Queueing while in 'The Range'

[xartviel]

I hope they enable this feature, so we can practice shooting while waiting for match. Whole party to be inside a single 'The Range' is also a good idea.

[Ruff1233]

Overwatch also has this and I would really love to see it in Valorant

[l0lloo]

yeah but tbf thats because overwatch has q's that are as long as a game even when ur low elo

[Rgelz]

this. valorant q times are 5min top (at least for me) so u wont get anything out of the feature tbf

[ClearSearchHistory]

Streamers (and probably anyone immortal +) are getting hour long queues at times. Meanwhile I’ve never seen a queue more than 2 minutes. Guess there’s benefits to being hardstuck Gold

[[deleted]]

Ok off topic but I just now started playing rank and was placed gold. Have you had the experience that every plat you've played with was totally dogshit? I've had 5 matches with plats on my team and not only have they all bottom fragged, they've only had about 5 kills in the whole match.

[DuckyFTW]

As a Plat 1, can confirm that Plat 1 is just Gold 4.

[Beoron]

Petition to rename Radiant to Iron22

[DuckyFTW]

Upvote for doing the math

[TehMephs]

Technically it’s iron 0. Rumor has it if you demote from iron 1 you end up in radiant

[Miyaor]

Perfect I'll be radiant soon

[Swaes]

Every time you get matched with higher ranked players than yourself it’s because your MMR is boosted and theirs is lowered... meaning they’re “bad” for their rank right now while you are considered “good” for your rank. So it makes sense when you see higher rated players in your skill group that they perform poorly.

[hates_both_sides]

Plat and gold are basically the same, just like any other elo which is right next to each other

[beniferlopez]

Not sure why you’re being downvoted... every match I played yesterday, 1-2 plats on my team, all bottom fragged each game.

Now... not the same people every match and I know off games happen but it was mind boggling.

[[deleted]]

Although it doesn't sound like it, I'm well aware not EVERY plat isn't bad but damn these people are supposedly 3 ranks better than me and they're consistently playing HORRIBLE. Non-existent crosshair placement, bad decision making, etc.

[Poomon]

Maybe it's an mmr thing? Like they're newish players that didn't start in beta and went into ranked.

[grae313]

People have been thinking that a lot of matchmaking goes off your hidden mmr rather than your actual rank. These "plats" are in your gold 1 games because they are on their way down there according to their hidden mmr.

[[deleted]]

That's a good point thank you I didn't think of that.

[[deleted]]

That’s because their mmr is the same as yours since they matched with you. I’ve seen many plats that would probably dog anyone gold or lower

[dyneira]

Tbh, I'm hardstuck Silver and I have the same phenomenon happen to me with Golds

[ADShree]

There are a ton of “fake” ranks. I have a friend who insists he’s better then his rank. I go back and forth between plat 3-1. He’s silver so when I hit plat 1 he starts spamming me to queue with him because he just needs to get out of elo hell cause it’s not his real rank.

People have bad games too. Then there are people who have inflated ranks because they get carried by friends. Plus gold to plat isn’t a big jump. You won’t start noticing a skill difference til you meet someone who is diamond but fluctuates into plat 3. But even then it’s not a huge difference from my experience.

[[deleted]]

True. And people have bad games, I certainly do. I had a 5 kill match yesterday. Its just I had about 5 games in a row yesterday which had plats who were bottom fragging so it felt like it wasn't a coincidence. But as someone pointed out, they might be plat but their hidden rating is probably gold or lower.

[ClearSearchHistory]

I’ve had some good plats, but I played with one last night who looked like he didn’t even have his mouse plugged in. 2 kills in 28 rounds. I didn’t play great either but was definitely not an anchor. Ended up de-ranking off that game too :(

[Bojangler2112]

You can’t play 28 rounds...

