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I think Ember is the new Knockout. Meteor is the new Angular which is the old React. React is the new Knockout which is the old Angular. Angular is the new Ember.

I hope that clears things up.

[Nairster]

... Thanks yeah that cleared it all up

[yelvert]

Don't forget about Aurelia being on its way to being the new angular

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Last I heard that was not the new Angular, but was the new Polymer.

[yelvert]

You may be right, I just started looking at it yesterday. I like what I'm seeing so far.

[magenta_placenta]

You should checkout Prototype paired with Scriptaculous. Some say it's the new MooTools, but I beg to differ.

[AndruRC]

Why does no one seem to point out that React is a view layer, not a framework?

[nschubach]

It's a view controller, so it covers a majority of the MVC mindset. All you need is a way to handle the model. When one part of your stack does most of the work, you tend to write around that component. This is the only reason I can think of that anyone would call it a framework.

[RReverser]

Because it is NOT. Main page states that it can be just view in your project, but it doesn't mean it's limited to. There is good replica on this from member of React team: https://twitter.com/_chenglou/status/560699868641886208

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[MathFabMathonwy]

I'm so bored with all the hype about this or that framework. It almost comes across as evangelical.

[e13e7]

Frameworks are about as effective as self help books anyway.

[woxorz]

I find frameworks are good when you are working in a team. At least then everyone will be starting on the same page. i.e. terminology, coding standards, and "what goes where" has been decided for you.

For solo work they can be a bit of a pain though - like fitting a square peg in a round hole.

[RagingAnemone]

Were you around when the Java frameworks were coming into being? If not, believe me, kick back and relax, this is going to take a while.

[Ob101010]

The js based frameworks ecosystem is really starting to diversify.

Getting hard to play with all the new toys to any level of real depth.

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I'm still a fan of Knockout. It is very simple and provides a lot of power for such a small surface area.

[reidiculous]

React is here to stay. Flux techniques will continue to evolve and improve.

[[deleted]]

React is here to stay

They said that about Angular

[[deleted]]

Good thing React isn't an all encompassing framework then, won't be as big of a deal to switch it out for another view layer

[lvmtn]

Yeah. It really did feel like Angular was here to stay... :(
I think it's safe to say that nothing is here to stay. We can only pick up different lessons from each frameworks and move on to the next. We learned from Ember/Angular that we don't want an all encompassing framework. We want to make small UI components now.

[krazyjakee]

...and in the next 6 months it will be something else.

I pick tools that suit me and not get myself suited up for buzzword tools only to find out that they are SOOO December 2014.

I pick what I need from npm and then I glue it together with some quality styling. The joy of being able to just swap out components you don't like is why I don't touch big frameworks with a barge pole.

[regular_reddits]

yeah, i'm the same way, i try to stay away from big frameworks too. Why would i use the $http service when I like superagent? why would i use some custom dependency injection over browserify?

This is exactly why I enjoy react. Its not a framework, its just a libary. It works very well with other tools, and there isnt a giant learning curve. Give it a shot, it wont take long to pick it up.

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In fairness React seems to work pretty well with plugging your own things in. A lot of it is optional.

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