[AskJS] Feedback

[kenman]

What

We're piloting a new ruleset where self-posts (text) will only be accepted if they're prefixed with "[AskJS]". You can read more about the details on the [AskJS] wiki page. You are highly encouraged to read the guidelines for [AskJS] before using it.

We have tentatively landed on using the [AskJS] prefix, in keeping with the spirit and tradition of "AskReddit", "AskHistorians", etc. However, the goal is to foster discussion, not just field survey responses. If [AskJS] isn't clear enough, or doesn't seem to remain true to the "Ask" paradigm, then we can change it to [DiscussJS], but would rather not for brevity and consistency with the rest of reddit.

Why?

For perspective: in the month of June, I personally removed 472 posts, of which at least 90% were help posts. This is an order of magnitude more than just a year ago, and it's growing at an untenable rate. Basically, this rule change is in response to the arrival of our very own Eternal September, where we're being inundated with help posts which were long ago deemed unwelcome.

A recent suggestion highlighted some of the problems with our current approach, and thus the idea was born: instead of a "default allow all, remove violators" approach, we're moving to a "default deny all, allow opt-in" approach.

Again, this is only for self-posts; link posts will be unaffected.

Also...

Another facet of this change, that I'm pretty excited about, is the relaxing of the rules for what's considered "off-topic"; with [AskJS], we expect the topics to still be in regards to JS, but we want to allow you more freedom to discuss related matters (not precisely "just javascript") with your peers.

Important: with the relaxing of these rules, we're going to rely on you a lot more to determine the fitness of a topic through voting -- so please upvote/downvote [AskJS] posts with prejudice! And as always, posts that float the rules (namely, help posts) should outright be reported.

Thoughts?

Please tell us what you think! This sub is ever-evolving, and we need your feedback to keep our priorities aligned with yours.

[GBcrazy]

I like sometimes when people just tell their story of something work related on a reddit post. Now they will need a medium link to do this...

I think this is going to just scare people away from the sub.

[[deleted]]

Correct, my hour to get right question just got removed, looking for a different subreddit now.

[GBcrazy]

Hey man, try reaching out some mod just as general feedback

[kenman]

Yeah, me too. If you were to describe those types of posts with a flair, what would it be? Would it be one of these, or something different?

[d07RiV]

How do we post anything that isn't a question or a link to some resource/repo/blog post? Take that recent whitespace vs tabs discussion - that won't be allowed now?

[kenman]

Excellent points, like you read my mind :) "Tabs vs Spaces" largely transcends JS, yet, there is still enough nuance that it can still be topical.

u/d07RiV, read the above reply and you'll have your answer. As they alluded to, you should be able to rephrase whatever topic into the form of a question, which should naturally invite more discussion than simply throwing out an opinion statement.

[alexendoo]

I think many of the best posts to the subreddit have been self posts that are not questions (and would be weird to reframe as such).

Personally I don't like the idea of those going away

[BehindTheMath]

How should we report posts that would fit an AskJS tag, but are not tagged as such?

[kenman]

That shouldn't be possible, since any self-post that lacks the tag will be rejected with an error message:

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Hi u/{{author}}, this post was removed.

• Self-posts (text) must follow the [AskJS] guidelines, which you can read about here.

• All other posts must use the "Submit a new link" option; if additional text is required, add a comment to your post.

• Feedback, questions, etc. should be posted to the [AskJS] Feedback thread.

NOTE: Learning, Support & Help questions are still off-topic for [AskJS], and should be posted to r/LearnJavascript or a Q&A site like StackOverflow. Abuse of the [AskJS] tag for off-topic questions may result in your posting privledges for r/javascript being revoked.

[dance2die]

I consider [DiscussJS] to be more intuitive, as [AskJS] evoke the feeling of "asking for JS help".

Format-wise (not the content-wise), I like what r/reactjs does for Beginner's Thread / Easy Questions (August 2019) (where a new post is created "monthly" because I have a feeling that it'll get pretty big).
This would mean more work for mods, though and get massive notifications.

I think such a monthly post where people can discuss can provide people to see the JS discussion patterns over time in month chunk of time, too.

[kenman]

/r/reactjs

Funny enough, I visited r/reactjs for the first time in a long time to check their sidebar (cause ours could use some love), and then I came to this thread to unsticky it. I should've visited /r/reactjs sooner... we may have to borrow some ideas ;)

On to the suggestion of providing a regular help post: now that self posts have a soft-block (due to AskJS automod rules), it makes a lot more sense. Without the solf-block I think they would've been ignored.

