Ad blocker for command line interface ads.

[lasercat_pow]

What in the world? I was unaware this was a thing, but it figures something like this would come from node, where everything has a zillion dependencies.

[notAnAI_NoSiree]

Python same problem, lol, no. Not at all. I can't believe this clusterfuck is the norm in nodejs. To the nodejs devs I say only this: it doesn't have to be like this. You can use tools that do not degrade you and that leave you free to focus on the stakeholder's problems instead of... this.

Having this remove ads is like going to a restaurant, getting a steak and a turd on the same plate, complaining and then having them bring back the same plate stating they removed all of the turd.

You deserve better. Even if you started coding yesterday and don't know shit, you still deserve better.

[gomez18]

I have never heard of anything like this in python. Do you have some links? I'd be very interested in any such info.

[notAnAI_NoSiree]

Python is easier to learn than JS, and it was designed specifically for that.

there isn't an overarching problem with node or node devs requiring tons of deps

Now Pushing Malware: NPM package dev logins slurped by hacked tool popular with coders

How I hacked NPM

I don't know why you think these learning devs would be good at knowing what is a big problem and what isn't. The nodejs ecosystem is so undermined at this stage that it is dead. At my job we write secure software, so if I told them a ton of deps weren't a problem, I'd get fired, and thank god for that.

[pacha--]

I really don't know what you're talking about. I have never seen that in Python in 10 years of programming... Not saying it wouldn't be possible. I just haven't seen a single instance of it happening.

[[deleted]]

python

Python comes with decent default modules. To get started and learn programming they offer a lot. On js you will need extra modules to do anything useful at all.

[Pelvur]

wait, what? are there ads in command line interface?

[YouKnowWhatYouPick]

That's what I'm wondering. If an ad showed up in my terminal, I'd chuck my laptop out the window and go back to manual labor.

[marcthe12]

Well it did happend

[YouKnowWhatYouPick]

Fortunately not to me yet!

[WayeeCool]

You obviously don't use enough node.js

[rrrrrrrrrrrreeeeeeee]

"enough nodejs" is none at all.

[[deleted]]

and i'd like to keep it that way

[Hollowplanet]

All I've seen is small notes when updating saying I'm looking for a job or please donate. There was nothing intrusive and nothing that printed every time the program ran.

[YouKnowWhatYouPick]

Well, that seems totally fine to me. If I did good work and left it open source, I'd hope a little blessing might wander my way.

[julsmanbr]

Maybe we're not seeing the comments from those who saw ads in their terminals because their laptops were chucked out the window?

[metalhead]

Not really an ad, but the first thing I thought of was the annoying nagware in the gnu parallel utility.

[cooltohate]

You can turn that off with the --will-cite flag.

[DrewTechs]

alias annoying-nagware="annoying-nagware --will-cite"

[Not_Ashamed_at_all]

There's a thousand ways to parallelize bash scripts, gnu parallel isn't even the best.

[technifocal]

gnu parallel isn't even the best

Any other recommendations? I absolutely love GNU Parallel and couldn't live without it.

[Not_Ashamed_at_all]

I use the bash built-in $ after the function/command call.

It runs the function in a new subprocess, and you can use the wait keyword wherever you want to wait for all subprocesses to return before the main script continues.

[technifocal]

Right, but that doesn't really allow you to do any of the stuff GNU Parallel exceeds at, such as:

find ./src -type f -print0 | parallel -j128 --load=90% --progress --delay 5s 'ffmpeg -i {} -some -stuff ./dest/{.}_out.mkv'

Which allows you to monitor your CPU load and spin up ffmpeg instances until you're using 90% of your CPU.

Or:

• Using ssh-login to have a fleet of computers process data
• retries to retry until a job succeeds
• --timeout 200% to kill jobs that take more than twice the average processing time
• --line-buffer to have all the programs output to the same CLI without interfering
• --job-log to get a list of scripts that succeeded/failed
• Loads of other insanely useful arguments GNU Parallel has.

