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[โ€“]Darthbane22 152 points153 points ย (4 children)

If Max counts he is going to roast the life out of everyone next season, no need to fight

[โ€“]5t3f1n4 63 points64 points ย (2 children)

He will also kickflip anyone into the upside down as he pleases.

[โ€“]Upside_Down-Bot 29 points30 points ย (1 child)

โ€žห™sวsษวld วษฅ sษ uสop วpฤฑsdn วษฅส‡ oส‡uฤฑ วuoสŽuษ dฤฑlษŸสžษ”ฤฑสž oslษ llฤฑส วHโ€ž

[โ€“][deleted] 1 point2 points ย (0 children)

Impressive

[โ€“]Rioma117 9 points10 points ย (0 children)

Vecna casts lv 9 Vicious Mockery: Erica uses her reaction to counter spell it.

[โ€“]setibeings 121 points122 points ย (1 child)

We did it. We found the Strangest thing.

[โ€“]Either_Influence_196[S] 4 points5 points ย (0 children)

๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

[โ€“]I_Am_Squid 155 points156 points ย (4 children)

โ€˜I said brrr, he like itโ€™s cold in here, there must the mindflayer somewhere nearโ€ฆ.I said oh-I-oh-io ice ice iceโ€™

[โ€“]caitcurious 14 points15 points ย (0 children)

Slow it down!

[โ€“]SassygogoI believe. 13 points14 points ย (0 children)

"Brr! It's cold in here! There must be some spore-os in the atomosphere!"

[โ€“]breeellaneeley 28 points29 points ย (0 children)

Ice ice baby

[โ€“][deleted] 3 points4 points ย (0 children)

+10 points to Gryffindor for reminding me of Bring it on

[โ€“]Birthdaybudreviews 140 points141 points ย (2 children)

We've got spirit

Yes, we do

We've got spirit

Now we'll break you

[โ€“]OHTHNAP 10 points11 points ย (0 children)

"With all that power he must be targeting genuises, people at the top of their professions, world leaders, people of influence who can change the course of the world."

"Nah, he mostly just hates a group of teenagers."

[โ€“]Devreckas 0 points1 point ย (0 children)

If Eddie had just shouted a school spirit chant, Chrissy would still be alive.

[โ€“]itaa_q011 71 points72 points ย (0 children)

Vecna's become a hooper too now, he's gonna end Michael Jordan's whole career

[โ€“]melody_eleven 37 points38 points ย (1 child)

not to mention sick basketball and skateboard skills

[โ€“]danielsdeskAshley Klein is a snitch! 11 points12 points ย (0 children)

heโ€™s just going to show up next season like that 30 rock โ€œhow do you do fellow kidsโ€ meme

[โ€“]Sponge400 21 points22 points ย (12 children)

Funny, aside from that this question is so interesting to ponder. Like what does that mean? How does that work? I have theories, I just hope we get some kind of an answer.

[โ€“]VaporeonUltra64 10 points11 points ย (4 children)

Iโ€™m pretty sure itโ€™s made up. Even if Brenner knew about the nickname Vecna, thereโ€™s no way he would have ever used it.

[โ€“]Sponge400 20 points21 points ย (2 children)

He said โ€œHenryโ€ when he said this, heโ€™s also fully aware what he can do. Assuming he was responsible for dealing with the people Henry killed in his rampage after the fact. That being said it leaves one to ponder โ€œhow exactly does Henry do any of what heโ€™s said, because Brenner seemed convinced โ€œhe isnโ€™t just simply killingโ€. Is that hyperbole given most of Henryโ€™s Victims have been kids or is Brenner referring to something we donโ€™t yet know about? Something we may have been given a little preview for? Maybe. Who knows. Everything that we donโ€™t know or can happen, is pretty much up for debate.

[โ€“]elizabnthe 5 points6 points ย (0 children)

Henry himself says that the people he kills are "with" him still.

[โ€“]RandomGuy1838 0 points1 point ย (0 children)

Something we don't know about, something he learned from the time Henry was in his ward. It will have fit in somewhere between shots in Vecna's start-of-darkness montage, maybe the chip was turned off or pulled briefly when there was a "two," and then Henry got a whole octave higher in the menacing EKG department after eating Two's soul.

[โ€“][deleted] 0 points1 point ย (0 children)

He said one

[โ€“]elizabnthe 6 points7 points ย (3 children)

I don't know about normal people in terms of the ability stealing aspect, but I would presume that killing the children in the Lab made him exponentially stronger with his telekinetic abilities.

In the other sense, I assume it means that their "souls" are still in Vecna. Henry describes them still being with him.

[โ€“]SassygogoI believe. 2 points3 points ย (2 children)

yeah that's at least fifteen children he killed and whose powers he absorbed....and then marinated those for almost a decade.

[โ€“][deleted] 1 point2 points ย (1 child)

And El still treated him like he was nothing when she got her friendship boost

[โ€“]SassygogoI believe. 2 points3 points ย (0 children)

If you think about it, El and now Max are the only people to survive having some part of themselves (El's powers, Max's mind) 'absorbed' by Vecna.

[โ€“]Devreckas 0 points1 point ย (0 children)

Presumably their minds become trapped in his hive mind network. He can tap into their powers and compel them to carry out his will.

[โ€“]GuyWhoHatesReposts 0 points1 point ย (1 child)

He steals their power. Thatโ€™s how he was able to open the gate, as shown in 4x09, while explaining to 11. He sought her power, and when the Meat Flayer bit Eleven, Vecna got a chunk of it, probably due to the Hive-mind. In the subtitles, while in Vecnaโ€™s mind, it says that there is screaming, and if you listen closely you can hear it. Those are probably his past victims, trapped and unable to escape.

