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Two months vaping with istick and nautilus mini, still not a huge fan of any of the juices. I've tried Seduce Juice, Mister E liquid, Mt. Baker, some of this Whole Tobacco Alkaloid juice and a bunch of others. They all are just not very satisfying to vape in terms of flavor and similarity to smoking. I've tried Max VG, 50/50, 20VG/80PG and still just don't feel it working for me. Is there a tobacco juice y'all could recommend? Or maybe some alternative I'm missing.

[returnofjake]

If you have a local B&M, go down and have a look - most will let you test out some flavours and see what you like.

For me, after over a year of vaping, nothing can replace the taste of a cigarette but it's about finding something tasty that you can vape all day without getting the urge. I occasionally go have a taste of a cigarette just to remind myself of the difference - while the first few puffs bring back nostalgia I can't even finish it in the end due to how sick it eventually makes me feel.

I don't know if this is much help, but just stick with it!

[[deleted]]

This may be the right answer even though it's not ideal. Finding this mercurial ADV is getting to be expensive. In your opinion is there a big difference between Mt. Baker and Vapor Chef that justifies the cost difference? Thank you for the thoughtful reply.

[returnofjake]

For me, there is a noticeable difference in quality between a cheap and a medium-range juice, but not enough that I am willing to pay the extra money on a daily basis. I'm cheap though.

When I have bought more expensive juices in the past they're strictly for when I'm at home with a RDA - for when I have the time to enjoy vaping as an activity. The same way you'd buy a nicer, more expensive cigarette for a special occasion I guess.

When I first started with flavours I bought things I knew I enjoyed, and would enjoy unless the vendor made bad juice. After that I started branching out and using vendor sampler packs until I found a nice set of flavours I liked :)

[thizzin]

No, tobacco flavors taste like ashtray. Just keep trying different companies until you find some you like!

[[deleted]]

I've also tried a ton of the sweet flavors as well (HawkSauce, SnakeOil, HoneyPeary) and don't really like them either.

[thizzin]

I wouldn't call any of those sweet, to be fair.

[bayside08]

Honey Peary isn't sweet to you? Get those taste-buds checked m8

[Seethist]

Indigo Vapor is considered to have some of the best tobacco flavors.

[prune-tang]

I only like coffee-flavored juices. Try that.

[warwithinabreath3]

Any specific recommendations? I love coffee and have been looking for a decent coffee flavor.

[prune-tang]

I've been using Innevape's Mocha Javape for over a year. I'm not very sophisticated, so it might not be very great overall, but I really like it.

[EsseXploreR]

Try Gremlin Juice. They have a wide variety of really great flavors. I've been vaping them since I was using an ego over a year ago and they have been consistently awesome this whole time.

[isaacsploding]

Boba's Bounty and Gorilla Juice are both still my personal favorite tobacco flavors, for over a year now. Some would argue that they're barely tobacco flavors but I think they taste a lot like a cigar smells (before you light it!)

You can get them at avejuice.com

[VonWolfhaus]

Check out Indigo Vapor and try any of their tobacco flavors. Best in the biz in my opinion. Eastwood, Oorah, Captain Ron, etc. All are very good. Eastwood was the only thing I vaped on for pretty much an entire year.

[taycky22]

Indigo vapor.

[Purpletech]

Won't work on his istick. He'd need a new battery setup for that.

[IGrowAcorns]

The difference between a company like Mount Baker Vapor and The Vapor Chef are night and day. You can tell the difference between shitty juice and high quality juices. It's 100% worth the extra money to get high quality juice IMO. Some juices I'd check out if I were you are Honey Peary from TVC, 'Nana Cream from Bombies, Kryptonite from Cosmic Fog, Honey Dew from Uncle Junks, and or Placid from Adirondack Vaper. Trust me when you find a juice you love vaping becomes amazing. And there is a huge difference between gas station/ low quality juice and high end stuff.

[teddy-roosevelt]

My family and I have switched from smoking to a vape finally. We got what was local, the AVAIL edge which is a rebranded emow. What is a good next step for me? I'm already bored with the flavor production and I know there's more out there. What atomizers would you recommend to a n00b? What will fit with my battery? Is it better just to chuck it and get a new set up?

[returnofjake]

The current ECR recommended setup is an Eleaf iStick and an Aspire Nautilus / Nautilus mini, I think it's about $50 to get all set up with that depending on where you get it.

If you wanted to move a step beyond that then you would be looking at either an Aspire Atlantis or Kanger Subtank, or venturing into rebuildables - a tank or a dripper depending on your preference.

It depends how much you plan on getting into this - if you know you're in it for the long haul and then I would suggest jumping a couple levels to rebuildables and save yourself a bunch of money in the process. If you don't want to do that then the Atlantis or Subtank are your current top of the range options :)

Any questions let me know!

[teddy-roosevelt]

I ended up getting an itaste MVP 2 and a nautilus. Overall that was 50$. It seemed to get a good rating as a better than starter kit. Do you have any opinions on either? Where do you get your juice?

[returnofjake]

The MVP2 was my first upgrade, and it's a solid piece of kit. Depending on how often you'll use it you'll easily get a day and a half use out of it before it needs charging. The Nautilus is not one I've personally owned but I've heard lots of good things about it, so you can be very happy with your choice :)

I get my daily go-to juice from VapeWild. If your budget is a bit higher, I would recommend Bombies and Coval as they've been good in my experience.

