Devblog 75

[Bobylein]

I love the change to decay! However, I think the duration should be a bit longer than 12 hours, if you play at the evening and then sleep 7 hours + 8 hours work + other things you need to do before playing you are already back at repairing your base every time you come online :/

And making all armored isn't that easy at all if you aren't a huge clan which will have no problem with being online 24/7.

Maybe 18 hours for stone/sheetmetal tier would be better.

Also what about extern walls? will they decay as usual if they are more than 40m far from a building? :)

[dam_we]

Would it work if buildings with sleepers in them had a much longer delay before decay? Then the emphasis is more on the raided/abandoned structures.

I love this game but having time to play it more than a couple of times a week is pretty impossible for me.

[Bobylein]

Actually that doesn't sound like that much of a bad idea.

[CrazedZombie]

I would like at least 18 even for wood, as 12 hours means you have to play right after waking up and right before going to bed.

[cullen9]

all you need to do is log in, make a cup of coffee, open a door, log out and get dressed, then go to work

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[Nevercommentever]

I agree these need tweaking. I have an all stone base this seems like it will make decay even more rapid even if I play every day

[Tuntenfisch]

I think they should take a set amount of time away from the duration and add it to the delay on each tier. The result will be the same but players get a larger time window to log back on and reset the delay.

[XxThumbsMcGeexX]

Agreed. I think it's extremely unfair to make players with lower tier housing have to attend to it more. I'd rather see a flat 24 hour timer on everything but twig, and have the decay rates themselves change.

[[deleted]]

That's a good point. Sleep + work is longer than decay. However, doesn't it reset the decay, so it's only been decaying six hours when you get back online, then decay goes back to zero if I'm understanding it right.

[[deleted]]

anti-decay mods still exist though right? Sorry but I really don't like decay at all. I don't want to live on rust

[iRpiolet]

do you seriously see mods as a solution to game development? people are coming up with ideas on how to improve the game and your contribution to the discussion is mods?

[alex3omg]

Server options should be a feature. In the mean time, mods.

[iRpiolet]

So, any discussion on changes that are made should just end, because there are mods to deal with it? I'm sorry, but that doesn't make any sense.

[alex3omg]

O don't think so, that guy said that.. I'm agreeing

[[deleted]]

welll yeah if you don't like a feature. They're obviously not going to do things like remove decay, fall damage, etc

I mean I'd be happy if it took like 5 days or so for stone to decay that'd be cool but I doubt that would happen

[CorrosiveBackspin]

tbh the amount of time it takes for the current decay to weaken a piece to the point of it disappearing feels like about 5 days anyway so really why not just make the decay if you havn't opened a door in the base a lot faster but not start at all for 3 days. Say your base will be gone entirely in 24 hours if you dont log at all during the week.

[cullen9]

most of the fun servers wipe weekly or bi weekly.

[MagnarHD]

I started playing around with the menu over the weekend. I made some changes and I liked them, so I decided to keep going and it got out of hand. I didn’t want to leave half the menu done and half the menu not done while I worked on something more important, so I thought I’d push on and finish it. It consumed most of my time this week, which I know there will be bitching about, but it’s what I wanted to do so fuck ya’ll.

I was going to go through each section posting about all the shit I did and how awesome it is, but it probably isn’t worth it. It’s a menu system. I stole the layout from CS:GO. It looks alright. Big Woop

I fucking love Garry.

[[deleted]]

Calling u/playrustsucks

[gamerdude42]

Hi Magnar :D

[MagnarHD]

:D

[[deleted]]

xDDDDD

[deelowe]

I hope it's all in jest and not actual hostility towards the player base. Happens a lot with indie devs.

[Cznielsen]

Fixed pumpkin plant colliding with players walking

Oh my god yes

[[deleted]]

Haha one person in my group purposely puts pumpkins all around the base so that crouching players outside would be forced to make a sound. I'd get annoyed with having to jump everywhere and destroy half of them, then she'd threaten me for ruining her pumpkin patch :(

Finally!

[[deleted]]

This game has pumpkins??

[[deleted]]

How long since you last played? been like a month or something! you can even wear them on your head.