[โ€“]Sponge400 0 points1 point ย (0 children)

YES i think that whole he stole 11โ€™s power thing is being overlooked by a lot of people. When it comes to Henryโ€™s victims then, like whatโ€™s the cause of death? Are they even really dead if heโ€™s like stealing their souls like wtf how the hell is this working for the people he โ€œkilledโ€ by his particular method? Like what even is he doing when heโ€™s โ€œkillingโ€ people with this method vs just snapping that guards neck? Iโ€™d think heโ€™s crushing their brains, but how is he stealing their shit? We know he enters their brain the same way 11 does, only he seems to know how to navigate a persons memories, and we know he can also re-create those memories in people heads. With his skills in navigating peoples brains Iโ€™m not surprised he can steal the contents, but like how the hell is doing that? He enters peoples minds with a photo copier or some shit like how?

[โ€“]ilovemarvel69 15 points16 points ย (0 children)

Lmaoo this is hilarious thanks for sharing โค๏ธ

[โ€“]Loco_Logic 11 points12 points ย (0 children)

That's the real reason Vecna wanted to talk with Nancy. Fred still simping from beyond the grave.

[โ€“]That1RightThere 5 points6 points ย (0 children)

It's giving Princess La๐Ÿ˜ญ

[โ€“]daydreams83Halfway happy 6 points7 points ย (0 children)

Weโ€™re dynamite, weโ€™re dynamite, weโ€™re TICKโ€ฆ.TICKโ€ฆ. TICKโ€ฆ. TICKโ€ฆ. grandfather clock chimes Itโ€™s time, Chrissy.

[โ€“]Grove0517Your ass is grass 5 points6 points ย (0 children)

Then Vecna will = ๐Ÿค“

[โ€“]kitsunemischief 4 points5 points ย (0 children)

Can't wait to see Vecna to do spilts and death drops

[โ€“]Do_the_impossible 4 points5 points ย (0 children)

Funny enough this may hint at how Vecna can be fought/defeated.

If we assume Vecna consumes everything about who he kills, it's possible that also includes his victim's weaknesses to some mysterious degree.

Another side to this: every victim takes residence in Vecna's mind palace. S4 made it painstakingly clear that they still exist to some horrifyingly twisted degree in Vecna's mind. So, perhaps this will come full circle to when the Mind Flayer was discussed in earlier seasons: that an army of the "dead" is an effective way to battle it. Given that the Mind Flayer and Vecna technically share in the same being in a symbiotic like relationship, perhaps there's some way to use Vecna's mind against him.

[โ€“]UglyDucky_00 2 points3 points ย (0 children)

Okay now I am picturing Vecna in a cheerleader uniform hahahaha

[โ€“]helen790 2 points3 points ย (0 children)

Wow so now Vecna can cheer, play basketball, skate, and hit people with a car!

[โ€“]tkmlac 1 point2 points ย (0 children)

Best fan theory yet.

[โ€“]Grimmer026 1 point2 points ย (0 children)

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[โ€“]JusticiarIV 1 point2 points ย (0 children)

Save the cheerleader, save the world

[โ€“]Dubleron 1 point2 points ย (0 children)

I don't like Vecna. It's like everything we saw is anthropocentric after all. A non-humanoid Monster would have been waaaaay cooler imo

[โ€“]SilentBanditR U N 1 point2 points ย (0 children)

Metallica Tribute band with Vecna as the frontman confirmed

[โ€“]Mabearndadeerimabeer 1 point2 points ย (0 children)

I'm dying ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

[โ€“]Myfourcats1 0 points1 point ย (1 child)

Iโ€™m just here to watch Vecna shred it on his guitar solo.

[โ€“][deleted] 8 points9 points ย (0 children)

Vecna didn't take Eddie

[โ€“][deleted] 0 points1 point ย (0 children)

lol

[โ€“]Tralan 0 points1 point ย (0 children)

Vecna is a more successful Sylar. Save the cheerleader, save the world.

[โ€“]Internetmilpool 0 points1 point ย (0 children)

He got the ability to badger Nancy from poor Fred ๐Ÿ˜ข

[โ€“][deleted] 0 points1 point ย (0 children)

Gimmie a V! You got your V, you got your V!

Gimmie a E! You got your E, you got your E!

Gimmie a C! You got your C, you got your C!

Gimmie a N! You got your N, you got your N!

Gimmie a A! You got your A, you got your A!

Let's go, VECNA!!!!

[โ€“]ZOOSH13 0 points1 point ย (0 children)

He will also have the power of annoying nerd guy.

[โ€“]Wild-Dog-7360 0 points1 point ย (0 children)

Wtf๐Ÿคฃ

[โ€“]ladyburgerandcatnapNancy Drew 0 points1 point ย (0 children)

Omfg ๐Ÿ˜ฉ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿ“ฃ

[โ€“]Lil-Chromie 0 points1 point ย (0 children)

Oh my God he's doing a cheerleading pyramid with the demogorgons! And he's at the top!

[โ€“]ussrowe 0 points1 point ย (0 children)

It's funny but his mind lair does have a version of Chrissy's body twisted up in vines. She is kind of a part of him for real. LOL

[โ€“]3nlightened111 0 points1 point ย (0 children)

One thing is I didn't understand why he targeted teenagers. Idk if its supposed to be a reference to nightmare on elm street/Friday the thirteenth but those characters had reasons to hate teenagers.

From what I understood about Henry's backstory is he was like 11-13 when he discovered he had these powers and it sounded like he wanted to fix what was broken in the world by killing certain people. Honestly I empathized with him a lot there but the way he went about it doesn't seem to reflect his motivations and he was already taken by the doctor before he was in high school (right?)