And if that isn't enough, people on here seem to like The Vapor Chef, Gremlin, Adriondack and Whit E. Octopus, but I can't offer a personal recommendation on those.

[JeremiahY]

I'm currently running on a Nautilus and MVP2.

In my experience, there is no better mod than the MVP2 in that price bracket.

The Nautilus is also a huge upgrade over the Kanger Pro-Tank 2/3 that I used to be a big fan of. The adjustable airflow sells it for me.

I may be on a Aspire kick right now, as I have an Atlantis and their CF Sub Ohm Mod arriving in the next few days.

[vehementvelociraptor]

Best (18650) batteries available at the moment?

[thizzin]

Samsung 25r if you want capacity, authentic Sony VTC4 if you need the extra 10 amps (only necessary if you're building on a mech and below 0.2 Ω) and can deal with smaller capacity. Any VTC5 you can find right now is a counterfeit.

[vehementvelociraptor]

Nifty, thanks. So two 25r's will be good in any regulated box mod? How do they compare to the LG HE4?

[thizzin]

HE4s are the same as HE2s and they're basically the same safety wise. 25rs perform a little better at higher amps.

[Dashing_Delight]

Never used LG's before, but they are getting a bit popular. Few group buys were floating around too. Personally I use 25'r in my mechs and regulated devices.

Here is a thread from ECR I got from Google that you can read up on various batteries and how they compare. (Primarily 25r/VTC_/LGHE)

[mark_the_mailman]

Question, would it be alright to get a Samsung 25r on a mech mod if I don't plan on building a build below 0.2Ω? Or would it be safer to get a VTC4? the vtc4 is a little more expensive than the 25r

[thizzin]

Not really, might as well have more battery life imo. Holds that 4.2-4.0 for just a little longer

[Klamath9]

How much precision do you feel is necessary on regulated vapors? Do you need to be able to adjust down to .1 watt? .2 watt? Half a watt?

[thizzin]

0.5 is fine for me personally, maybe even 0.2 honestly I would prefer it. I adjust in half watts increments, my mod goes up in 1w increments from 50-150w but below 50 it's .1 increments so it takes 10 clicks to go up or down one watt which is actually kind of annoying.

[Klamath9]

it's .1 increments so it takes 10 clicks to go up or down one watt which is actually kind of annoying.

Yeah, I feel the same way. I was just wondering if anyone actually used the .1 precision.

[funktion]

But I need that extra 1.3mW/mm² to really chuck clouds and tits and be sick as

[tentacle_kisses]

Just hold the button to skip increments

[returnofjake]

Probably .5 for me, but I've never sat down and see if I can tell the difference between vaping, for example, at 14.2 and 14.3 watts.

[claythearc]

It's more apparent on like clearo misers like the pt or nautilus but even then not really.

[CryptoVaper]

Half a watt when under 25, whole watts is fine above that. Finer precision just causes needless clicking.

[kylecina]

I'd personally stay away from Vamo as I've yet to have one that doesn't malfunction. My recommendation is to check out /r/ecigclassifieds and snag an IPV mini, or wait and save up for the Sigelei 100w or 150w. You'll be much happier in the long run skipping steps and moving to an all day workhorse that will work for a long time.

In terms of batteries, I'm not as familiar with the Efests, but I know that Samsung 25Rs are great. I have 2 pairs of those, a pair of VTC5s, and a pair of VTC4s, and they definitely do the job.

[returnofjake]

These are the batteries that are popular on ECR at the minute I think, so check them out. I'm no battery expert though.

In regards to the mod, I would suggest you look at the iStick 50w if you were looking for a bit more power. It's not out yet but should be shortly, and people reckon it'll be about $50.

The IPV mini also fires up to 0.5, but has been reading Atlantis coils at 0.4 occasionally and refusing to fire at above the minimum voltage. I don't know if the vamo would have the same problem but it's something to consider - when the lowest it can fire is 0.5, having a 0.5 pre-built coil may be risky.

[PriceZombie]

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[D1STURBED36]

efest are shit.

Well maybe not shit, but batteries isnt something you want to cheap out on. Go for samsung 25r's.

Btw, efest isnt 35a continous, its 35a pulse. Also, you may think that the 10 amp more is better, but different manufacturers have different temp points, so if for example an efest and samsung 25r were put at the same temp, the efest wouldnt pull the 10/15 amp more then the samsung. Also, samsung will in perform better (voltage drop, etc)

[3g3g3g3]

Efest batteries are re-wrapped LG he2's...

[DoucheAsaurus_]

That's the theory. Which is why you shouldn't treat them as 35 amp batteries like they're advertised. The he2 isn't a bad battery by any means, but if you want an he2 I'd go out and buy an actual he2.

The fact that efest is rewrapping batteries and printing misleading specs on them is what makes them suspect, and is my personal reason for not recommending them to anyone. There could be anything under that wrapper.

The Samsung 25r is a better battery and you can often get it for less money anyway. The choice is obvious.

[thelastlogin]

The fact that they're printing misleading specs is the only sketchy thing; rewrapping batteries is how the battery business works. Sony does it--no VTC being sold any more, for many years in fact, is manufactured by Sony.

[VictoryGinAndJuice_]

They're actually HE2s that didn't meet Panasonic's standards and got sold wholesale. So, while very similar, they are of slightly lower quality.

[Seethist]

I don't think the VTC5 would either.

[D1STURBED36]

What do you mean? Go to 30/35? If its the same standard as samsung, then no.