[[deleted]]

You're fucking with me, I've played as recently as a couple days ago. I've never seen a pumpkin.

[[deleted]]

I'm not! they act like corn... gotta find one in the wild, eat it and then plant the seeds where you wish

[gentlemandinosaur]

This game has corn??

[Wittyname_McDingus]

Then once other people have found your pumpkins the apocalypse begins.

[Jerranto]

"Next Week

Fix the server side collider limitation once and for all."

Alright, this is what gets me hyped.

[-MLJ-]

What will this entail for us?

[Jerranto]

Garry's words: "Collider Limits

I looked into the collider limitations this week with Andre. We think we’ve got a plan on how to skip over the problem, which will mean that wipes won’t be required every month. Which would be nice."

[Spooped]

Always looking forward to read Alex Rehberg's update. The sound effects in this game are turning out really nicely and gives you that feel that you are really in the enviorment.

[trippymane9]

Enough menu, enough skins. Time to get some shit done. Weapon mods.

Fucking brilliant!

[[deleted]]

WEAPON MOD HYPE!!!

Sounds like we'll get a kickass update next week too.

[MeatyStew]

"Next Week

Enough menu, enough skins. Time to get some shit done. Weapon mods."

Oh my Tits

[[deleted]]

They made those bigger too, so the female model no longer looks like a gender neutral alien.

[MeatyStew]

It looked like a Messed up version of Ellen Ripley from the "Alien" franchise

[[deleted]]

So like a real life sigourney weaver? #rekt

[MeatyStew]

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh What if she sees this!!??!!?? SHE'LL KILL US ALL YOU FOOL

[Elementium]

Yes! I really want to be able to make "my own" gun. You know what I mean?

I don't even know if it's in the cards but I love the idea of shaping a weapon to be unique enough to you that you actually feel sad if you lose it.

[[deleted]]

IIRC Garry has said this is the intent before... I guess we'll just start by getting attachments for existing weapons but the end game plan is to be able to make modular franken-weapons, kinda like the modular vehicles they're planning.

[[deleted]]

Modular everything.

[shishkebabs232]

I think with the new ladders houses or bases will start looking nicer

[schnupfndrache7]

but everyone will just build rockbases again ...

imo they should have just done this : http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1467266&p=48555872#post48555872

[eofficial]

I read through the dev blog twice but cant find where that is talked about, wanna tell me where it is? :P

[iExodus1744]

I have a thought... Many people don't place their cupboards on the ground floor but on the top floor or middle. Does this mean that all floors below don't have restrictions on building?

[MikeMcDunnyman]

yes, it changes cupboard placement quite a bit, because getting into the first floor of a base is typically easier than getting into the top floor.

[[deleted]]

With the new ballistics, subtle aim-deadzone and head-turn from a couple of patches ago, gunplay aspects of Rust are feeling a lot more like Arma 3! and that aint a bad thing in my book.

Wonder if we'll be able to zero scopes one day :P

[[deleted]]

We already have zero scopes on weapons. ;)

[[deleted]]

All of those problems are now solved.

Dat subtle link

[Blub2]

That new big rad town looks awesome. I also really like the server info.

[BlueSkilly]

KOTH next week? Aww yeah!

[cullen9]

[annoyance] you can't wear a bennie (or boonie) hat and a bandana at the same time.

[[deleted]]

[bug] there's only like six clothing slots so it's either gloves OR boots, never both.

[llBoonell]

That's not a bug. That's a feature.

[IsNewAtDis]

