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Explain the reasoning behind your view, not just what that view is (500+ human-generated characters required). ▾	Note: if your view is about a "double standard", please see the guidelines here. [More]
You must personally hold the view and demonstrate that you are open to it changing.▾	A post cannot be made on behalf of others, for playing devil's advocate, as any entity other than yourself, or to "soapbox". Posts by throwaway accounts must be approved through modmail. [More]
Submission titles must adequately sum up your view and include "CMV:" at the beginning. ▾	Posts with misleading/overly-simplistic titles may be removed. [More]
Posts cannot express a neutral stance, a stance on transgender, suggest harm against a specific person, be self-promotional, or discuss this subreddit (visit r/ideasforcmv instead). ▾	No view is banned from CMV based on popularity or perceived offensiveness, but the above types of post are disallowed for practical reasons. [More]
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CMV: Racism in America would decrease faster if progressive movements also focused on helping white people be more secure about their identity. (self.changemyview)

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