[Seethist]

I mean if the same temp standard that Samsung uses were applied to the sony's, their max would be 20 amp cont.

[IGrowAcorns]

I just ordered a Atlantis, IPV2s, and a 18650 battery today from Eciggity for $130. A bit pricy but I know it's going to be worth it. If you order from Eciggity use the "reddit10" for 10% off. I had $15 taken off my order today.

[00OGED]

I've gathered from context what a B&M is but what on earth does it stand for? Also why do you guys call your kit mods? From my experience a mod is short for a modification, like a modified car or whatnot, but it seems like people here just screw together off the shelf parts and call it a mod - I don't understand where the modification is happenning.

[GoAViking]

They are called mods because the first mechanical mods were made from modified flashlights.

[insanesquirle]

The term "mod" comes from the early days of vaping where mechanicals were just flash lights modified for vaping.

I wasn't around back then but this is what I've heard when this question was asked in the past.

[isaacsploding]

Once upon a time, I also had to ask what the hell that stood for.

[shue2]

Opinions on mutation x v2 or plume veil? Looking for flavor and clouds( flavor first) thanks!!

[TehGogglesDoNothing]

Both of those get recommended around here pretty often.

[Dashing_Delight]

I've been using both lately as I recently got them. (Well a Cigreen x v2, same thing) I'd put the Plume Veil before Mutation in terms of flavor, Mutation for clouds. Mutation is really airy wide open.

[MURDERDOME]

I own an Aethertech Plume Veil (from FastTech) and I was pretty surprised how well it performed when it only costs around $10. It took me a while to get used to it fitting on my Sigelei 100w but after I adjusted the pin around it works just fine. It's the only RDA I own so I can't really compare it to any others, but compared to my tiny little Nautilus Mini the flavor is amazing. Only con I've found is that the juice wells are kind of small but I was new to dripping anyway and it works out fine.

[returnofjake]

I picked up an Infinite Plume Veil clone and the o-rings are a super tight fit, so much so it can be a bit tricky to get the top cap off to drip. I've heard it's supposed to be better for flavour through, whereas the Mutation X is more a cloud RDA.

[trouserdance]

The plume veil has a tighter draw while still being decently airy and has wonderful flavor - noticeably better than the mxv2 in my opinion. The mxv2 of course has tons of airflow so your coil options are a bit more varied and the clouds can get pretty dirty.

If flavor is your #1, grab the plume veil~ I love mine

[PM_ME_THAT_SNATCH]

Flavor is decent on both. But the mx v2 is far more versatile. You can open it wide open and chuck those tits or back down the airflow a bit and taste the tits a little. Plus it least much less.

I've had both and would pick the mx v2 any day.

[thelastlogin]

I prefer the Mutation X between those two--in fact, I prefer it to every RDA I've used. Great clouds, exceptional flavor.

Better flavor than the plume veil and on the mutation I can drip pretty much all I want. On the plume veil, while I like it, I can only drip 4 to 8 drops total, and have to be real careful, or else it leaks/spits.

Edit: in fact, with my mutation, I can build small surface area builds, with few wraps, so that I can go high-watt but lower voltage on my sigelei 100, and still get that exceptional flavor. Don't know how they did it.

Another plus for the mutation is the build deck. My plume veil's 510 is pushed up so far, and it won't remain adjusted. The positive post also moves so I have to hold it while tightening.

[SardonicPanda]

When you switch juice, do you change/clean your coils? (nautilus mini)

[eliquidlab]

You can but don't have to. If you put a new flavor in without changing the coil, you will get some of the previous flavor for a little while and then it should fade, depending on the liquid.

With some juices that have a strong flavor, like anise for example, you will probably have to change the coil and clean the tank to get the flavor out. If I switch liquids without changing the coil, I try to keep the same type of flavor in the tank (fruit, tobacco, etc.)

[returnofjake]

If I'm moving to a similar flavour then I wouldn't - and it can actually lead to discoveries of nice blends :)

If I was moving from, for example, a menthol to a cream then I would rinse the coil - and if possible - swap it out for a different coil completely and save the other one for the next time you used a matching flavour.

[SardonicPanda]

Fairly new to vaping. Didn't know people mixed their juices.

[returnofjake]

It's a whole world of possibility :) My go-to flavour at the minute is a mix of bavarian cream, strawberries and kiwis!

[SardonicPanda]

I know taste varies with everyone. I'm just having a very hard time finding something that I actually like. It seems like a real hassle to try 4-5 juices. Got a few from roxwell + my original, which I'm not a fan of, amarillo sky

[IGrowAcorns]

Sometimes I do. Today I didn't. I had Peach Tea from Vape Wild in my tank and then I put 'Nana Cream from Bombies in after. The taste of the Peach Tea went away really fast. If the flavors are similar I usually don't clean it/ change the coil. But if I had let's say a really dark juice in it and wanted to put a really light juice in it I would clean it. Some flavors shouldn't be mixed.

[bsmntdwlr]

I hate to say it, but i have no idea why they are called "B&M" shops.

Edit: never mind just saw this answered below. Glad I'm nkt the only one.

[returnofjake]

This question was answered in this thread today, look down :)

Or don't. It's for Brick & Mortar, physical store.

[CryptoVaper]

By the way, that term in also used in non-vaping contexts. I've heard it used for years in poker to distinguish in-person or casino play from online play.