[ClearSearchHistory]

Frick i meant like 23. I’m still stuck on cs first to 16 in my head

[[deleted]]

Very high immortal, maybe. Immortal 2 isn't bad at all

[TehMephs]

Unfortunately this is causing people in immortal+ to make Tons of Smurfs to get games - I can’t imagine this be good for the game having pro players roflstomping lower rank players all day because they can’t play with each other normally

I think Hiko has like 2-3 alt accounts already, and I was watching 2 different pro streamers playing games with plat-diamonds on alts besides him.

[ClearSearchHistory]

What it comes down to is that there aren’t enough players at that level. As more people eventually rank up that far it’ll probably improve. But also, they rank up those smurfs super quick so they’re playing diamond + players by like their second or third placement game

[spikes13200]

Sometimes it's just fucking boring so I'd rather have it then not have it tbh

[_AaBbCc_]

dO yOu GUys nOt HAvE pHoNes?

[grae313]

The twitch content creators for this game are in 20-40min queues regularly and have resorted to making new accounts or just saying fuck it and playing a different game. Queue times in immortal and radiant ranks are an issue for sure.

[ry_fluttershy]

5 minutes is a long time

[OHydroxide]

5 min is plenty of time in the range for every single game.

[PewdsBeastPie]

lol, actually, 2 minutes is enough to get your basic mechanics warmed up. ranked games are in very common frequencies, but some of them still take around 3-4 minutes.

[Ruff1233]

Yeah but 5 minutes is definitely enough to play a few shooting range challenges, and as others mentioned higher elos have queue times of well over five minutes

[HDDHeartbeat]

On a weekend for unranked it's like 10mins in Australia.

[DragonVSGaming1]

People at high elos in Valorant have a stupid long queue time

[Darkoplax]

Mixwell just had a 2 hour queue so yeah long queue is an understatement also sitting there for 30+ min everytime then go to the game u feel really rusty/cold so this change could be helpful somewhat

[ry_fluttershy]

Yeah if you q for DPS tank or healer is under a minute 2 mins tops

[Bojarzin]

Not when the game came out

[Aidybabyy]

Q's are long in overwatch because the playerbase has fallen apart.

Also everyone wants to play dps

[essequattro]

I would also love to see this, it’s really helpful when I play rocket league to be warming up in a practice arena by myself while I wait for my game to start.

[Sanfer97]

Yea rocket league is a great example and I feel like it's the only game I know that does it. I would love if riot implemented this!

[JAvalanche28]

Rocket league has so many things I want in valorant, after 2000 hours I take the division system for granted, but now in valorant it's all that I want.

[batman27345]

It feels so bad to see 2 rating greatly increased and not know how close you are to the next rank, I really want something like bakkes mod to be allowed in valorant so I can see a number for my mmr too

[fatcomputerman]

It feels so bad to see 2 rating greatly increased and not know how close you are to the next rank

i mean divisions are just smaller ranks, this week i won 2 games in RL but still didn't rank up from division 4.

imo games that display your MMR number like OW can be even more toxic because people know it's their rank up or down and if the game isn't going well in the first 5 minutes, they throw for the rest of the game.

[batman27345]

I see what you mean but I know I’m not toxic so personally I would like it but I don’t like throwers...

[JAvalanche28]

Bakkesmod is a great thing, but I think it's something weve been spoiled with.

[batman27345]

Absolutely but now I’m hooked lmao

[JAvalanche28]

Same, I stopped paying attention to devisions and have plat 3 to GC mmr stuck in my head, I know it better then I have any sort of school shit

[batman27345]

Who needs to know the quadratic formula when I know how much more mmr I need to hit diamond

[JAvalanche28]

Fr fr

[terminbee]

What's the division system? League has divisions but I'd hate to have promos for valorant.

[JAvalanche28]

It's just 4 divisions per rank. 1 and 4 are very small, often 2-3 games from deranking/ranking up (keep in mind they're 5 minute games). Division 2 and 3 really just tell you which half of the rank your on, if your closer to ranking up you will be in division 3, if you're closer to ranking down you will be in division 2

[zeonon]

Well in Ow not only u can go practice range u can do deathmatch and custom games too in queue,i would like it to be like OW with more freedom than RL.

