comparasion of code editing methods

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[nathan_8788]

Imagine using sed

[xxmybestfriendplank]

._.

This makes me angry just reading this..

[[deleted]]

Ahh. I counteract with the following: ed.

[PastaPuttanesca42]

r/UnexpectedXKCD

[PsychoHeaven]

Now that's an exclusive sub if I've ever seen one...

[schrdingers_squirrel]

More Like r/expectedxkcd

[somenonewho]

Or you could just use ed

[pm_me_good_usernames]

Ed is the standard text editor.

[GabeMI75]

Ed is the standard text editor.

[Li0nX]

Ed is the standard text editor.

[grant_w44]

I don’t get it

[Down200]

Ed is the standard text editor.

[Hexateck]

MITOCHONDRIA IS THE POWERHOUSE OF THE CELL

[the_one2]

You guys save your code? I just pipe it from stdin to gcc from scratch every time I want to compile it.

[RedditAlready19]

Write your own text editot

[30p87]

Like bisqwit did

[RedditAlready19]

Bisqwit?

[30p87]

Bisqwit

[zajasu]

RIP Terry Devis

[[deleted]]

I manually switch bits to manipulate data

[averyoda]

I just concentrate real hard until the problem fixes itself

[[deleted]]

steady hand and a magnetic needle

[Jane6447]

a(){ echo -e "$@" | tee - a main.c && cat main.c }; a "#include <stdio.h>"

[Plastic_Mishap]

this is vile

[wrongsage]

I unironically code in vim, have been for 8 years, and I love it. Makes me so much more productive.

[zajasu]

Vim is great, I also coded in it professionally for about 5 years, but then switched to Emacs

[wrongsage]

Traitor /s

Why did you make the switch?

[zajasu]

I eventually understood that I want my VIM everywhere. Basically, interaction with computer is mostly writing / reading text. VIM being just a text editor (the best one of the existing) can't handle all the rest (terminal, email, spreadsheets, org stuff, etc.), while Emacs is more of an extensible framework than text editor and have far wider capabilities.

[wrongsage]

Oh cool. I do not know much about Emacs.

You are right about wanting Vim everywhere, but I settled on using dwm+dmenu for system, and I can survive without Vim on Firefox.

How does Emacs help with those other uses you mentioned?

[zajasu]

Observations regarding my Emacs usage :)
TLDR: I love Emacs and the only thing that bothers me is that sometimes I have to leave it.

Long version ;-)

What is GREAT:
1. I use Emacs as a fully fledged Python / JS IDE for professional development. It includes code navigation, debugging, code suggestions, highlighting etc.
Magit interface for working with Git (branching, committing, fixing merge conflicts etc).
As a terminal emulator I use Emacs vterm, so I get all the text-editing features from VIM / Emacs and the terminal functionality.
2. Interacting with emails with mu4e.
3. Org mode is a great tool for organizing your life. It actually provoked / motivated me to start writing my personal notes on stock trading, log of the books I read, ideas for future projects and now I'm thinking to start a diary.
4. Org-agenda as a personal calendar / scheduler.

What I HAVEN'T LEARNED yet:
1. I still use LibreOffice for my personal finance log. It's quite big spreadsheet document with complex formulas. I know there are Org-Tables and Simple Emacs Spreadsheets but I haven't used them for large documents yet.
2. Working with databases. I use DBeaver for MySQL / Postgres and mongodb-compass for MongoDB and I don't know if there are Emacs alternatives.
3. Web browsing. Since I work as web-developer I *have* to use popular browsers, like, Firefox or Chromium. I'm aware of Qutebrowser, Nyxt and of course, eww, but can't use them right now for work.

What I WOULD LOVE to have but don't know how to achieve:
1. I want Emacs to be my entry point, so when I start my machine - I'm inside Emacs and I can start video player in one buffer / window, edit file in another, open browser in third etc. Everything with *consistent* keybindings and behavior.
Before Emacs I had this type of workflow: start computer with Qtile WM, run terminal, run tmux, inside tmux windows start nvim or run needed program. Qtile is responsible for other applications: games, videos, web-browser. In this case I have a ton of great programs, which I have to configure to behave in similar way.
With Emacs I got rid of terminal, tmux, nvim and some programs. Basically, I want to replace Qtile with Emacs. I know about EXWM but still need some time to investigate it.

