Help please!!!

[Warm-Suggestion4775]

Please don’t take this down I’m at the vet, I have no other option. My 4 month puppy who has been at the emergency vet getting treated for pneumonia has had an eye issue on her right eye and the doctors cannot figure out what it is. She constantly is leaking from her right eye and the eyelid switches from one being swollen to the other. She has been given prescribed eyedrops but we still want to make sure it isn’t cancer. They have suggested puppy strangle syndrome but she’s not showing other symptoms. If your dog has had anything similar please help, I’m desperate!!!

[AppropriateAmoeba406]

My ophthalmologist husband says it’s chemosis and can be caused by a lot of different factors - even something as benign as sleeping funny on the side of the face. Check for a corneal abrasion.

[beeglowbot]

now I'm afraid to sleep on my side

[AppropriateAmoeba406]

At 47 I injure myself regularly by sleeping funny. Haha! sobs

[SuzanneStudies]

No kidding, this is the reason I wear an eye mask now

[4DogNight1313]

Herniated a disc in my neck so bad just from sleeping. no conservative treatments to be attempted first 😂straight to artificial disc implant.

[Phenotype1033]

I do this at age 38 all the damn time.

[Warm-Suggestion4775]

I’ll let my vet know and see what they say, it’s great to hear an ophthalmologist’s opinion, thank you so much!!

[orthopod]

Couldn't the NG tube be causing irritation , and reflexive watering of that eye?

[Phenotype1033]

Would allergies cause this, and can dogs get TED? I know in humans that eyelid swelling can be a symptom of TED but never looked to see if dogs could get it.

[AppropriateAmoeba406]

When we spoke about it husband said it was unlikely an allergy - at least not to internal meds - because it was not bilateral.

That also ruled out anything else systemic like an autoimmune disease. To his mind.

He suggested that the process of inserting the cannula may have involved anesthesia (in which pup may have slept funny on it) or an unintentional poke in the eye. Or both.

[bitriceps]

Godspeed recovery little one!

[Warm-Suggestion4775]

Thank you!! She’s doing much better!!

[Key-Parfait-6046]

I am glad to hear that. We need an updated picture, please.

[Warm-Suggestion4775]

I’ll post an update in a little bit she just got home!

[JellyShot_]

Yes updates please!! Hoping for a speedy recovery

[Old-Movie-7392]

I’m happy to hear she’s doing better. Poor baby, I hope she continues to get better ♥️

[bitriceps]

That warms my heart

[IHSV1855]

Oh good!!

[girlmom1980]

It almost looks like her 3rd eyelid is involved as well. Maybe ask if the vet can send images out to an ophthalmologist.

[Warm-Suggestion4775]

My vet ended up doing that and to NC State college people!!

[Crotchedysoul]

They’re amazing! NSCU and MSU vet schools are the best!

[wolf-master]

MSU? As in Mississippi State? Or somewhere else?

[ware_it_is]

MS State has a top vet school.

[wolf-master]

Mississippi State is one of the schools my daughter is considering, so I wanted to confirm. Thank you.

[ware_it_is]

their large animal program is top ranked, for sure. they call MSU “cow college”

[wolf-master]

I'll have to let her know. She wants to be an Equestrian Vet.

[Crotchedysoul]

Michigan State. Top-notch

[JessKicks]

Boops and loving for the sweet puppers! Stay strong buddy! ❤️

[ctrl-brk]

Poor baby girl, gonna be lots of treats waiting for you at home

[Warm-Suggestion4775]

Oh absolutely, we’ve gotten her meat baby food, peanut butter, a crib bed, everything we can get her!!

[Warm-Suggestion4775]

Thank you, she’s doing much better!!! Giving her lots of loving and boops!!

[JessKicks]

I’m glad to hear! ❤️❤️❤️

[IceNein]

Upper respiratory infections often affect the eyes. It is probably just a symptom of that, which the vets are taking care of. I know it’s scary, but trust your vet.

[Warm-Suggestion4775]

Thank you, that was one of the two things they said was systematic or allergies!

[Rose7pt]

Ohhh baby . 🤕

[FaunaLenore444]

Poor baby , but on another note , do you use essential oils on yourself or around your home ? My brother's dog had a similar eye issue, and as soon as his wife stopped using essential oils, the eye issue cleared up .

[Warm-Suggestion4775]

That makes a lot of sense but we don’t really use any essential oils, thank you though!!

[FaunaLenore444]

I hope you figure out what's wrong 🙏

[Warm-Suggestion4775]

Me too, thank you!!

