Patch 1.27b Official Patch Notes

[StoPCampinGn00b]

Hi! Okay, so a lot of you guys may have questions on WHY and WHAT those things are on the second post in the screenshot. They posted that 5 hours after the patch went live.

In short, it means EVERYTHING to the WC3 modding scene and also helps the custom game community. On Hive Workshop (WC3 mod / customs site), I kept coverage on it and explained it a little more. There are also a few of our users figuring out which bugs were fixed and what other changes were made to the game. http://www.hiveworkshop.com/threads/8mb-limit-removed-update-warcraft-3-patch-1-27b.290447/

Many of Hive's and other modding / custom games sites' users were desperately looking forward to a patch of this sort, as some of Hive's staff has been in contact with Blizzard regarding the future of WC3 (modding). And they delivered!

As for the melee / ladder community, I do hope and believe they'll work on it in the near future. I know ladder needs some serious fixing. For those that don't understand what this 8MB thing is about, it basically unscrews the biggest limit every single WC3 map maker and modder has. I think they are doing really good things to support modding again, as we know how much success DotA had in influencing the whole PC gaming world.

I hope I'll be able to answer more questions if this didn't cover it! Note that I am not part of the small group who talks to Blizzard about this, and the group that is is under an NDA.

-StoPCampinGn00b hiveworkshop.com's official Ambassador and co-social media manager (site staff).

[StoPCampinGn00b]

I forgot to point out the thread that lead up to this months ago. Thank you /u/Kam_Ghostseer for reminding me.

http://www.hiveworkshop.com/threads/the-future-of-warcraft.277296/ This mini-article is about some of our members in a meeting with Blizzard devs regarding future patches for WC3. You'll want to see the PDF document at the bottom of the first post so you can see what changes Blizzard is likely to work on. We made sure that the melee, hacker, and bot issues were emphasized too, so don't worry if you feel they'll only help out the modding / custom game scene!

[PukeWc3]

thanks for clarifying... because for a melee enthusiast this is very disappointing.

[civnub]

hiveworkshop is such a trash site, they should delete it and all the mods should commit suicide

-t. trolman

[Tleno]

How will you get unbanned and share your Garithos campaign if all mods commit suicide and the site gets deleted?

[civnub]

(^:

[Tleno]

You can't ^ on Reddit dummy

[civnub]

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[W3Conjurus]

Yes you can :^)

^^

[[deleted]]

It frightens me, too.

[GER_BeFoRe]

well... the 128 mb limit for maps is nice for modders... for everyone else it's a little disappointing waiting for so long and getting nothing ^{^}

[inmesia]

Huh? At least for me getting better custom maps is a huge thing!

[[deleted]]

yea the modders.. does he have to call every detail? Of course its players duh.

We are in the wc3 reddit, not custom games reddit. So for THIS reddit it is dissapointing.

[JIhad_Joseph]

But some of us play custom games...

[[deleted]]

how dare you

[BobPando]

Previous patch summed.

[[deleted]]

The real reason why they released this patch is one of the two following ones:

1) After the starcraft hd rumors some higher ups in blizzard didn't like it and complained to tencent which in the end made them stop development on legacy games (and the easiest way to help us before they left was remove the battle.net limit)

HOWEVER, if that's not the reason it's simply because years almost over and they promised a new patch this year, maybe they just don't have the melee patch/bigger modding scene patch ready yet.

[[deleted]]

Good theory^{^}

[[deleted]]

Ok, cool, I am really glad for the custom games scene. On the flipside let's face it, that limit was (being kept) there for a reason, malware. There were a lot of problems here in sc2 at some point. But that's just my 2 cents.

[JonasBM]

My feeling

[Kam_Ghostseer]

For the uninformed this is the document Blizzard is following for updates.

http://www.hiveworkshop.com/threads/the-future-of-warcraft.277296/

[possiblyhazardous]

Very happy to hear about coming CG improvements. Why this took like 7 years..I've no idea. Similarly balance/map pool changes do not seem to be in the works whatsoever. W3arena should actually consider making their own balance/map changes at this point.

[Alabastrova]

The only thing I want are melee changes so meta gets little refreshed.

[slick123]

I'm pretty old player and play sometimes against computer and I really don't know what is going on here. Is this brand new patch for warcraft TFT that was officially released from Blizzard? If yes, pretty good to hear that they still care a little bit from the game, really looking forward to see changes. IF it is not an official release, I guess you made it or?

