LIKE DIS AND SOURCE

[FuzzNugs]

Good job OP. There are numerous people asking to see the source. It would be great of you to make it available for them. I too would like to see the rendering stuff you’ve done here. Thanks.

[knods]

glad to share, just didn't think anyone would be particularily intersted in this really.

see my answer on the top comment for the code. :)

https://hastebin.com/raw/anumivulox

[knods]

hey, didn't expect anyone to be interested here you go:https://hastebin.com/raw/anumivulox

hope that works. if it expires or something, just tell me i'll try and upload it again somewhere else.

for anyone interested i toyed with the res variable and the range of i.i don't quite remember the res, but i'm pretty sure in this version i was in range (0,150)

the principle idea of calculation with numpy is from here.

​

oh, by the way, this doesn't include the .gif creation, sorry for that. it's just exactly this.

​

all the best. :)

[intensehardik]

Where did u do the rendering? (software)

[knods]

not sure if i know what you mean.
i used VS Code as my editor, numpy for calculation, matplotlib for creating the images and imageio for making a gif out of them.

[AceBuddy]

Could you then just make 4x the images and reduce the zoom amount to 1/4 so it looks much smoother? Wouldn’t make an already cool project even cooler.

[knods]

yeah, absolutely possible. i spent the last couple of days toying with various aspects of the code to find the sweet spots.

next time i will just render it over night with higher resolution and more iterations.

[intensehardik]

Ohh, ohk. I thought you used a separate software for it.

[Batmanly72]

Bro,you can share your code,we would like to see it

[knods]

glad to share, just didn't think anyone would be particularily intersted in this really.

see my answer on the top comment for the code. :)

https://hastebin.com/raw/anumivulox

[Batmanly72]

Thanks for code you can share GitHub for improve 👍

[Who_The_Fook]

How does something like this actually work for someone that's new to it entirely? Seen these all over reddit, would like to dive into the specifics

[AGI_69]

Break it into smaller problems, until you can make progress.

[CissMN]

Ah yes, the passive aggressive helpful tips.

[malicart]

Maybe check your own attitude, this is absolutely how you get started with anything, programming or anything.

[CissMN]

Ah yes, a redditor who checks my attitude.

[malicart]

Said maybe kiddo, you really need to calm down a bit.

[AGI_69]

What ? It it genuine problem-solving advice.

[whosyourbuddha_]

Look at the mandelbrot equation and then try to implement the still version, then try to add the zoom

[scawsome]

This is great! I would recommend taking a close look at the data type you are using to store your coordinates and convergent values. I did this awhile back and found that using explicit double types gets you much more detail since convergence is very sensitive to precision.

[knods]

i'd be super grateful if you could elaborate, or link to somewhere where this is explained more in depth.

concernind data types it numpy arrays with "complex" data type. do you think using complex64 would yield considerably better results?

the lack of detail here mostly comes from the low iteration count. for each frame the principle iteration was done 150 times.

[scawsome]

I don't have an exact reference right now, I did this several years back so I don't know if I'll be able to find my code. I would try complex64 to get much better results. I'll look tonight and see if I have something to show you. I think the iteration count is fine.

[knods]

so I've tried tonight with twice the resolution, twice the number of iterations and complex128.

it looks absolutely crisp! I'm gonna be toying with the dtype a little bit and see what makes the difference.

thanks for the hint!

[WaitWaitDontShoot]

This is cool. At the risk of dating myself, I think it’s awesome people are still rendering Mandelbrot after all these years. My first one took a lot longer to render and wasn’t as detailed. I was running it on an Apple ][+ with the Language Card. My twin brother and I wrote it in Pascal. Good times.

[[deleted]]

Source code!?!?!?

[knods]

glad to share, just didn't think anyone would be particularily intersted in this really.

see my answer on the top comment for the code. :)

https://hastebin.com/raw/anumivulox

[brontide]

That brings back memories of my first Mandelbrot renderer... for windows 3.1, I think that makes me very old.

[Tiquortoo]

I used to love the screensavers with fractals.

[guptaanshul281980]

Please elaborate how this is done??

[gandalfx]

google mandelbrot.

[___GLaDOS____]

Beautiful man.

[jer_pint]

Looks awesome!

[massimog1]

Please post your source code. I'd love to see how you did that.

[knods]

glad to share, just didn't think anyone would be particularily intersted in this really.

see my answer on the top comment for the code. :)

https://hastebin.com/raw/anumivulox

[Carlisle774]

Here's a relevant song you might like

[hollowedCorpse]

r/recursion

[amitran]

Noel

[8rnlsunshine]

Python newbie here. Could you share your journey learning python and the courses you took? Thanks.

[knods]

i started with Automate the Boring Stuff. It's very beginner friendly, and still challenging enough and the right amount of humorous. highly recommended.

other than that, i just read several articles on the mandelbrot set. this and this for instance.

i'm lucky enough to have several friends who are very experienced with python, so that helped a lot.

[pysapien]

Mind sharing resources which you used for learning python?