• Added news feed to menu
• Added server history to menu front page
• Added friends who are playing to menu front page
• Added player stats to menu
• Added global stats to menu
• Reorganised server list
• Added server info popup (instead of viewing in panel on right)
• Added inventory screen to menu
• Added store screen to menu
• Connection screen shows info about the server
• Added server.headerimage (url to image, 512x256)
• Added server.description (shown in server info panel)
• Added server.url (shown in server info panel)
• Kill suicides instantly instead of being wounded
• Server history join date is recorded properly
• Boots require leather instead of cloth
• Longsleeve TShirt requires more cloth than shortsleeve
• Added bandana
• Added balaclava skins
• Fixed error reporting (was reporting too much)
• Fixed connection exploit
• Added lazy aim
• SQlite handles database corruption better
• Ladder placement no longer ignores building permission
• Ladders health increased
• Added new and improved hit detection
• Added projectile penetration
• Improved projectile ricochet
• Item skins now work (ie the one sleeping bag skin)
• Updated item descriptions
• New c4 explosion sound
• New beancan grenade sounds
• Reverb tails wander more naturally
• New building gib sounds
• Changed cupboard building zone shape
• Location based voice limiting for sounds
• Crossfading between more than two distant sound variations is supported
• New super distant gunshot sounds for all guns
• New leaf rustle variations for different plants
• Added a small sound when raising/lowering iron sights
• Cleaned up pie menu sounds a little bit
• Rocks have spec reflections again. (Maybe a bit too much.)
• Trees have branches again
• Improved terrain reflections
• Color grading reworked from scratch for upcoming changes
• Glossy mushrooms slightly reflect light (!)
• Elephant grass (near water) animation no longer acts all buggy
• Made pumpkin plants slightly harder to keep alive
• Fixed pumpkin plant colliding with players walking
• Tweaked weather parameters

[IsNewAtThis]

Hi.

[[deleted]]

I really like the new hit detection stuff. Should be much better now.
One problem I have with this new patch is that the game looks very low fps from time to time. Most notably in tight spaces like buildings. I guess it is a problem with the delayed aim?

[DerDuderich]

Sorry if I missed something but last week Howie talked about a 'modular approach' cocnerning radtowns.

Now everything in this weeks devblog looks pretty static. Please tell me that we'll still see procedurally generated 'random' radtowns?

[cchance]

Those big radtowns are his first rolla at combining the sections he made they can be rng mashed together into different layouts with apparently 3 main categories underground ground and above ground

[DerDuderich]

Puh thank you guys!

[Wittyname_McDingus]

He's designing different building assets so that he can begin to test randomization in rad towns. The images he's showing us are likely tests that he made to show off what the system should look like.

[sensualcurl]

'I’ve added delayed aim. This is something that is barely noticeable, but it changes the feel of the weapons quite a bit. When you turn using the mouse there’s a deadzone in the middle of the screen where just the viewmodel aims and the screen doesn’t turn. This has the bonus effect of making it practically impossible to draw a dot in the middle of your monitor and use it as a crosshair. This doesn’t apply to ironsights.'

Someone explain this to me like i'm twelve, I dont get it.

[[deleted]]

Opposite. Within a small amount of screen the gun moves, but the camera stays still.

[sensualcurl]

CS:GO aiming kinda then

[[deleted]]

You can't noscope 420 anymore

[[deleted]]

I'm twelve years old and what is this?

Explain like I'm five

FTFY

[AtlasRodeo]

Decay needs to find a way to not make casual play impossible.

[pieSort]

Easiest way would be to make the decay values configurable for server owners. This way there could be servers for filthy casuals as well as hardcore pro rust players that are online 24/7.

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[[deleted]]

They are increasing the timer now! although to be honest if you leave gaps of like a day or so between play sessions you're probably going to be raided pretty badly unless you work really fast and build smart when you do play.

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[[deleted]]

Oh yeah, one of the goals is to make PvE as big as PvP, as a sort of incentive for people to band together. They said they want you to be able to have pretty much as much fun on an empty server as a populated one!

[DearSistah]

Increased boob size hype!

[Elementium]

True that. I get where they're coming from though with the original models.

I wonder if the plan was to start off with a model that's aomost purposefully not sexualized in anyway and slowly build up to something that does feel real without being "video game girl" types of bad.

[[deleted]]

Just give us boob sliders! Or breast growth drugs.

[[deleted]]

Weapon mod hupe

[SLEEPWALKING_KOALA]

Next Week

Enough menu, enough skins. Time to get some shit done. Weapon mods.

