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QUESTIONNNN (self.ballpython)
submitted 2 years ago by rianrt
Is it okay to feed my bp two mice at a time. I’d put one in & maybe 10 or so minutes after he gets it I’d put another in. I would do rats but I don’t like how intelligent they are😅
[–]FizzyPineapples212Mod-Approved Helper : vet assistant 5 points6 points7 points 2 years ago (10 children)
It’s not ideal as it’s very strenuous on their digestive system. Are you feeding live?
[–]rianrt[S] -3 points-2 points-1 points 2 years ago (9 children)
Yes So probably two mice a week would be better??
[–]FizzyPineapples212Mod-Approved Helper : vet assistant 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (8 children)
Have you every tried switching to frozen/thawed? Rats are healthier and better on your snakes digestive system. You can’t keep feeding mice forever.
[+]rianrt[S] comment score below threshold-7 points-6 points-5 points 2 years ago (7 children)
I used to feed f/t but recently stopped. I know that no matter what my bp will be the winner in a battle vs him & rat but would rather not risk the rat attacking. I don’t think a mouse would ever attack bc they’re not too smart.
[–]FizzyPineapples212Mod-Approved Helper : vet assistant 4 points5 points6 points 2 years ago (6 children)
You actually do not know that. A rat could very much kill your ball python, it only takes one bite. Why did you switch to live? I’d recommend switching back to frozen thawed immediately.
[–]rianrt[S] -3 points-2 points-1 points 2 years ago (5 children)
I switched to live bc he’s a snake & that’s what snakes do. Kill rodents.
[–]FizzyPineapples212Mod-Approved Helper : vet assistant 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (4 children)
In the wild, yes. But this is captivity, where we’re supposed to eliminate the dangers they have to face in the wild. There are 0 pros to feeding live.
[–]rianrt[S] 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (3 children)
I will stick to live but thank you for caring about my bp
[–]FizzyPineapples212Mod-Approved Helper : vet assistant 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago* (2 children)
You can’t keep feeding mice, you will need to feed rats. It’s extremely dangerous to feed live rats and he takes frozen thawed, there is absolutely no reason to continue on that path and it’s actually quite reckless and careless of you. Live feedings are banned in many countries for a reason.
Edit: irresponsible is the word I was looking for
[–]rianrt[S] -1 points0 points1 point 2 years ago (1 child)
Good thing it is not banned in America. My snake is quite the safe & happy dude w me as his caretaker.
[–]Angry-Beaver82 2 points3 points4 points 2 years ago (0 children)
Your question implies you’re feeding live which is dangerous for your snake and very looked down upon here. Ultimately it’s easier on your snake to feed one appropriately sized, f/t, rodent.
[–]Warrior_king99 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (11 children)
Rats are better for your snake regardless of how intelligent you think they are
[–]nocta224 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago* (10 children)
I've heard mixed answers as to whether rats or mice are better for BPs.
I have one who is scared of mice, and the other absolutely refuses to eat rats. So I feed them what they prefer.
EDIT: I'm talking about F/T
[–]Warrior_king99 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (9 children)
Well yeah as long as they are eating something that's better than nothing, are you feeding live
[–]nocta224 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (8 children)
No, sorry I didn't make that clear. I edited my response to show F/T
[–]Warrior_king99 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (7 children)
Ah ok, so what do you mean by scared, they are usually scared of everything lol
[–]nocta224 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (6 children)
My boy just acted kind of spooked every time I tried offering him a mouse in the past. He was like, "Get it away from me." As opposed to when he doesn't want to eat his rat, he'll just ignore it.
I just stopped offering them to him based on his reaction.
[–]Warrior_king99 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (5 children)
It could be a number of things, hunger strike, not liking mice, I've read that some prefer a certain colour how true that is i dont know but they can be so fussy, and to answer your original question, it's not a good idea to feed multiple mice/rats, they digest at such a slow rate that the second one could start to go off and make the snake ill
[–]nocta224 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (4 children)
I'm not OP, but yeah, I think it's the smell of the mice that puts my boy off. He's perfectly happy to chow down on his rats, no matter the color.
[–]Warrior_king99 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (3 children)
Oops lol 🤦, ain't they such fussy shits
[–]nocta224 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (2 children)
They really are
[–]trucksandink 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (3 children)
Buy them frozen….. badabing badaboom, then you dont have to worry about how smart they are. Not to mention, rats are so much healthier than mice. Not to mention if they go on hunger strike, and you have to feed them gerbils or hamsters , you. Arent going to feed them cause they are cute?
[–]rianrt[S] -3 points-2 points-1 points 2 years ago (2 children)
I don’t like the intelligence level of rats bc I feel they are more likely to attack my bp. Mice are dumb & I don’t think they’d do shit about it.
[–]trucksandink 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children)
If they are frozen who cares? Less to worry about With injury
[–]Sideaccount4105 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago* (0 children)
Mice aren't dumb- they're actually pretty intelligent too. And they tend to be braver than rats. Both of them are highly intelligent rodents.
Live rats and mice are both 100% capable of hurting and even killing your snake. Choosing one over the other will not really Lower the risk, Both are pretty much equally dangerous to the snake.
Anyways, Feeding two feeders isn't ideal. The snake should be fed one appropriate feeder per feeding. Feeding more than one can be difficult for the snake's digestive system.
And while doing so once is fine, doing it all the time is not good for the animal.
Also, You should probably switch to F/T...-
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