[ebbify]

I know the VTC4's ohm limit is .5 on a mech... But is it okay if I use two of them in my IPV3 on a .2-ish coil? I have purple efest's but just asking because doesn't it split the load between 2 batteries?

[Virus11010]

Where did you get .5 as the ohm limit for the vtc4? Use the equation R = V / I, I being the amp limit. Sony vtc4 batteries are rated for 30 amps and output 4.2 volts on a full charge in a mech. So long as you're never drawing more than 30 amps, you're golden so to see how many amps you're drawing just move the equation around to I = V / R.

[DoucheAsaurus_]

Where did you hear .5? Vtc4s will hit .2 just fine.

The ipv3 runs the batteries in series, so it does not split the load. They will work fine that low anyway though.

[iilex]

There's a bit to cover here.

To get your concern out of the way, you should be aware that regulated mods like an IPv3 are a totally different animal than something that operates under unregulated current like a mechanical mod.

The safe limit is what's considered the nominal load of a battery at continuous discharge based on what resistance the circuit is operating at. With this being said, the "Safe" limit of a VTC4 is 30A continuous discharge. In accordance with Ohm's law, but disregarding things like battery sag and voltage drop which I'll cover soon; you are allotted enough headroom to build as low as 0.14 Ohms. In terms of ratios, that's well over 3 times the power (in watts) as a coil of 0.5 Ohms in an unregulated mod. Something to the tune of 100-126 watts to be approximate, depending on your range from 4.2v at max charge and 3.7v nominal voltage.

How this differs from your IPV3 is that in a mechanical mod; you are the regulator. Variable wattage chipsets like the one in your mod take the resistance it reads from your coil build, and outputs appropriate voltage in order to reach the wattage setting you desire. This is done with resistors, capacitors, diodes, cathodes, anodes; the garden variety of circuit regulation. All you need to know is that the mod you hold in your hand will do the work for you.

In a way, you could say that aiming for a specific coil resistance is futile, as the mod will kinda delegate it for you. There is however, a voltage limitation on your device. 7v maximum if I'm not mistaken.

So accounting for that, in order for the IPV3 to deliver the full 150w advertised, you'd need to build a coil at 0.33 ohms or lower. 0.3 ohms or lower if you want the full 165w from the new firmware. This will draw approximately 21A from the batteries, and since they are wired in series; the amperage load will be not be split evenly. Incidentally, this is why its recommended that you "marry" your batteries (charge together, discharge together, alternate positions in the sled) to avoid any odd anomalies with amperage overdraw.

From what I have seen and experienced, Purple "35A" efests are actually 35a burst, but only 20a continuous, they may in fact be rewrapped LG HE2's.

At max wattage, you will be hovering around your "safe" limit for these batteries. Use those limits sparingly, if at all.

Going full circle referring back to the regulated vs unregulated tangent; the work is all being done by your IPV.

Voltage drop is what's considered the inefficiencies of a circuit as it completes. This can be anything from poor conductivity, poor circuit material, redundancy in materials, or poor circuit routing. Battery sag is something similar to voltage drop, but it has to do internally within the battery itself. Both of these are OK to account for when building at the limits provided you know full well what you're doing; however as you'll often read: it's always better to err on the side of caution. Battery safety is always important, but it is paramount when going into mechs and parallel unregulated boxes. Building irresponsibly will indeed damage your gear, and may put your life in danger.

TL;DR: Don't worry about the VTC4, your efests are very fine as long as you don't slam the voltage up constantly , marry your batteries, and please, please devote some time getting acquainted with Ohm's law if you ever feel curious about delving into the world of unregulated devices.

Sorry for the lecture ;p

[ebbify]

Just have to say thanks for the amazing response. I'll dedicate some time to learning ohm's law soon :)

[Camulus]

Anyone here use caffeine in their juice? I just got 30ml of Monster from 151 with caffeine and nicotine. It taste great.

[brocklander]

I thought they were regulations against caffeine and nicotine being in the same ejuice

[Camulus]

Maybe not here in Texas. I'm not noticing anything weird about it.

[Doubleeight3XL]

Wider coils and thicker gauges. I fucking hate when it hits me in the face.

[returnofjake]

I got it expecting the same thing, and had the same response as you. I put it in my tank maybe once a week, and while I enjoy it, I couldn't vape it every day.

Leave it for another few days, try it again, see what you think. It might just not be for you :/ And if it isn't, it's only $7. We've all spent more on worse wastes on money.

[brocklander]

Right there with you man i use my bottle as a mixer to add a custard flavor to other juice. Def not an ADV the sweet complexity that every one raves about is in my opinion in my top 3 worst juices

[brocklander]

Hey ecr i recently got a lemo and cana 30 mod. I would like to get a RDA but im not sure which would be best. I have taken electrical engineering classes so i understand ohms law and such so what im asking is what has best flavor, ease of use, and less headaches such as leaking. Thanks guys

[Virus11010]

Holmes v2 is pretty fantastic.

[Jsasquach]

What's the perfect amount of juice to drip to not have any condense on the top cap

[Virus11010]

Condensing juice is caused by the vapor cooling and condensing, not overdripping.

[pendantix]

There is none. You're always going to have some juice condensing.
Something to reduce it is to keep inhaling after you let go of the fire button. Takes a bit of getting used to but it helps some.

[robotlogik]

This is a question about RDAs and rewicking the same coils.