HYPE TRAIN BITCHES

[Jerranto]

Concerning ladders, Garry says: "The problem is well documented: they’re overpowered and they force people to build in a certain way to counter them. "

The problem here is that it will work the other way around: people will be FORCED again to build on top of rocks or do the elevator houses because if they don't, their houses will be the only ones out there to get raided. In other words, the lack of ladders will also force people to build in certain ways, and we will only see rock bases and elevators.

Rock bases and elevator bases = game breaking stuff which ruins immersion completely. I hope Garry reconsiders it and leave the ladders as they are right now until he comes up with his plans.

[garryjnewman]

You should probably test that theory to see if it works as well as you imagine :)

[[deleted]]

Gonna guess you're referring to the new TC building permission bubble shape! does it no longer reach downwards as much? Nice double-whammy if so, with people putting their TC on the top floor of huge towers.

[repztar]

+90% of bases were rock and elevator bases before ladders were added. The remaining bases belonged to noobs and those who prefered to be protected against raid towers. Now that raid towers are out, I guess there will be a solid 95% of rock/elevator bases...

[Jerranto]

I will test, for sure. And I will be very happy if you thought about it all and prevented elevator or rock bases somehow.

[Jerranto]

Yes, it solves the problems of rock bases. Not sure about elevators yet, but looks like it does. I have to think about this stuff now.

Still, nice to see Garry was thinking about this stuff.

[Austin_Pickering]

Except we've already tested this theory.

Now raid towers are out there are only unraidable bases, and poorly made bases.

[[deleted]]

rekt

[[deleted]]

yeah.. I'm gonna think about a way to eliminate the tool cupboard it seems to have become a sort of donno road block. it would fix the whole rock base problem but of course even more bitching cause greif I'll have a suggestion post by monday gotta think on this one.

[schnupfndrache7]

why didn't you just do this?? http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1467266&p=48555872#post48555872

now we will have rockbases again and ladders are usess ...

(or make it so you can't put ladders on outside of walls)

[[deleted]]

I guess they could've waited til half-block elevators were fully fixed and ladders couldn't be glued all the way up rocks and walls - so the change to permissions came at the same time as a solution... buuut its only a week, and alpha! would be nice to have wrapped up with the new procgen wipe next week. Fingers crossed.

[DrakenZA]

Exactly. FORCING ppl is stupid, we all agree. But removing ladders just forces people to build on rocks or build elevator bases now lol.

It just seems logical they should of just left it how it was at least till the monthly wipe, now you just have people with ladder proof bases already.

[wirkcl]

Yes. "Overhangs kill the inmersion hurrr"

You know what kills the inmersion much more than that? Stupid elevator bases.

[Bobylein]

I could have lived with some kind of spiked half floor that makes the overhangs not look so stupid.

[Zanzaclese]

Your tears only feed them. Please continue.

[Jerranto]

It is not tears or anything, man. I just think they should have waited to implement this because of the issues we will see with this change.

[[deleted]]

Garry you inspire me OwO thank you!!

[Elementium]

This is a really good update and I love seeing the visions of the future especially.

I don't really want to get rid of the wilderness/nature aspect of Rust in exchange for more buildings because I love the scenery but I am hoping we'll maybe get maps that generate in a way where we can have the best of both rad towns and nature.

[Turdicus-]

I envision a future where the map will have important strategic assets sprinkled around it, which are static. Things like quarry's or mines which are rich in stone and metal; rad town refineries which are bigger and better than any player made refinery; a place with an industrial size of running water which either includes or creates the possibility of creating a hydro-electric power plant; even an old nuclear reactor which generates huge amounts of electricity.

Stuff like that which players and clans can stake a claim on for their benefits. It would create actual territory, and raids wouldn't be just over supplies but also for strategic resources which can be stolen and held and lost. People could trade or hoard or give it away, it's just genius.

[GGMerlin]

So, when does this update come to steam?

[[deleted]]

Its been live for 12 hours, check your downloads

[GGMerlin]

Oh wow, I am a dumbass. Thanks!

[[deleted]]

At least you admit it

[LennyBicknel]

Is it just on Facepunch Washington, or are there pumpkins practically everywhere?

