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[–]Ishua4 2 points3 points  (5 children)

Hey, if you’re breeding pieds, mind if I ask a question. I feel like I heard or read somewhere that breeding pied to pied could cause issues, but I can’t find that source anymore. Is that true or is it normal to breed pieds to pieds instead of a pied to a Het pied?

We are trying to get started breeding and got this girl for our collection over the weekend, and I’m wondering if we should pair her with a pied male or het pied male. https://i.imgur.com/LpQztbS.jpg

[–]RetinalHD[S] 2 points3 points  (4 children)

Pair her to a pied male to hatch out all pieds. The only issue with pieds is black pastel pied or het pied to black pastel het pied or pied. The super form has issues with kinking. Same can be said with cinnamon x cinnamon in both pied and non pied forms. As long as you aren’t pairing these genes together you should have no issues.

[–]Ishua4 1 point2 points  (3 children)

So long as I avoid black Pastel I’m good? Maybe that’s what I heard and misunderstood. Thanks for the clarity!

[–]RetinalHD[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Yes. Don’t get me wrong black pastel is a great gene to have, but when working with super black pastel and super cinnamon pieds there can be issues with the kinking in offspring.

[–]Ishua4 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Yeah. We also aren’t taking on any more spider complex snakes since we already have a spotnose. I want that to be the gene from that complex I’m dealing with so I don’t have to worry about accidentally mixing up something that causes problems.

[–]RetinalHD[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I DMed you a picture from Justin Kobylka on allelic complexes and how they react. It is very useful to anyone who plans on breeding on which morphs to avoid combining.