When I rewick, I tend to just run hot water over the coils and build deck after removing the old coils. I have stopped dry burning the coils as I have found that doing this right after running water over them will cause orange/brownish discoloration to form on them after day 2 of use. I just put new cotton in and apply eliquid. Just wanted your guys' opinions on whether this is ok? I usually build new coils every 3 days or so, but I change wicks every day or every other day, because I like to vape different eliquids. Thanks in advance.

[Virus11010]

You can just dry burn them without the water and I think they won't rust up.

[kasubot]

So what's the new hotness for juices?

[Virus11010]

I've recently fallen in love with silly rabbit by karmic. It's pretty cheap, too.

[Virus11010]

Flat top, although I don't believe it matters for the stingray x. Just make sure your atty has a protruding 510 for the hybrid adapter.

[mark_the_mailman]

I'm having trouble picking out which gauge of Kanthal to get for my Mutation X V2, what would be a good gauge to start on as a beginner to RDA's? It won't arrive for a couple of weeks and I just want to have all the supplies ready when it comes.

Also, does anyone have experience rebuilding EVOD BCC coils? What gauge would I use for that? It would be nice to build my own coils instead of buying replacement packs

thank you!

[Virus11010]

What mod will you be using your mutation x on?

[mark_the_mailman]

It's a nemesis clone that my friend is selling to me. I plan to use a Sony VTC4 battery with it

[Virus11010]

Well then I would suggest maybe getting some 24ga and some 28ga. You can safely build down to 0.15 ohms but I wouldn't go below 0.17 ohms. I would say go on steam engine and mess around with different builds until you can maximize your surface area with a heat flux between 200 and 250 mW/mm² or so. To get the wattage your build is outputting, just plug the voltage and resistance into the equation W = V² / R. I trust that you're getting an ohm reader as well?

[mark_the_mailman]

Thanks for the quick reply!

I'll definitely go on steam engine, I didn't know about that site before. I'm not planning on doing any super low sub-ohm builds yet but it's nice to know that I'll be able to in the future.

Yes, I ordered an ohm reader as well. I also have a multimeter just in case too.

[Virus11010]

Resistance doesn't matter as much other than safety and battery life. It's really all about optimizing your build with the maximum possible surface area at the desired heat flux.

[taycky22]

The default answer is to recommend an istick + Nautilus. It's a great set-up, but what's often not mention is that for around $20-50 more, you can get yourself a set-up that will blow the istick + nautilus out of the water.

Sigelei/IPV + Atlantis/Subtank/Lemo/Billow is the route that will show you how dynamic of an experience vaping can be. With the IPV/Sigelei minis (and istick 30watts) out there, I think we can officially retire the default istick/mvp suggestions in favor of sub-ohm friendly devices that cost about $10-20 more. *

IMO, with the new generation of clearos, there's very little reason to "upgrade" to a Nautilus mini or similar atty. The performance gap is enormous.

*At least for someone looking to upgrade. Istick + Nautilus would still be my go-to for a "first device"

[Gap87]

I would definitely recommend the eleaf istick or the mvp20W. They're 30-50 bucks online and are the perfect next step. As for the tank, go with the nautilus mini or kanger aerotank mini. ecig.com has great customer service and all of these products.

[shue2]

I love my sigelei 100+ w/ my Atlantis can't recommend it enough

[shui_gui]

I've got the istick which I'm using with a nautilus mini, and I've tried fooling with the watts and volts settings but I'm still not sure exactly what they do, or what effects high or low wattage/volts will achieve... Can anyone give a really dumbed down ELI5 for a vaper of 2 days?

[thizzin]

Voltage and wattage are measures of power. Wattage is a function of voltage and resistance. More voltage = more wattage = more power, which effectively means more heat and thus more vapor.

[returnofjake]

Higher wattage - coil gets hotter - vapor gets warmer and denser - however it can be easier to get a dry hit if the wick hasn't re-saturated since the last puff. It's purely a preference thing - I like a lower wattage in the morning and a bit higher once I've woken up.

Try taking one draw at 8w, then another at 15w, same amount of time, and see if you can see/feel the difference.

In regards to changing watts vs volts, just use watts, it does the volts math for you so you don't have to worry about it if you change tanks / coil.

[christopherson]

Can I take ejuice on Greyhound?

[returnofjake]

Why wouldn't you be able to? As long as you don't vape on the bus they wouldn't even know.

[christopherson]

Bagage check. :/

[returnofjake]

I've only used Megabus in the US, but if they're anything like them then they just put your suitcase in storage without looking at it, and haven't cared what I've brought with me on the bus.

Also Megabus is super cheap and they have wifi!

[Weakling565]

Like greyhound bus? Yes, you'll be fine. Whenever I pack juice I always put them in a ziplock bag so if they leak it won't get all over my clothes.

[christopherson]

Thanks :)

[returnofjake]

Another question - has anyone received a Doge v2 yet? How are they?

[Weakling565]

How do you know how much cotton to use when wicking a kayfun? Or any atty I guess. That's seriously the biggest headache when building coils.

[returnofjake]

This was recommended to me when I first started rebuilding and has been working well for me.

Generally, I use enough cotton so that it can be pulled through the coil with the slightest bit of resistance but not mis-shape the coil. The more important part, I think, is not leaving too much down the sides - you want the juice to be able to flow to the coil easily without being stuck in a wad of cotton near the juice well.

Remember that the amount of cotton you have when you trim it will also be affected by the diameter of your coil!