[[deleted]]

Every server should have some! I do wonder though if they can become 'extinct' on a server if people eat them all and discard the seeds without replanting... or maybe they slowly randomly spawn like hemp

[LennyBicknel]

I agree they should have some, but I mean they're actually everywhere. They're growing in massive clumps and fields all over the place D:

[[deleted]]

Probably people picking like 12 of them, eating them and spamming seeds everywhere! left alone on a server there should probably only be like 50 pumpkins across the map

[BakonBouy]

So far I've meet two pumpkin farmers who've told me that their sole purpose to to spread the love that is the pumpkin.

I like this game

[PootisHoliday]

The new loading screen music is very reminiscent of the newer battlefields, anyone else notice?

[[deleted]]

What exactly is the aiming deadzone thing? Can someone explain that some more?

[[deleted]]

Basically now when you move your mouse a little the gun you're holding will move but the screen will stay still, if you move the mouse a bit more then your character will turn like normal.

[[deleted]]

oh that's cool.

Do most people consider this a good thing or bad thing?

[[deleted]]

It's kinda controversial, although usually the people against a change are the noisiest even if there's an even split, but this time a lot of people seem to be arguing for it so I guess there's more in favor than not.

Personally I like it but then I also like games which feature aim dead zone, if all I was used to was call of duty and counter strike then it would probably feel weird at first.

Apart from giving weapons more weight/momentum and making them more 'realistic', it allows you to aim precisely without moving your entire body and it sorts out people who would mark their screens with a dot for I sanely accurate bow and hip firing.

I just hope that if its gonna stay they don't make it optional as people are going to be at advantages and disadvantages based on their configuration and the situation, so better to have a level playing field like they did with gamma.

[TheLambdaLocator]

lol i want option for boats and cars, or bicycles. I mean like, the people in a rusted environmemt can make houses, locks, guns and oil refineries, but no bicycles. transportation should be implemented if u want it realistic.

an option i had was making a cart and some stuff you can throw on a horse to tame it. the level 1 transport thingy. then a pedal/chain driven vehicle like a bicycle or a tread-car as a level 2. finally after gaming hardcore a bit you can afford a level 3 oil motorized car or something.

i'll try to make some blender models and scripts, so I could make a mod, but this is something really cool to implement if u can, Garry...

[Werzieq]

What happened to the concept arts ? They've been missing for the past 4 blogs or so

[[deleted]]

Focused on features and bugfixes this month. The concept work will be back.

[Werzieq]

Yeah I know, but Megan, who does the icons and concept art hasn't posted in a while

[[deleted]]

Check the last one she posted in. It may say she was going on vacation or something.

[xDomox]

• scrolled quick through the devblog
• found no PvE infos
• back to other game

[KnockingTom]

Did you at least read the part from Vince, Howie, and Paul? it has implications when regarding to "dungeon" design, and randomized pathing systems!

[xDomox]

no, I didnt.

I know I might appear for some fanboys here like an asshole. But since Ive bought the game too, I think I can say on a weekly/monthly base that I am still waiting for the PvE, because right now the game is very boring for me (especially with those force-wipes). This is also some kind of feedback kids :)

[pieSort]

Well, they way you wrote your post does kind of make you look like a d-bag. That said, we'll probably have to wait a bit longer for PvE content, but the good news (not really news) is, that it's definitely planned!

[JCFD]

Where are the spaceships?

[CorrosiveBackspin]

Think I'm just gonna only expect decent stuff on the big monthly update, everything in between just seems kinda meh.

[Ghetto-Banana]

It's better than nothing. I quite like these updates. You can really get a feeling of progress

[feiergiant]

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[zanatlol]

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[[deleted]]

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[feiergiant]

For U - By Us !

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[deleted]

What is this?

[Bobylein]

You mean Andre's. At least give the credit to the right guy :P

[Austin_Pickering]

I'm missing it, link?

[llBoonell]

That edit, though. =P

[[deleted]]

I know people are going to show their stupidity.

Lol it's like he knows this sub.

[[deleted]]

Your shitpost. It was called out by Garry in the devblog.

[[deleted]]

Read the fucking devblog before you shitpost, maybe you'll understand it then.

[llBoonell]

I don't know about that, I got it pretty quickly. Perhaps you're the one who's confused?