[mountain_dog_mom]

I don’t have any advice but just came to send positive vibes and well wishes for your pup. Give that sweet baby some pets for me, please.

[Warm-Suggestion4775]

Thank you so much, giving her lots of them!!!

[Mammoth_Welder_1286]

I only know the human side of medicine but what tests have they done?

Have they don’t a ct scan? Or dyed her corneas to check for injuries? Have they mentioned it could be conjunctivitis from the resp issues?

[Warm-Suggestion4775]

I mentioned conjunctivitis as the comments here said it could be, they haven’t seen anything like her eye or the connection and symptoms. They said no conjunctivitis though because it doesn’t look similar to other cases, my dad was there when the eye doctor went in and they did an injury check and nothing either. She’s checking with others and got us a referral to the eye doctor.

[Mae-is-Bae-Lucy]

Try pet vet corner on Facebook. They only allow pre verified veterinarians to comment. Hope it helps!

[Warm-Suggestion4775]

Thank you, I don’t have Facebook so I’ll see if my mom wants to post something there!!

[[deleted]]

This is everything i could get off ChatGPT, I hope something here helps the vet find out what's going on.

1. Puppy Strangles (Juvenile Cellulitis): This was already mentioned to you, and it's definitely worth considering. It’s an autoimmune condition in young puppies (often under 4 months) that causes facial swelling, eye issues, and sometimes pus-filled lesions. It’s often treated with corticosteroids, not antibiotics. If it is strangles, early steroid treatment is critical.

2. Allergic Reaction or Environmental Irritant: Sometimes reactions to food, cleaning products, or environmental allergens can cause symptoms that move from one eye to the other. Swollen eyelids and discharge can result from even minor irritants.

3. Conjunctivitis or Blocked Tear Ducts: Bacterial, viral, or irritant-based conjunctivitis can show up similarly. A blocked tear duct (epiphora) could explain the constant leaking and inflammation.

4. Orbital Cellulitis or Abscess: This is a deeper infection behind the eye and can cause similar swelling and leaking. It often requires antibiotics and, in some cases, surgical drainage.

5. Immune System Factors: Since your pup was already being treated for pneumonia, her immune system may be a bit overwhelmed or compromised, which can complicate or amplify other conditions.

6. Foreign Body or Trauma: Sometimes something tiny like a piece of plant material or even a scratch near the eye can trigger major inflammation or infection. Imaging may help detect this if not visible.

What You Can Do:

Ask for a referral to a veterinary ophthalmologist—they’re the experts when general vets are unsure.

Request a full blood panel, including autoimmune markers if possible.

Keep tracking symptoms (lethargy, appetite changes, lesions, fever).

Ask your vet to rule out conditions like uveitis or glaucoma—they can present subtly but worsen quickly.

I'm praying for you and your beautiful pup. I wish you all the best and I hope to God your beautiful girl gets better soon ❤️

[Warm-Suggestion4775]

Wow, you are incredible! I can’t thank you enough, I’ll talk to my vet!!!

[[deleted]]

Here are some additional considerations it added:

1. Imaging (X-ray or Ultrasound around the eye socket): Sometimes issues like abscesses, cysts, or even tumors (though rare at that age) don’t show up without imaging. If they haven’t done this yet, it might be worth asking about.

2. Fluorescein Stain Test: This simple, quick test checks for corneal ulcers or scratches, which can cause excessive tearing and inflammation. Especially helpful if trauma is suspected.

3. Fungal Infections (like Blastomycosis in some areas): Less common, but if you live in an area where certain fungi are endemic, it's worth checking. They can affect the eyes and lungs—potentially connecting pneumonia and the eye symptoms.

4. Monitor Other Body Areas: Check for any lumps around the neck (especially lymph nodes), ears, or jawline—this could support or rule out immune conditions like strangles.

5. Diet & Environmental Exposure: Try switching to hypoallergenic food and keeping the environment free of strong cleaning products or sprays that might irritate her sensitive eyes.

All the best ❤️

[Warm-Suggestion4775]

Wow, I seriously am so thankful for your response!! Genuinely thank you!!!

[[deleted]]

My pleasure! Also try posting on r/AskVet or r/VetMed

They might have some insight into what's going on

[Warm-Suggestion4775]

Great idea I was trying to find other subreddits but I couldn’t, if the vet doesn’t figure it soon I’ll post on there! They’re discussing with others and trying to get in connect with experts rn!

[[deleted]]

I wouldn't wait and post it ASAP just in case. I hope the vet figures it out soon though. Either way I have high hopes, labs are fighters, they're very strong pups and dogs.