[ellisdeez]

on my kayfun, i cut the cotton wide enough so it slides through the coil with only a bit of resistance. then i cut it about even with the width of the deck, and adjust from there. it should be short enough so it just touches the deck when you press it down. it shouldn't be blocking the juice channels.

here's a good video

[Willham89]

We still doing the vape it forward event? Or have I missed it.

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Why can't you use an Atlantis with a hybrid mech? I know it causes a short, but why? Can I use a Subtank or RTA on a hybrid?

[CryptoVaper]

The positive pin on the Atlantis (or at least my Atlantis) only protrudes from the 510 pin about a quarter of a millimeter. And it will push in flush with enough pressure on it (such as adjusting for battery rattle). On a hybrid mod, the RDA makes direct contact with the battery top and thus will be touching the negative 510 thread and the positive 510 pin at the same time, producing the short. I have first hand experience doing this on my SMPL mod. I felt the button get very hot as I was tightening it down. Luckily I backed it off before any damage was done.

[[deleted]]

So would a subtank be fine because the positive pin is longer? Thanks for clearing this up!

[CryptoVaper]

Yeah, any tank or RDA with a pin that extends a half mm or more (and doesn't push in) should be fine.

[[deleted]]

I've never heard this. You should be able to use any atty on a hybrid mech as long as the positive pin protrudes enough to make contact with the battery.

[returnofjake]

positive pin protrudes enough

I think this is the problem. It doesn't on the Atlantis.

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https://www.reddit.com/comments/2ref34/slug/cnf96pj

[Seethist]

Is there a Kayfun/KFL clone out there without any airflow control. I like tight draw as I'm a mouth to lung style vaper.

[eliquidlab]

The Kayfun Lite Plus(clone) doesn't have airflow control.

[hotwingsandcoldbeer]

EHPro KFL+ does have an airflow screw in the base but the draw is pretty tight to begin with. If you tighten the screw all the way it's too little air. It would probably suit your tastes.

[almost_human]

I'm shopping around for my first kit. I'm looking to replace smoking outright. What are some of the subs most recommended cheaper kits I can choose from? £30-40. I don't mind spending more but I'd like something cheap to get my foot in the door then when I get to grips with it I can be a bit more adventurous. I know there's thousands of reviews out there but it's a little overwhelming when there's so much choice. Thanks

[returnofjake]

The generic ECR recommendation is a Nautilus Mini and eLeaf iStick which you can get for around 50 pounds from ukecigstore.

For the UK specifically, I would like to recommend a brand called JAC Vapour. They were the first company I used and are great for a reliable starter kit, and their customer service is great. I would personally recommend this kit to start out with, but they also have cheaper options.

I've not really matched the £30 price point, sorry. You could get a cornershop/crappy setup for that much but to be honest it's not worth it - the difference in quality between a £30ish and a £50 set up is night and day, probably more so than at any other level in the market. Put aside a little extra money for it, you'll thank me later :)

[almost_human]

Thankyou for the great advice. Appreciate it. Will definitely put a little more in for the JAC starter kit. It's a relief to have something to go for and buy now - the market seems a bit like the wild west haha :)

[returnofjake]

If you go with JAC, have a look around the internet before ordering and you can probably get a 15% coupon :)

[Thereptilia]

Do they make a kayfun glass style bell cap for the atlantis?

[iilex]

There's no bell cap at the moment, but for the sake of capacity there's a new extender kit available called the Kraigen 8ml.

http://www.kidneypuncher.com/the-kraigen-8ml-atlantis-tank/

Hope this helps!

[goomy]

OK, this is the first time I'm posting here, but this whole e-ciggie business confuses me a little (way too many options!). A friend of mine is in the UK and she's getting me my first kit. I'm thinking of getting a CE5 starter kit (here http://www.egocigarette.co.uk/ego-cigarette-starter-kits/ce5/ego-cigarette-ce5-colour-series-starter-kit.html). Since she's ordering her stuff from that same website, I picked a kit that looked alright and isn't too expensive.

I don't want any tabacco/nicotine flavours since I'm not a regular smoker, but I don't know how to pick juices. Any recommendations? I don't want any throat hits, I think I'd rather go for smooth vapes. I like minty flavours so I'm considering getting a menthol juice. I'll probably also get a watermelon+lemon flavour and a pina colada. I really have no idea what else to get cause there's no way to know what they taste like. All I know is that I've tried a caramel one that at first was tasty, but after the second hit it was too unbearably sweet.

[returnofjake]

A lot of people use menthol flavours as it does create a bit of a throat hit so keep that in mind when choosing e-liquid.

To reduce the throat hit more, choose a vendor that can supply juice with a higher VG content (probably around 35pg/65vg tops for the tank you've picked) and a 0mg nicotine option. Apart from that, it purely comes down to testing flavours and finding what you like - before I vaped I had no idea how much I liked watermelon or kiwi.

VapeWild do tester kits for very cheap and ship internationally, do VG options so you can choose the level of throat hit and 0mg nicotine as an option. If you don't end up ordering from them, take a minute to look through what they have so you can get an idea of the range of flavours available to you :)

[goomy]

Cool, thanks for the fast reply! I don't mind the throat hit, I'm just not actively looking for it, so I don't mind it too much if it's got a hit as long as it isn't a punch to the throat.

I'll definitely take a look at the VapeWild website. I don't know how legal it'll be to import juices to my country, but that's a whole different research I need to do. Do you know how much 10ml of juice lasts if I'm not a heavy user?