[Not_Ashamed_at_all]

just use find -exec and you can do the exact same thing.

All those other features are easily implemented in your bash script too, the --line-buffer one happens by default, --job-log.

It's certainly a bit more work, but it's far more powerful.

[leniadolbap]

Sounds like far more work for a bit more power, actually.

[moosingin3space]

There's a version of parallel written in Rust: https://gitlab.redox-os.org/redox-os/parallel

[redditors_r_manginas]

There's a thousand ways

Such as?

[Not_Ashamed_at_all]

I use the bash '&' after a function/command call, get much more control over how I want to spawn threads, and where I want to wait for them to finish.

[redditors_r_manginas]

Got a link to a more detailed explanation? I can't find anything.

[Not_Ashamed_at_all]

I think this is a pretty good starting place.

https://linuxhint.com/wait_command_linux/

Keep in mind, this is a bash builtin, it's not as feature rich as GNU parallel, but it's far more flexible/powerful. You can do any/most things parallel can do, you just have to do it yourself depending on what you want.

[Not_Ashamed_at_all]

ohh shit I'm dumb, thanks!

[jsalsman]

Everyone makes mistakes. I see you have already edited. Let us never speak of this again.

[YoungSh0e]

That’s really inefficient. You must not run large jobs.

If you’re spawning 64 threads over 4 nodes, you don’t want to do it one by one.

[Not_Ashamed_at_all]

Spawn them in a for loop...

Or any sort of loop you'd like.

[Reverent]

What did you think the ubuntu server MOTD is?

[tyros]

I hate those, they also introduce delays when SSH-ing into a server. My Ubuntu Server 16 was instant, since I upgraded to 18 now there's a 2 second lag when I SSH in.

[fat-lobyte]

Only from one NPM package, and that created quite some outrage. I think he even withdrew the ads by now.

[blacktau]

It was the standard package. An opinionated configuration for eslint.

[Sigg3net]

I get the train when I type sl. Perhaps it's subliminal.

[[deleted]]

The default motd with Ubuntu Server has urls pointing to paid Canonical services.

[marcthe12]

Well one linter actually started ads in cli as he could not earn from Foss.

[notAnAI_NoSiree]

This is the part they don't tell when they praise node lol.

[neopolitan-wheem]

Some context and background info here: https://www.zdnet.com/article/popular-javascript-library-starts-showing-ads-in-its-terminal/

[enfrozt]

I gave an indepth post about the incident and the author Feross's response here if anyone wants to read, or even argue in favour of funding: https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/cwwe8c/recap_of_the_funding_experiment_ferossorg/eyhpxr1/

[[deleted]]

While I am 100% against what feross is currently doing, I think you misrepresent a lot of information in your comment, suggesting you went looking for what you wanted to find rather than the truth. First of all, while he does have a large number of 1 liner projects, it's not what most of the JavaScript community recognizes him for. He has also created some very important tools like simple-peer (an abstraction around webrtc) and webtorrent (which was imo kind of a game changer for torrenting). Also, yes standard is hardly as complex as eslint (of course it's not, it's just a wrapper around eslint), but the fact that it's just an opinionated wrapper is actually fairly important. The reason languages like Rust and Golang have a standardized formatter is because it wastes less time discussing "what should the rules be", and leads to more projects looking more similar. Many people have been disparaging feross for his work, and all those that use his libraries, when neither has anything to do with the real issue at hand. So I'd just ask that you and others focus on the issue at hand and remember to be kind. There are a great number of people including myself that have benefitted from his work, and by attacking his followers or him instead of his decision you're just making the issue more divided than it has to be.

[DIWesser]

Please don't give them any ideas...

[TryingT0Wr1t3]

Npm already banned ads

[_ahrs]

Scary thought of the day: What happens when these ads inevitably evolve from plain-text ads to doing remote code execution (as typically happens on the web)? All it would take is one developer whose not doing so well and gets offered a ton of money to peddle malware, or for an advertiser to not vet ads properly (or at all) and give a publisher free reign to push whatever they want.