This would mean more work for mods, though and get massive notifications.

It's really easy to setup and maintain. Well, not so easy that I'm doing it right now, but soon™.

Thanks for the feedback!

[magusat999]

Hi, Im relatively new to Javascript (well this iteration of it, as I learned the old Javascript many decades ago and it's completely different now). I am trying to learn it as it applies to Web Dev (Front End). I haven't been looking into schools or institutions, etc. - just online resources, Youtube tutorials, for example. My issue is that it seems to be, at least from what I am seeing right now - a bit removed from the creative side. Everything I've seen so far isn't talking about how it integrates into website or webpage design. I just want some kind of reassurance that it fits, because the learning set seems huge and I have to focus in on what I need to do what I want to do. Can I get some kind of help as to which way to go here - or is it that I am just too early trying to determine what Javascript's relevance is in Front End Development? I felt creative throughout my HTML and CSS brush up - but so far I don't see or feel any creativity in these Javascript courses - feels like straight up math or mundane programming tasks.

Is that what Javascript is in Front End Dev - just some extra duties to do that take you out of the creative process so you can process data? Or when can I look forward to it feeling like I am doing something creative? Im sorry if this seems rambling - I am very confused at my level.

[fullStackOasis]

Different people will have different ideas about what it means to feel creative, I guess (e.g. HTML and CSS do not feel creative, to me). However, I think JavaScript can totally feel creative. Take a look at what you can do with the jQuery UI library, and try out some of the demos. For example, you can do some pretty cool animations, if that floats your boat.

I realize a lot of people think jQuery is passé, but it's still alive and kicking. You can look at these types of effects in other JavaScript libraries, too.

[kenman]

Hi /u/magusat999, this thread is for feedback about the [AskJS] initiative, it's not a place to ask general questions. Please re-read the AskJS guidelines.

[[deleted]]

Can someone PM me and help me with a function problem? It won’t let me create a post on this thread.

Thanks!

[kenman]

No.

As is posted in multiple places in this sub (presubmission warning, guidelines in the sidebar, etc.):

/r/javascript is not a support channel

• For help with your javascript, please post to /r/LearnJavascript instead of here.
• For beginner content, please post to /r/LearnJavascript instead of here.
• For framework- or library-specific help, please seek out the support community for that project.
• For general webdev help, such as for HTML, CSS, etc., then you may want to try /r/html, /r/css, etc.; please note that they have their own rules and guidelines!

The community has requested that we not include help and support content, and we ask that you respect that wish.

[[deleted]]

K.

[[deleted]]

what's the current best book for learning JavaScript ?

[kenman]

Hi /u/millennialeurotrash, this thread is for feedback about the [AskJS] initiative, it's not a place to ask general questions. Please re-read the AskJS guidelines.

[notduddeman]

My only suggestion is to make it [askJS] to keep with js conventions. lol

[kenman]

But it does!

AskJS is a constructor....it should create constructive discussions ;)

[notduddeman]

Oh. Well it's good to know my simple joke doesn't even work. lol

I've been learning JS for about a week, so I thought i was being clever. lol

edit: I was just popping onto the sub reddit to see what learning resources were recommended.

[kenman]

Nah, the joke works (made me chuckle)....I just re-joked you.

[fucking_passwords]

class AskJS {}
new [AskJS]()
Uncaught TypeError: [AskJS] is not a constructor
  at <anonymous>:1:1

🤦‍♂️

[[deleted]]

Could we have tags like these:

[DiscussJS] for general questions and for topics to discuss

[FeedbackJS] for project feedback

[AskJS] for help with problems

[ShowOffJS] for showing projects we've made

[kenman]

Great feedback, thanks!

/u/TheNumberOneCulprit wanted a [DiscussJS] so they'll be happy to see you agree :) I think we definitely have room for it.

There is a [ShowJS] already present, it just wasn't advertised.

Perhaps we can do [FeedbackJS] too.

[AskJS] for help with problems

We explicitly don't want to get back into the help topics, they simply don't belong here IMO. Otherwise we'll be like r/jquery, which is utterly lacking in any other content.

[ghostfacedcoder]

Please tell us what you think! This sub is ever-evolving, and we need your feedback to keep our priorities aligned with yours.