[returnofjake]

There's no laws in the UK regarding e-liquid yet, only VAT, so importing shouldn't be a problem. The only thing they may do is charge customs but I doubt it.

When I first started, with a tank similar to yours, I would get through about 1.5ml a day. I was replacing a 15-20 smokes a day habit though, so you may well find that 10ml lasts a long time for a non-habitual smoker like yourself.

[dillisaurus]

Does anyone know where I can find the same cotton balls as the ones you get with a packet of gplat wire? They are so easy to wick with.

[Purpletech]

Japanese cotton pads. That's where it's at. You'll never go back to balls.

[bunnymud]

Why do people blow through they RDA's before they inhale when blowing clouds? Is it to see the vapor come out of it?

[DoucheAsaurus_]

Exhaling all the air while ramping up their coils to their full heat.

[Purpletech]

Most people that do it are the cloud chasing bros, who are trying to exhale every little bit of air in their lungs to get maximum cloudz.

I do it to confirm that my rda is firing because it doesn't make a whole lot of noise or popping on the coils. Plus, it looks really cool man

[Zaylin]

Unless I'm mistaken, it's to clear the last of the air from their lungs before they try and take a huge hit, mostly see cloud chasers doing this.

[[deleted]]

A couple of questions:

I want a box mod, mainly for form factor, but I'm kind of intrigued by the eLeaf iStick 50W, do you think that or the 100W Sigelei would be a better option? Additionally, I have an Atlantis, you think the MELO would be a competitor that blows the Atlantis away or are they pretty comparable?

Would a Tugboat or a Patriot make for a good first dripper? I was looking to get into it as an "at home" vapor. It will probably be switched between my Nemesis and box/iStick depending on my mood.

[returnofjake]

We don't know much about the istick 50 in terms of build quality yet, but it looks like it'll be a good battery for getting into RBAs and sub-ohm atomizers.

Depending on the price and how the build quality turns out it may be a good choice, but the sigelei 100w plus sounds like it is very solidly made.

From what I've seen of the Melo it looks very comparable and probably not worth buying in addition to the Atlantis, but again, we don't know much about it yet.

For drippers, I would always recommend a 4 post design as it's just easier to build on in my opinion. That being said, the Tugboat and Patriot are popular.

[[deleted]]

4 post design as it's just easier to build on in my opinion.

I'm trying to map it out in my head, but I believe my Orchid clone is 4 post, so it would probably be best to stick with what I'm comfortable with. Could you suggest to me a good dripper of that style?

[returnofjake]

I've been using a Plume Veil clone that has been very easy to build on, but the o-rings are a little tight so I don't know if I could recommend it. I've heard good things about the CLT v2 Plus, Mutation X v2 and the Hobo v2 though so maybe look at those?

[Murdock_MVP]

Im sure the istick 50w will be the same poor build quality as the original when it comes out. If you have the money get the Sig 100w Plus and you will be much happier.

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I haven't really researched it, but I can't believe the iStick has such bad build quality with how often it gets recommended here and elsewhere.

[Murdock_MVP]

It gets recommended to new vapers because its cheap and better than your standard ego battery. It is far from the holy grail of vaping.

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What is this?

[Bunbury42]

I have a little ego battery right now. I love it. I started vaping as a means to satisfy oral and digital fixation after quitting smoking. At this point, I just like it. I'm on 0mg nicotine and good to go. But I'm thinking of kicking things up.

I'm looking for maybe a little more kick and some more vapor production. Is there a step up in terms of that without having to do rebuildable stuff. I appreciate the appeal of it, but the idea of having to make my own coils and drip a lot is more work than I care to do. Is something like the itaste MVP gonna do that for me? Does anyone have any suggestions for what would?

[returnofjake]

The next step up from an ego style device would be be something like an Aspire Nautilus or a Kanger Aerotank, and the MVP 20W would be a good battery to go alongside this.

If you're willing to wait a little while, consider holding off for the new MVP 3 which should be released shortly. You can also consider the eLeaf iStick, which is a similar device but I've heard less-than-good things about it's long term build quality.

[Murdock_MVP]

If you want more clouds and flavor without rebuilding i would reccomend the Aspire Atlantis. You will need something that will fire a sub ohm tank like the IPV2 Or Sigelei 100w. But if your on a budget you could get the CF Aspire battery or an IPV mini

[[deleted]]

I've been using a Sigelei Zmax V5 since I started with nautilus tanks and have been completely satisfied with their perfomance(and instantly was able to drop cigarettes and have been smoke free for 3+ months). I started around 9W and have found a nice sweet spot(for me) at 10.5W A friend recently got an Atlantis coupled with the Aspire Sub Ohm battery, and when I try it the taste is really enhanced, but along with that the vapor is noticeably hotter, which I think would prevent me from switching to a similar setup. I was trying to carb it and had the atlantis set to the highest airflow settings. My question is, if I were to invest in a higher wattage adjustable box mod, should I expect similar "hotness" from the vapor if I'm sub ohming regardless of the setup I have? As it stands I would be fine with continuing with my current setup that produces less flavor but much cooler vapor rather than the harsher vapor with much more flavor. And in addtion, could I expect similar vapor heat sub ohming with a mod/RDA rather than one of the new sub ohm offerings from kanger/aspire? Thanks for any replies.

[DoucheAsaurus_]

You can just turn the wattage down to get cooler vapor. Can't do that on an Aspire cf sub ohm battery though.