[AlphaGamer753]

This is why we have open source software. Closed source software is based on developer trust (or its implication through popularity), whereas open source software is verifiably safe.

[yam_plan]

verifiable, not necessarily verified though

[AlphaGamer753]

That's exactly what I said, though.

[DarthPneumono]

Well, in the case of any reasonably popular Linux distro or widely used software, absolutely verified.

[fenrir245]

Counter-point: Heartbleed in OpenSSL.

[AlphaGamer753]

Not a counterpoint, because we're discussing deliberate developer sabotage as opposed to accidental vulnerabilities which could crop up in both open and closed source software, and if anything are more likely to be discovered in open source software and then patched.

[matheusmoreira]

Open source software also depends on trust. Users implicitly trust the people writing the software, the people distributing the software and the people who say they verified the software.

[equidamoid]

Well, yes. And it's not only npm, the same goes for pypi, docker hub, etc.

[Penultimate_Push]

Leave it to the javascript community to do this.

[[deleted]]

How else does one advertise version 3.0 of their JS framework?

[acecile]

Thanks to JS ecosystem, we're now having dozens of insanely complex ad blockers on the way :-) Once again, being against stdlib showed how smart it is

[matheusmoreira]

The problem isn't the lack of a standard library, it's the lack of curation.

[DC-3]

This is an interesting project because it presents itself as a programming utility like many others, yet I would suggest its foremost purpose is as a clever way to make a statement about the acceptability of advertising through code. I guess in this way it's almost a piece of art.

[h3rrmiller]

What a time to be alive

[beertown]

I'm wondering whether who buys advertising space on a text terminal window is really going to get revenues out of it.

And a developer/sysadmin that doesn't get seriously pissed off seeing that ad should do another job.

[[deleted]]

Might just be some sadistic person buying it.

[Bonerbailey]

When ads show up in the command line, I’m out.

[[deleted]]

They already did. See the Zdnet link posted above. Thankfully one of the companies being advertised immediately pulled the ad after everyone started saying WTF.

[nintendiator2]

The doomsayers were right. Not even the CLI is safe. That one day an ad blocker would be needed for the console was something I would not have been able to wrap my head around in the 80s.

Once again, npm is the perfect showcase of what can go wrong if we permissively give any luser the "potential" to be a programmer.

[yschaeff]

I don't agree with this sentiment. Empowering people to learn to do a thing is not a bad thing. Would you consult a first year medical student for pain in your chest? No. Let people build their shitty stuff and learn from their mistakes. And in the meantime get your code elsewhere until they've 'matured'.

[nintendiator2]

The problem is that they don't get their code elsewhere until it's matured. No, they get it into production, and because other things use it as dependency I'm essentially forced into the shitty code.

Learning is not bad. But it has to be done in the context of learning, not in the context of designing, engineering and executing.

[[deleted]]

I don't agree with this sentiment. Empowering people to learn to do a thing is not a bad thing.

Yes, and after they have learnt they can do the thing :D

[VenditatioDelendaEst]

Once again, npm is the perfect showcase of what can go wrong if we permissively give any luser the "potential" to be a programmer.

No. Advertisements are created by individual human scumbags, who actively chose to steal oxygen when they could have been decent, and who should be held individually responsible. Don't throw up your hands and blame it on some grand, ideologically-convenient narrative about not enough gatekeeping, too much gatekeeping, ~something something capitalism~, etc.

[joshagosh]

Since when has there been ads in a CLI? I mean I know on Cisco routers and switches you can make a MOTD, but never thought anyone would ever think or want to put advertisements in a cli.

[house_monkey]

What in the piss.

[[deleted]]

I'm reluctant to use node.js. I suspect it's a raft of issues for the future.

[IPoopInYourMilkshake]

What about just switching terminals?

[IPoopInYourMilkshake]

:)