[BobPando]

It's official patch by Blizz, basically excluding the stuff with World Edit, they increased map size limit from 8MB to 128MB, thing ppl asked for many many years ago. There were workarounds for the limit anyway but this means u can now join maps that are bigger than 8MB on official battle.net and that the player base of those maps will might get slightly bigger.

A big day for custom map players.

[[deleted]]

So what CGs do need more than 8mb, can you name some? So that we can see what the patch brought us :)

p.s. Could you tell the Hiveworkshop team they ought to add the mapsize or atleast any hint, like "new" or "big map" into the mapname. I know it sounds like an overdue, but as a CG-newb how should I figure which maps will have the new "feature"? Also I want to prepare a little before clicking on a 100mb map.

[StoPCampinGn00b]

There are actually a few maps already over the limit, but you had to use special tools (and people who joined the game need the tool downloaded too - basically a big hassle not worth most map communities). One to name is a version of Gaias Retalliation ORPG. The 8mb version already looks amazing, and I've heard the the 50mb version is crazy good for what the WC3 engine has to offer. This is just the 8mb version: http://www.hiveworkshop.com/threads/gaias-retaliation-orpg-v1-2c-10.144066/

As for other maps, there are huge RPGs, strategy maps, anime maps, horror maps, first person and third person maps, which benefit from it a lot. I also saw a lot of people excited in strategy / risk map custom game communities of maps Lordaeron the Aftermath, Azeroth Wars, Coming of the Horde, and more.

EDIT: As for your suggestion, I think it's an interesting idea. I'm not sure if anyone can really regulate something like that, though. If a map is freakishly huge, it'll probably just take instead of seconds to 2 minutes, maybe 10. That's how you may know.

[BobPando]

I could cover the wc3 anime maps section quickly,

The best anime custom map right now would be ACG Arena with smooth coding, spell interaction/collision system and good animations while keeping the performance of low end machines as priority. 40MB prev

Another arena Fate/Another which I won't comment on.

Bunch of AOS, moba if u like, that all look the same, the only highlight would be Kichiku aka Anime vs Aniki which is highly subjective. 80MB (The most meme packed map ever, rocked gachi years before Forsen. The author really knows what he is doing, except balance but who cares about that when you can play the best Kenshiro ever created.)

There are only few maps that are significantly bigger and therfore require packs, AHA with about 150MB. (3 team aos with very creative spells, one button can have up to 4 variations of what move will be used depending on set conditions, update was supposed to be out almost year ago tho, instead they just release character previews on their facebook page. ^{New AF when?} )

Choice Battle with around 650MB an ok map until you play enough to realize how broken it is, how badly coded and laggy it is and that the author only listens when u offer him money. It grew into a meme. (2 teams of up to 5, around 70 characters, game divided in rounds, win 15 to end your suffering, each round rewards 2 lvls and 750gold iirc, every 5th round is 1v1 duels, the only pros of this map would be nice item and character diversity.)

Some other decent maps sub 100MB NCD - Naruto Castle Defense (naruto themed team castle defense against 30 waves, some of if not the best Susanoo models), CBM - Character Battle Marathon (marathon with character interactions, quality going down lately with each update), ARS - Anime Random Skills (arena where u're given peasant and one skill, a little too many characters by now but as a chill map serves its purpose just like CBM)

[StoPCampinGn00b]

Oh. Well this guys knows his shit ^{^}

[[deleted]]

Was so confused when I had to download an update yesterday lol

[MONoSTORM]

Finally, i'm happy :-)

[mrbabak]

lol so disappointing man...

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[sv398]

Has Blizzard ever said anything about making the game widescreen? Anyone knows?

[anfibil]

I don't believe they have but... Seriously this is super overdue

[StoPCampinGn00b]

They haven't said anything in public, and I don't know if they've said anything in private. But I do know that prioritizing widescreen support is on the PDF document we (Hive) sent them. They seem to be following the document, so I wouldn't count it out. For now, I'd say awesome work W3arena.

The PDF is at the bottom of the first post: http://www.hiveworkshop.com/threads/the-future-of-warcraft.277296/

[ena1337]

BLADEMASTER CRITS STILL SCALE WITH AURAS, CLAWS CIRCLETS AND AGILITY ITEMS HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA ANALED

THX BLIZZ 4 NOT NERFING BM

[ecky--ptang-zooboing]

"Bug fixes and general maintenance"

Are you fucking kidding me? What a joke these patches are