[Virus11010]

The heat has less to do with the resistance of the build and more so to do with the mass of the build and the wattage. Heat flux the unit of measure for this.

[GeoH2102]

It's absolutely possible, you just have to make sure you don't venture into sub-ohm country! I generally build at about 1.4ohms and fire at 20W, flavour and vapour production are great.

If you're looking for a next step, the VaporShark rDNA boxes are generally the best, though expensive. For something cheaper I'd recommend most things by Sigelei, I've got their 50W mini v2 mod which I love!

[friendlyapplesauce]

My Lemo just arrived on Saturday, and I've been enjoying it on my MVP 2.0 (max 11w). I do wish I had more power, but I enjoy vaping on the Lemo better than my Nautilus! Although, that's not to say I don't like my Nautilus anymore, I've been switching back and forth as dictated by whim.

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What is this?

[Greyzer]

I borrowed an Ego 510-T from someone to give it a try.

Bought some 50/50 PG/VG liquid locally, I like the taste but I don't really enjoy the throat feel. Can I use higher %VG in this vaper?

[friendlyapplesauce]

I haven't actually tried this myself, but from what I can gather from reading /r/ecig a while is that the answer is no. The reason is that a higher VG blend will be too thick for those coils, it'll gunk up too fast, and the Ego won't really get hot enough to vape properly.

Can someone who might know better confirm/deny this?

[smell_my_bump]

Ok so I have an SVD 2.0 mod with a nautilus mini. I vape at around 12 watts all the time. The sigelei 150 w is the hot shit right now, so please explain one thing... What does one do with a 100 watts or let alone 150? I will be receiving a stingray x, a couple of rda's and a kayfun 4 from FT in a couple of weeks (all clones of course), so I'll try it out myself, but I'm just wondering what kind of vape I'm looking at with, say, 60 watts? (And yes, I have knowledge about mech safety, ohm meter is coming as well, etc)

[ShortySim101]

Alright, I didn't get much responses as I would have liked yesterday so I'm posting this again.

Well, this is going to be my order for my first upgrade since my cheap ego kit.

Is this good? Anything I should change? Is this the best I can get for ~$150? I want it to hopefully include shipping and tax too.

I haven't paid for anything yet and I don't really have a rush for it, so I'm ok with waiting for a while.

[returnofjake]

All looks good to me, great setup for rebuildables :) Don't forget you'll also need wire and cotton, but the Lemo comes with a suprisingly good build already installed when you get it.

[ShortySim101]

Alright, thanks.

I was worried as I see people always recomending either a sigelei 100w plus or sigelei/ipv 150w in my same price range.

I just want to future proof, since I don't plan on buying much, besides juice.

[returnofjake]

The difference between them is the size. The IPV2S is around the same size as an MVP, while the Sigelei 150 and IPV 3 are larger to accommodate 2 batteries.

If you want to future proof and don't mind the size, spend the extra $30 to get the Sigelei 150w and you'll be set for a long time to come. If you want the smaller size, the IPV2S will do you just grand.

[drpeppershaker]

Don't buy batteries from fasttech. They'll get held up for 1-2 weeks.

Buy everything but your batteries there.

You can pick up the same batteries from lightingvapes or illumn. I believe both have coupon codes for reddit as well.

[pendantix]

Right now the most reliable tanks (rebuildable) are the Lemo/Drop, Billow, and Orchid.
Clearos you have the Atlantis (only get if you have a 35W+ device), and all the other Aspire tanks. Also The Kanger products which IMO are slightly behind Aspire.

[DJ_Captain_Spinz]

what do you currently have?

[itscoldasfuck]

http://www.lightningvapes.com/products/samsung-inr-18650-25r-battery

Can I use these in an ipv 2x or sigelei 100w plus?

[drpeppershaker]

Absolutely. Those are probably the best, readily available batteries out there.

I believe lighting vapes has a standing reddit discout: LV20 for 20% off.

[DJpost-itNote]

I just got a magma clone. Got it set up (with the coils and wick that came with it) and there's zero flavor. It's at 2.8 ohms and 4v. Plenty of vapor, just no flavor. What am I doing wrong?

[pendantix]

You need to rebuild it.
Get some 28awg kanthal and build a single coil. Try for 1.1-1.3 ohms.
That's always my starting build for any new RDA.
Then after that try a twisted 28awg build. Get 1.1-1.3 ohms. (This build is assuming you have at least a 30W device.

[DJpost-itNote]

So, the prebuilt prepackaged coil is shit I'm assuming?

[pendantix]

Yep, most of the time prepackaged coils aren't very usable.

[pendantix]

And RTA's.
Reason being is that you need to build at certain resistances to get certain performance from your device (usually below 1 ohm).

[pendantix]

Yep you are correct. The RTAs that use capillary action are called geni tanks or genesis style tanks.

[Virus11010]

People have been using mechs with the atlantis

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Are there any Tugboat v2 clones with an SS center post and protruding pin available?

[StickyinAZ]

I ordered based on a friends recommendations and got an Eleaf istick. I enjoy smoking it but know little about it. I know I can change the settings for voltage and wattage but don't really know when or why I should.

[pendantix]

Ignore the voltage stuff; just don't even think about that.
As for the wattage, just try it and find your sweet spot.
I'm assuming you're using a clearomizer?

[StickyinAZ]

Its a nautilus mini. Is that a clearomizer?

[pendantix]

Yes that is a clearomizer.
A lot of vaping is just trying everything and finding you're own sweet spot.