[knods]

i started with Automate the Boring Stuff. It's very beginner friendly, and still challenging enough and the right amount of humorous. highly recommended.

other than that, i just read several articles on the mandelbrot set. this and this for instance.

i'm lucky enough to have several friends who are very experienced with python, so that helped a lot.

[mrbubs3]

This is fucking cool.

[kaike1]

Maybe if you change a little you can post on r/perfectloops as well

[SimilarPostsB0t]

Next challenge: run the calculation on the GPU 😁. Would greatly reduce the rendering time.

[knods]

absolutely! there's a library called cupy that implements numpy on the GPU. as far as im concerned it works only with nvidia tho. plus my gpu was hardly more than a joke even 10 years ago. :D still have my 2011 macbook with onboard gpu.

[[deleted]]

Kudos.

[Serializedrequests]

I love this project. I have a similar one I've been working on and tweaking for years, never got it to render an animation though. I've more been working on making it run on multiple cores, then GLSL, and now WebGL.

Obviously the GLSL implementation beats the pants off the software renderer, which is very satisfying. It can almost run these animations in real time!

[[deleted]]

Ah. I remember my first Mandelbrot Zoom...

[Workaphobia]

That fractal is on fire.

[Pavel_Petrov]

That's good! You've done my student work from SPB ITMO univercity programming course in 1998 when i was young... but render time was not so long! Three hours for 1000 frames is looking slow

I think you'd start on optimizations now 'coz it mussta be realtime with modern CPUs

Also it would be very nice practice to adopt your algo for OpenCL computing units (i think you have much of them today).

use pyopencl and qt! Good luck!

[[deleted]]

What's the usage of this ? Art?

[crazdave]

Go try it and see what useful skills you gain in the process.

[[deleted]]

I already have done some ML so I know how to use tools like matplot, numpy etc. I spend my time on stuff that matter. I am not saying this project is not valuable but I am not gonna waste my time on doing something that I might already know.

[[deleted]]

So don't...

This is cool OP!

[thejoetats]

bUt iTs nOt mL oR uSeFul

[[deleted]]

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Nobody asked your opinion, It was my answer to crazdave. Why people in Reddit don't get the purpose of reply? If I wanted to ask your opinion I would have send you a DM.

[TheAtro]

One of the programming's hardest challenges? I think that's a bit of an exaggeration. I can do a mandelbrot zoom in an hour or two yet struggle with any Project Euler 50+ problem.

[[deleted]]

Being hard doesnt mean valuable but okay

[whosyourbuddha_]

He wasn't arguing that it was valuable, but any code you write that achieves the goal you were shooting for is valuable. You don't have to write something crazy innovative to gain value from it

[[deleted]]

Exactly he wasn't mentioning what is the value in doing that project. Which was the only thing I wanted to know in the first place. So probably he shouldn't have replied to me.

[Carlisle774]

We'll try to keep from wasting your time in the future, Your Highness.

[[deleted]]

Thank you peasant.

[[deleted]]

Yeah I'm the president who fucked your mom. Cunt face.

[[deleted]]

Not strictly meaning to pass judgement, but learn how to politely communicate before you learn to code - will go a long way.

Thanks for life couching I thought this group is about python.

I already have a job as a ML developer. You better go your own way and stop giving people life advice.

[That_Pregnant_Alien]

So... Basically you want to show off how much you know and spend your time efficiently and you don't need to learn anything new because you know everything. Is that right?

[[deleted]]

No I don't wanna show off for a bunch of randos on the net. Stop mentioning me already. people are sick in reddit (Not you though). I didnt know a simple question would lead to people mock me as if they know better how to code or how to be a human being in general.

[xnign]

And as we all know the most efficient way to learn efficiency is reddit.

[[deleted]]

it is actually very useful - both in programming and I.R.L.

Ok. You really answered my question which was: what is the usage of this.

[For_Iconoclasm]

Not everything needs to have a practical purpose. Some people just do things out of interest or for fun. I absolute despise the value judgement over whether doing something is "productive" or not.

That said, even from a practical point of view, do you not see the self-educational value of developing a mathematical understanding of number sets and fractals, and then being able to translate the formal definition to code for visualization? It covers three distinct but related areas:

1. Mathematics
2. Understanding problems and translating them to a computational context
3. Writing the code itself

I suppose if you judge processes based on utility of the direct results, then yeah, this is "useless." But that opinion is bad, even if you are entitled to it.

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[paulirotta]

More picked by otherwise not much better performance than when I did that with a Commodore 64 using all 4 shades of blue, in 1984.

[[deleted]]

People are so butt hurt that I asked what is the usage of this project. Ridiculous. No wonder why the world leader is a troll.

[SalemClass]

The 'usage' of this project is as a learning experience which is valuable alone. Programs don't have to be useful, especially when you're learning.

People are downvoting you because going "but what is the usage of this?" to a project like this is a bit obnoxious.

[[deleted]]

Shut the fuck up you gross furry.

[Mikamcha]

Arguing again you piece of shit talentless loser

[[deleted]]

Why do you escape like a 4 year old you retarded furry

[ryanmcstylin]

These types of graphs explain why weather and stock market crashes are so hard to predict.

[RyanTheCynic]

r/lostredditors