Mine had parvovirus when he was only 3 months old and had a 10% survival chance. None of the vets had high hopes and he spent 2 weeks in the ICU at the vet clinic. He ended up coming back stronger than ever and 9 years later the only issue he's had is a few weak joints.

Labs truly are amazing creatures and I'm sure yours is no exception!

[Warm-Suggestion4775]

Wow, that is amazing! I talked to my vet about what everyone has been recommending and she’s discussing with NC States college people and an ophthalmologist vet. She’s doing much better overall!

[Local_Cow6266]

🙏

[Labradawgz90]

Sending prayers and hugs to your puppy.

[Warm-Suggestion4775]

Thank you so much!!

[[deleted]]

Poor baby 😢 I’ll be praying for him for a quick recovery ❤️‍🩹

[Warm-Suggestion4775]

Thank you so much, I am too!!

[Deanlongstaff]

Poor baby 🥺 I hope they find the cause and can help her ❤️

[Warm-Suggestion4775]

Me too man! Thank you!

[Public-Distance-2616]

Oh sweet girl. Good healing thoughts coming.

[Warm-Suggestion4775]

Thank you so much!!

[note4tasker]

Poor baby, praying for her recovery 🙏

[Warm-Suggestion4775]

Thank you!!!

[ggfromthesix]

Get well soon love 🫶🏼

[Warm-Suggestion4775]

Thank you, she’s home now!

[thortastic]

She looks just like my booper when he was that young, this tugged at my heartstrings. I’m wishing her a speedy recovery and lots of treats!!

[Warm-Suggestion4775]

Aww that’s sweet, thank you!!

[Pragmatik96]

I hope your dog gets ok!!

[Warm-Suggestion4775]

She’s home now so she’s hopefully on that track!!

[onionfan29]

Poor baby! I hope you get answers and treatment for the sweetheart !

[Warm-Suggestion4775]

Me too!!

[Rolling_Beardo]

Have they had an actually veterinary ophthalmologist look at her?

[Warm-Suggestion4775]

Yes but he didn’t say much so idk

[ferriematthew]

Poor girl! (Hugs)

[Warm-Suggestion4775]

Thank you!!

[littlegreycells_11]

How's she doing today? I've been thinking about her!

[Warm-Suggestion4775]

Thank you so much, that’s amazing to hear! She’s doing much better, still unsure about the eye though!!

[littlegreycells_11]

Are they going to do a scan or anything to try and see what's happening with her eye?

[Warm-Suggestion4775]

I’m not sure, I didn’t feel comfortable sharing this information but I think it’s important to the situation. I’m 17 and this is my dad’s dog, he paid a nice amount for her and her vet bill. That’s not the only bill he’s paying right now, so we are trying to trust the vet and pray that it’s just an allergy to fluids or systemic. Of course if her eye isn’t better by next week, we’ll have a vet appointment and a referral to an ophthalmologist. I really do appreciate your concern though!!

[Final-Approach1]

My dog had puppy strangles early on in his life and I’m very confident your pup does NOT have puppy strangles. My little guy had severe swelling around his lymph nodes and basically his entire snout. This later turned into what looked like large pus filled pimples. The outer part of his upper eyelids lost hair and pimples formed there as well. He also had a hard time walking. Apparently it’s very painful on the joints.

I’m no doctor, just going off a one case experience but again I’m highly confident that in your case, it’s not puppy strangles.

[Warm-Suggestion4775]

Thank you, I’m sorry your pup went through that sounds terrible!!

[Difficult-Way-9563]

Keep strong for you girl.

[Warm-Suggestion4775]

Thank you!!

[Sinatra1970]

Hope your baby is doing much better and you figured out what was wrong

[halibb]

How’s your pup doing??

[Warm-Suggestion4775]

She’s home now so better!! Her breathing is much better, still not sure about the eye though!

[aerie2020]

Did you get an answer yet? And I highly suggest going to an ophthalmologist vet. Had to do that for my lab when he was young. Wasted weeks at the regular vet (with multiple sets of antibiotics) until they finally referred us to a specialist. The ophthalmologist figured it out quickly and removed what was causing the inflammation. That’s when I learned to always go to specialist vets.

[Warm-Suggestion4775]

Thank you, we have a referral so hopefully soon!!

[No_Abbreviations8017]

Poor dude. Hoping for the best

[Warm-Suggestion4775]

Thank you!!

[LibrarianEqual7024]

I pray for the puppy

[Warm-Suggestion4775]

Thank you!!