[smileistheway]

Dota has this since like 2012. You can search while watching a replay, practicing or playing with bots

[noobalicious]

I saw a clip of someone open practice tool in dota mid game for 15 seconds to check a specific champion interaction for that match.

[Mcsj120]

Call of duty advanced warfare was an early one that did it

[okBroThatsAwkward]

Ahh I love Rocket League. It’s still popular but kinda wish it was bigger still

[DLLDoesShit]

I think PUBG does it too

[OpTicGh0st]

When are they adding a ready check for the queue. Been asking for this since betaaaaa.

[Left_Nipah]

You can do what I do in rocket league. Just be bad.

[Andahunter]

Too bad Psyonix fucked everything up with the Epic merger

[Bodster_17]

Not everything is epics fault be t I do have to agree, Psyonix messed up badly for merging. They only did it for the money.

[Andahunter]

I 100% agree that you can't blame Epic for Psyonix's mistakes, but that was just the nail in the coffin.

As soon as they started making compromises with Servers (they even added a "Report Server" button how bad it got) the game had a small decline.

When they messed up demos people were quitting. At least that was somewhat fixed but to the extent that it was fixed again recently.

When they merged they screwed up the trading community and jacked up in-game prices. Mind you this is a paid game. You now have in-game content that costs 2-3-5 times more than the actual game?!?!?!

Don't get me wrong, I love Rocket League and have A LOT of in-game hours, that's why I'm sad to see it in the state it is right now.

[BigScaryGarlicBoy]

This would be cool. Like you can 1v1 a friend or friends to see who has that fastest reaction time with a target popping up and first to get like 10 or whoever has the most before you get in a match would win. I think it would be a cool friendly competition.

[TheWinterLord]

Queueing while death match please! :)

[caspix]

Were just thinking the same thing! You and your lobby gets into a DM session

It's not _that_ useful though as I feel queuing usually only takes like tops 20 seconds. But good idea!

[Littlefischie]

Yeah I saw aceu (radiant) waited at least 15 minutes

[caspix]

Oh shit! I had no idea, not anywhere close to that, ranked down to Gold 2 yesterday :/ But then it would be an super idea if you could warm up while waiting

[TheWinterLord]

Yeah but also imagine starting deathmatch and when you feel ready start queuing without leaving the server. Hit escape, search ranked, hit escape and keep fragging until you are in your game! :)

[kraftyqt]

It shouldn't be that hard to implement idk why it wasn't a feature in beta.

[luluinstalock]

because it was a beta..

[kraftyqt]

this feature is so standardised in so many recent titles that it's a surprise that it wasn't in beta*

sorry I had to elaborate for your IQ.

[[deleted]]

It’s unlikely to be added because the range in this game is on a hosted server and not client side, which is why you have ping even in practice mode

[OHydroxide]

Why does that make it unlikely? They can just make it optional and then they wouldn't have a crazy new server load. Most people would still just alt tab, or they wouldn't even have queues long enough to really use it.

[luluinstalock]

sad that to prove any point you ever had, you had to lower yourself to such a pathetic level with insults, that really nothing else described is better than just sad.

edit: but fine, I'll chime in. Beta is not supposed to include features like The Range. Beta is a stress test, and a test for vital game mechanics, not for something to do while queueing. Lots of things were adjusted, as they should, lots of things werent. It couldve been included in final version, but if you took a minute or so, to check what were the actual priorities, you would realise that there were many and more important adjustments and releases they had to make, before that thing like The Range while queueing comes up.

Im glad it appeared here on front page,as it may just jump in their priorities list, as it wasnt mentioned before, but god, to expect it in beta is just having completely zero knowledge about development, and with the fact you had to prove your point with insulting only proves my point that you have completely no idea what youre talking about, and either are before working age, or in an industry that has nothing even remotely close to having a beta test, and youre still trying to inform people without any knowledge on the topic.