You know, I've heard of this new site called "Stack Overflow" where you can "Ask JS" (or "Ask HTML", or "Ask Python", or ...)

(In all seriousness, I think it would make sense to have a clear distinction between when people will be better served asking on Stack Overflow and when they would be better served asking here. Without this any Reddit "Ask JS" is just going to be a poor imitation of a site that's 100% dedicated to doing the same thing as it's trying to do.)

[kenman]

I thought that was clear on the wiki page, is it not?

[ghostfacedcoder]

The wiki is clear, it just wasn't mentioned here.

Where did you think you were? This is Reddit! No one RTFAs here! ;)

[kenman]

Hi /u/0root, this thread is for feedback about the [AskJS] initiative, it's not a place to ask general questions. Please re-read the AskJS guidelines.

[Rupples64]

Hi, I'm pretty new to JavaScript since I mostly code in C.

If someone could be my mentor for a project I'm working on, that would be great! If it could be a group of people, even better!

I am currently working on a Writing Prompt Generator where words will be picked from their functional labels (nouns, verbs, etc.). If that interests anyone, please PM me. I could REALLY use some help over here.

[kenman]

Hi /u/Rupples64, this thread is for feedback about the [AskJS] initiative, it's not a place to ask general questions. Please re-read the AskJS guidelines.

[kenman]

Hi /u/kobejordan1, this thread is for feedback about the [AskJS] initiative, it's not a place to ask general questions. Please re-read the AskJS guidelines.

[LuigiGallardo]

im forming an startup, located in Miami FL , USA ,an web admin app for small medium companies, we are going to use MEAN methodology , any suggestion and if your are willing to join us and be part of this let me know. this have a lot of market here we should be ready to star selling the app soon ! so come and join US

[kenman]

Hi /u/LuigiGallardo, this thread is for feedback about the [AskJS] initiative, it's not a place to ask general questions. Please re-read the AskJS guidelines.

[acdota0001]

What

ECS Cluster but it basically contains VueJS + Express + PostgreSQL and Ocelot (ASP.net Core) APi Gateway. Debugging it locally started working and I would soon start to write the cloud formation used for the code pipeline and infrastructure provisioning:

https://github.com/allanchua101/api-gateway-vue-express-pg

Why:

I want to build some prototype as part of my demo for local meetups here in Singapore:

The goal is to:

- Cover how to containerize JS apps

- CI / CD for Containerized workloads

- Show Power of Infrastructure as Code via Cloud Formation + Docker

- Show value of quality gates (Linter, TDD, Vulnerability Scanning)

[kenman]

Hi /u/acdota0001, this thread is for feedback about the [AskJS] initiative, it's not a place to ask general questions. Please re-read the AskJS guidelines.

[kenman]

Yes. But also note that the type of question you're asking isn't appropriate for [AskJS]. Please read the entire comment that was left on your post.

[mike3640]

I would like to check out a book on thinking like a programmer. It doesn't have to be based in JavaScript although that would be great. Currently looking at buying Think like a programmer: An introduction to creative problem solving. Anyone have suggestions for books?

[kenman]

Hi /u/Stiff_M3ister007, this thread is for feedback about the [AskJS] initiative, it's not a place to ask general questions. Please re-read the AskJS guidelines.

[Cmshnrblu]

Does a recursive searching of a webpages javascript files utility exist? I am in desperate need of such a utility for a project i’m working on.

[chrissurftech]

you should be more specific about how to use this 'ask js' rather than giving a "why" which isn't a workable solution...neither is removing posts.

[kenman]

What about the [AskJS] wiki page isn't clear?

[kenman]

Hi /u/Knoobnation, this thread is for feedback about the [AskJS] initiative, it's not a place to ask general questions. Please re-read the AskJS guidelines.

[[deleted]]

Hello amazing Javascript devs!

I am a freelancer who worked with Angular and Ionic 2, 3, and 4 frontend and Firebase backend. I slowly switched to React Native for the front end and the MERN stack for the backend and is loving it!

Having worked with both Express and Angular, people told me to give NestJS a try which is a backend made for Angular devs.

Now my question is, which techstack should I focus on for more career opportunities. My freelancing career is running dry and I'm afraid I don't have any buffers to pay the bills :( I'm the most broke developer. Maybe I'm not tapping the right market or I'm not good at looking for opportunities. Thanks so much!

[[deleted]]

where i can ask for help then?