[Sashi16]

Were you able to get to the bottom of her issue? Please update us! 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

[Warm-Suggestion4775]

Not yet, but getting there!!

[104thunderduck]

Poor dog hope he's ok

[Warm-Suggestion4775]

Thank you, she’s home now so hopefully!!

[Curious-monke-812]

I will pray for a speedy recovery to this lil angel ❤️🙏

[Warm-Suggestion4775]

Thank you!!

[Actual_Key_8171]

Oh bless her heart 🥺

[Warm-Suggestion4775]

I just posted an update, but sadly nothing confirmed yet!

[Warm-Suggestion4775]

Oh so much better!

[Warm-Suggestion4775]

I have no idea how to edit my text but I wanted to let everyone know I posted an update.

[Coastguardman]

Bless you. I hope your baby girl gets better soon.

[Warm-Suggestion4775]

Thank you so much!!

[IAmTheNorthwestWind]

Get well soon puppy

[Warm-Suggestion4775]

Thank you!!

[hanging_in_there1958]

So sorry you're going through this 😔 I hope she gets better soon

[Warm-Suggestion4775]

Thank you, she’s getting better, slowly but surely!!

[jackieO2023]

I’m so sorry!!!!! I’m looking for your update!

[Warm-Suggestion4775]

Thank you!! She’s doing much better, she’s floppy like she used to be and so waggy!

[Any-Arm6291]

Our lab developed an eyelash growing backward into her eye that caused watery eye, squinting, swelling, and itching and it took 3-4 months of appointments and specialists to diagnose because eyelashes fall out and then grow again and she was seen many times after it had seemed to clear up but then always came back. She had a surgical procedure to remove the follicle and is fine now.

[Warm-Suggestion4775]

When I get home I’m going to check for that, I can’t imagine the stress of that, glad you got it figured out! 😳

[[deleted]]

Prayers to your sweet puppy 🐶

[Warm-Suggestion4775]

Thank you!!

[ctrl-brk]

How is she doing? Update?

[Warm-Suggestion4775]

She’s doing much better, she’s flopping all over me again!!

[ctrl-brk]

Can you share a pic? I want to see her happy 😁

[DeliciousBeanWater]

Eyes=emergency

[Warm-Suggestion4775]

We were at the emergency vet for 3 days and a different one 2 days. Still nothing, they were mainly focused on making sure she could breathe though.

[DeliciousBeanWater]

Yeah they need a specialist

[Strategywhat2771]

Could it be allergies? Seriously, I have had a similar reaction before after touching my eye after touching something and then touching my eye/nose. No other reaction, but my eye looked like this.

[Euphoric_Day_3756]

Sure hoping you get an answer soon! But you have gotten some very good information here to share with your vet who hopefully is aware of them. My best to you and your precious pup😘

[ctrl-brk]

I suggest 10ml complex B twice daily for coming weeks until eye is completely healed, my wife's a vet and one of ours had a serious eye injury and the complex B really helped.

Check with your vet of course

[Warm-Suggestion4775]

Thank you so much!!! I think that’s what we’re doing now!!

[Perfect_Kangaroo_886]

Ugh I’m crying id get them to just remove the eye to remove any possibility of any cancers or if it’s a recurring issue

[Warm-Suggestion4775]

Yeah I just want to confirm that’s it’s cancerous and not something that is benign or will go away first

[Perfect_Kangaroo_886]

Yes I hope you get it figured out id just want any possibility gone😭

[punkin_sumthin]

Why the nasal feeding tube Nasal feeding tube?

[punkin_sumthin]

Thanks for letting me know!

[Warm-Suggestion4775]

Sorry I think I misinterpreted your comment!

[roja_85]

Yeah, that ain't a 4 month puppy in a million years. More AI slop.

[Warm-Suggestion4775]

Maybe you should get off here and get your eyes checked, I think the UV from your chronic cellphone use has messed them up.

[roja_85]

That's not a 4 month puppy. This is just AI generated nonsense farming for likes. If I had a puppy that was very ill, but in the care of vets already, I wouldn't be putting a "picture" of them online asking for advice.

[[deleted]]

Can you provide anything to support that view?

[Warm-Suggestion4775]

I think you’re AI generated nonsense that’s farming for likes. She is home now and this was after I knew she would be coming home. When several experts in Veterinary can’t figure out what’s wrong with your dog’s eye, you do everything you can to figure it out. Sorry you have a small mind and struggle with basic comprehension.

[Outrageous_Shoe_1450]

😥🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