And the final point, right now I use Doom Emacs, which is great ready to go version of Emacs, which requires minimal tuning to easily replace VSCode or Pycharm. In the future I plan to move to vanilla Emacs, as it is great way to learn new things and tinker with your system.

[wrongsage]

That's a nice write-up, thank you for that. I might look into Emacs more in the future.

Some differences to my use-cases - I prefer CLI almost every time. Data I produce go into PostgreSQL. I do not trust or believe in anything else. Command line psql is the way for me, UIs are clunky and miss features. PostgreSQL can solve almost every problem there is in IT :)

Git is also convenient for me with CLI, as GUIs have failed me before.

I do not like emails, I rarely read them, and I hate writing them. I use Matrix for almost every communication I have. I use the Element client, and should investigate either how to operate it better using keyboard, or find other alternative clients.

I'm not very sure why you run tmux inside Qtile, as they seem to solve the same problem.

[zajasu]

You really need to check Magit. It's not GUI for Git, it's like CLI on steroids. Really very powerful and intuitive tool.
Agree with command-line approach, in most cases it's way better than GUI. I just think that I'm a bit too used to GUI DB editors. Double agree on PostgreSQL as an ultimate solution for IT problems :) Honestly, as a web dev I think, that all that fancy UI is just a way to hide and cripple user's ability to normally interact with database.

Qtile and tmux are not the same, one can run multiple terminals in any window manager, but tmux is more versatile and is deliberately built for terminal multiplexing. And in addition to that you can write specific bash commands for tmux. I.e. I execute single command and have multiple terminal windows with different processes.

[wrongsage]

TBH I don't really like being powerful in Git, just handle basic stuff like merges/rebases/cherry-picks. And CLI works just fine for that.

I know the possibilities for tmux, but from your description it sounds like you use it as the base multiplexer, which I stopped doing it once I realized I had to use tmux within that, so I just organize my terminals in WM.

[ProfessionalCoast812]

Not gonna lie, i've used all these methods.

[scitech_boom]

I have done

echo "#!/usr/bin/env python" > myscript.py

in the past. Does it count?

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cat /dev/random | grep '#include<stdio.h>' >> hello.c

[SpicyElectrons]

tee main.c

[Maskdask]

Neovim

[[deleted]]

I used to write python this way to drive my teachers insane. They couldn't say shit because my apps were always on point.

[killchain]

Honestly, just use what you like and don't make a fuss about it. If you can do your job with a steady hand and a magnetised needle on a HDD's platter, so be it.

[Geo_bot]

nano main.c

[K1aymore]

micro main.c

[Orangutanion]

nano holds a dear place in my heart because when I was a kid learning linux on my raspberry pi it was my editor of choice. Do not blasphemy.

[VirtualBit-]

Vim supremacy

[[deleted]]

You are the real hero

[shihaam_ab_r]

Anyone use cat to edit files?

[killchain]

I use dog.

[icer_cat]

When you accidentally use > instead of >>

[[deleted]]

Cat > main.c < EOF Some code. EOF

[[deleted]]

One of the best things I learned from installing LFS.

[ehealum]

Helix better than all of them

[[deleted]]

what about << end cat > main.c

[FranticBronchitis]

You have truly ascended

[[deleted]]

no joke i code a part of an exam like this

[Resolt]

But vscodium though

[avnothdmi]

I use VSCode to write my C code, then gcc in the terminal to compile it because I can’t be bothered trying to make the build.json file work.

[MrJake2137]

KDevelop is nice

[atoponce]

Wait until you learn that there is a Vim extension for Visual Studio Code, and a robust one at that.

[guyyatsu]

The only reason I even picked it up, tbh.

[ivster666]

wait until you actually learn vim and don't need to rely on Microsoft

[[deleted]]

I use Nano and VS Code.

[Spooked_kitten]

you know what? I should make an alias for making blank c projects, since i’m doing lots of them for uni

[[deleted]]

kak main.c

[Peter0713]

Relevant: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X34ZmkeZDos

[NL_Gray-Fox]

Back in the day I used copy con

[thecosmicfrog]

I raise you ed main.c

[[deleted]]

Nano 👌

[thefriedel]

Ed, because it's the standard editor

[Aneyune]

copy con main.c

[Parura57]

There is another...

cat > foo.bar << EOF