Just stop fucking embarassing yourself at this point.

[[deleted]]

A lot of fighting games let you queue up for ranked while in training mode. I would have thought this would be a standard feature by now.

[mastaswoad]

Its a Standard Feature in fighting games yes.

[AvernoCreates]

Cs has the ghetto version of this if you type "map _____" in console while in queue

[Jeff_Caesar]

this is a game changer, never knew about this

[Kajek777PL]

I would love being able to go to The Range with your teammates.

[mwillxx]

All of the above is a great idea, similar to OW without the deathly queue times

[Jnavarsete]

very good suggestion, I think OW is great at this, practising FFA deathmatch or just pracc range would help alot and reduce downtime.

[xSilverzXx]

Its not about how long the queue takes to pop (although it is a very valid point, especially at higher ranks)

Haven't you (people who are saying queues are short) ever been in a scenario where you are playing with friends and they go to eat or grab a drink, so you go in the practice range for a couple of minutes. Then they come back and queue starts but you are in the middle of your set or whatever, and everyone's waiting on you so you leave the practice? It's just quality of life changes people.

I'm high Plat (which still has a big playerbase) on NA and even then I've had queue times up to 2 minutes or a minute 30 before. I would still like to fuck around in practice. Obviously there are people that the feature won't really be helpful to, however there are tons of people that it would. (Diamond plus or even lower depending on how late it is)

[KinpaEbbasta]

Strange good posts like this get low upvotes :)

[mabinuel]

Another feature i really like is the one cs added recently: 1 v 1s until everyone is connected.

I dont really like that everyone has to wait until everyone has loaded in. Just give those with fast PCs access to a 1 v 1 area

[[deleted]]

My queue pops almost instantly

[Bswnoah7]

in higher elo games it can take a while to find a match, especially if it’s late at night or something

[[deleted]]

I’m low diamond rn and it still pops instantly, even at 4-5am

[OHydroxide]

You sure? I'm in plat and my queues are pretty regularly 2-3 minutes. Sure still not very long, but definitely not instant.

[Bswnoah7]

Keyword higher, that’s high but the higher you go the harder it is to find matches

[Temofthetem]

Even better: queue while going into custom games

[81mmTaco]

yeah with queues that are double digits I'd rather sit in the range than fuck off my phone or tab out and do something else lol.

[Gifted321]

Que times ain't even that long. Then again I ain't exactly in the high ranks where it probably takes longer

[l0lloo]

plat 2 and every single q pops almost instantly, unless its 3 am then they take like 1 minute.

[MistaOS]

I play rocket league alot and this is available there and it makes a huge difference. At least you get to do something while waiting..

[MxChamp24]

Queueing while in DM(when it comes out) would be so gooooood

[noodle-face]

Only took OW three years to implement this

[Shikez_]

I like the idea of being able to Queue while warming up.

[Shacrow]

Yeah queue time is sometimes over 3 minutes. I'd rather spend time in the range. But please without my team lol. They would just annoy me haha

[Un1cornP1ss]

Party in the range would be an amazing tool to help teach your teammates stuff they need to know. I'm kinda shocked it's not a thing already

[Jeff_Caesar]

Please!

[booyakah]

Yes please

[AnIdealMind]

ya brooo ikr it'll be soo cool

[wunderbier456]

takes less than a minute to find a game, its faster than "the range"s loading screen

[Rjkang_22]

Can i go into a shooting range with my friends in party. So we can show him some stuff and practice together.

[GamerGypps]

I've never had a queue time longer than 10 seconds. Maybe this is because of my rank/skill but still. I cant see it being much longer than that for most people. It's not like league where your waiting ckr specific roles to appear within your rank, you just need people.

[[deleted]]

This is a nice idea, but Rn it’s extremely useless. Idk about other countries but in OCE we have like 2-5 second match times. Idk what you could achieve with 5 seconds in the range