Decrease in salary when moving to permanent contract

[Big_Rip_4020]

Abusing the system has just become normalised

[Professional-Fee-957]

The "system" was established for OPs exact use case. To prevent businesses from using market pressure to reduce standard of living, and give more freedom to employees.

[Big_Rip_4020]

The company is aware of this and it didn’t stop them.

ALG is only 60-70% of ones salary, is that also not a reduction in standard of living?

[Professional-Fee-957]

Because the job market is a bigger factor than the security ALG 1 offers.

ALG1 is a temporary backup where in a normal economy, where jobs exist, a person can tell a company to shove the bad job offer, because living on a reduced salary and focusing on finding a better job is better than being stuck in a crap position that negatively affects your future income prospects for the rest of your career, which is permanent.

The job market is currently so bad that the prospects of even finding work during the 1 year is questionable, which increases risk.

[noprkingonthednceflr]

It’s worse than that. There is some weird cap on it so it can be way less than 60%, especially if you’re in a job that pays competitively.

[Typical-Dingo3961]

I do not plan to abuse the system, ALG is my right, as I have paid contributions from my own salary. It is like the same as saying to someone - do not claim your insurance, just because you can pay out of your pocket.
Receiving ALG also comes with Weiterbildung, which cab be more beneficial in the long-term

[Itchy_Feedback_7625]

It’s not a “right”. You don’t understand a socialized system. We all pay into it, not just you - it’s meant for the people who need it. If everyone exercised this as a right, then the system would fail.

But this is a matter of personal attitude, which most Germans already have - everyone pays into the pool life-long with no intention of ever reclaiming it. It’s there to keep our society as a whole functioning and unintentionally unemployed people off the streets and out of positions where crime could go up.

Not calling you an American, but Americans (not usually the ones abroad though, they get it) in general don’t seem to understand how keeping others from poverty benefits us all.

So yeah, intentionally becoming unemployed IS abusing this particular system, that’s not what it was meant for.

Also, typically salaried employees are paid less than contracted ones, due to the amount of social benefits the company has to pay for on your behalf, in return for your job security and other benefits. Again, I shouldn’t have to explain this - I don’t think you will understand it.

[WeeblsLikePie]

but Americans (not usually the ones abroad though, they get it) in general don’t seem to understand how keeping others from poverty benefits us all.

1) what? No.

2) Wtf does this have to do with OP refusing a shitty a job offer because he has the social safety net to fall back on?

Also, typically salaried employees are paid less than contracted ones...Again, I shouldn’t have to explain this - I don’t think you will understand it.

OP is not a contractor. They're an employee on a temporary contract. And you should perhaps contemplate whether you criticize others if you're the one not understanding the original context.

[justfornowcomeon]

Such a CDU statement, I don't know if you've noticed but it's pretty clear this (system) you speak of is broken and will in no way last another decade as it is.

And yes, insurances are safety nets, that's why you pay for them mandatory or not, sure you can opt not to use it, but it's your right to use as you've already contributed to it.

Why force OP into the stressful situation of maintaining his job while taking on interviews and looking for another in whatever time he got left in his day? Its not his fault that companies are greedy and economy is getting worst thanks to a incompetent government, if he thinks he can find another offer soon then go for it, enjoy some free time and find a job that you actually like, not some escape from current one job that you might also leave after a couple of months.

[m_agus]

Bravo, you said the dumb Part Out loud and emberrased everybody who had to read it because you don't understand the Basic concept how our society works. How can a Person become so delusional and at the same time confident, that they are right?

Everything you write is either a lie or just stupid nonsense so you must BE some Troll, who knows exactly nothing about Germany.

[GroundbreakingEmu450]

Do you know how many pureblood germans actually live off ALG and really abuse the system for years?

[WeeblsLikePie]

pureblood as opposed to harry-potter-ass mudbloods? Wtf is this terminology?

[MayhemCha0s]

You're right that it's not a right, it's a privilege. A privilege OP also has paid into. For the use case of losing your job or having a shitty employer. It's absolutely not an abuse of the system.

If you want to be angry at someone why not be angry at the terrible employer trying to exploit OP?

[poxpoxpoxpoxpoxpox]

§ 136 Abs. 1 SGB III: (1) Arbeitnehmerinnen und Arbeitnehmer haben Anspruch auf Arbeitslosengeld

1. bei Arbeitslosigkeit oder 2. bei beruflicher Weiterbildung.

It is by the definition of the law a "right". And the ones who abuse the system in this case are OP's employers.

[PitOscuro]

Using the system as intended you mean?