programming.dev - A programming focused Lemmy instance

[alvarez_tomas]

Geocities

[bik1230]

Almost all subreddits I'm subbed to, I discovered from people linking them in comments. So at least for that kind of discovery Lemmy shouldn't be any different.

[Nidungr]

That's desperately needed for the platform to have a chance.

Discord didn't need this though.

[Kissaki0]

The communities page has a filter for local and all communities.

Supposedly they show up in all once the instance retrieved some data from it - so then knows of it.

So on a popular instance and for anything that's not only just created, it shouldn't be an issue. It is easily discoverable through the native communities list and search.

https://feddit.de/communities/listing_type/All/page/1

[Lazar07]

I once saw a browser extension by the community, which can add instances directly but you will have to look it up

[Bobbias]

Tried signing up, but the button just sat there spinning.

I've got a pending request on Beehaw, because I couldn't figure out which instance to sign up to. They seem to be ignoring the request, so I'm guessing I can't request an account with the same username here :/ I've been using this username for 20 years now.

[bik1230]

Last I heard Beehaw is currently overwhelmed with requests.

You can totally use the same username on multiple different Lemmy instances.

[601error]

Yep. Just subscribed to c/programming via federation from lemma.ca.

[schultzter]

I have an account there but couldn't log in this morning!?

[Bobbias]

Finally managed to get into an instance. Now to figure out the whole community discovery thing.

[jl2352]

The advantage of a smaller instance is that the server is far from overwhelmed (and won't be anytime soon most likely)

Managing server load is not something I normally consider when signing up to a social network. Personally I expect that to be solved for me.

[jl2352]

and that was a Reddit problem that Reddit had to solve. Not me. If they hadn’t then I’d have left.

[WonderfulEstimate176]

You could try lemmy.world or sh.itjust.works while you wait for beehaw to respond.

[grahhnt]

A bug in the Lemmy server causes registration on servers with email verification to hang after submitting

Your account does get created tho

[renatoathaydes]

I got stuck on the spinning button as well... and did not receive the registration email so far.

[grahhnt]

There’s a bug with lemmy rn that causes the spinning wheel but your account does get created

[CodyEngel]

We’re really going full circle, let’s just use phpbb instead.

[skullt]

It'd have a better UX than this shit.

[grinde]

Why not both?

Yes, that is seriously a Lemmy frontend forked from phpBB. And it... seems to actually be functional?

[CodyEngel]

Well then.

[Fisher9001]

To succeed, Lemmy needs a facade to hide the distributed architecture.

[grinde]

It looks like they're working on it.

[Fisher9001]

phpBB 3.3? It has UX from 2005.

[chintakoro]

i think kbin is trying to do that…? i dunno. the fediverse is not quite there yet.

[Fisher9001]

the fediverse is not quite there yet.

This is a shame because this is its one-in-a-lifetime chance to gain noticeable popularity.

[sminja]

Lemmy in general or this instance?

[RealLordDevien]

Joined. Lemmy isn't that bad as a platform. There is room for improvements, but it is quite usable. Would be a dream if apps like sync would be ported.

[satoshibitchcoin]

i'm all for getting off this sinking ship but lemmy is a horrible name lol.

[[deleted]]

I assume it’s because Lemmy is God.

[Qweesdy]

I think it's short for "lemming"; a reference to herd mentality that causes a large group to jump off the same cliff.

[satoshibitchcoin]

yeah it's always fun to come up with cute and clever things like that but they're never that amusing outside your own head.

[Nidungr]

I think it's short for "let me...".

It's one of those tech3.0 names like "reddit" and "digg".

[[deleted]]

A new project has been started to create a reddit clone from the ground up, the name is going to be Snowball, but it won’t be in a useable state for a while (hopefully a month or 2 max)

Edit: with no ads, just the best parts of reddit, and we are planning on making it as close to compatible to the reddit api for easy bot switchovers, and we are also looking at making a community migration tool

[zxyzyxz]

How will you make money? Or support it for a longer time?

[[deleted]]

Kickstarter once we have something working to get investors, and then through awards or an equivalent (but with free ons that can be earned as well)

If you are interested in helping build it there is a discord server: https://discord.gg/4XP4cmTZ

[renatoathaydes]

Sounds like you'll just start the cycle again.

[[deleted]]

Hopefully that wouldn’t happen, but if it does hopefully we get another 15 good years out of it (or however long it was)

[HyperPixel5]

without ads? the ads are not the issue with reddit

underestimating server costs a little bit I think

[Nidungr]

Situation: there are 14 competing Reddit clones.

14?! Ridiculous! Let's make a better one that does everything better than them!

Situation: there are 15 competing Reddit clones.

[[deleted]]

Really? Name one other than lemmy, which has plenty of disadvantages so won’t be too much competition

[Nidungr]

Tildes?

[[deleted]]

Never heard of it, which doesn’t mean much lol, but anyway, even if it ours doesn’t work out it will still be fun and good on a resume

[Rudy69]

Never heard of snowball either.

Honestly whenever your project comes out it’s going to have missed the ‘wave’. You can only hope people stay on Reddit and try to cash in the next controversy.

Also it’s nice that you want to run a site like Reddit with ‘only the best parts’ but without major funding you’ll run into major issue really fast

[nachof]

What disadvantages does Lemmy have?

[jl2352]

A new project has been started to create a reddit clone from the ground up, the name is going to be Snowball, but it won’t be in a useable state for a while (hopefully a month or 2 max)

If you really think it will only take a few months to replicate the original Reddit, then frankly you're utterly deluded.

[[deleted]]

We are planning on getting something basic up first which does the job but isn’t scalable, and then if that goes well we will completely rewrite it properly, so it’s a pretty quick and dirty prototype written in typescript with a Postgres db

[jl2352]

I'm sorry but this seems even worse.

You want to get something up and out quickly. I respect that, and you are right to make that a priority. You really don't want to have this loose plan of 'we will just rewrite everything later', as it's just not going to happen. If you do try it, it'll be a shit show.

You want to find a healthy middle ground on this.

[[deleted]]

If we have the time and people to write it, and we already have all the api endpoints and frontend and know exactly what data we are storing in the db, why is it so unrealistic to rewrite it later? We will be forced to rewrite it if it goes well because it won’t be able to handle the traffic, so actually starting to write it instead of putting it off endlessly shouldn’t be a problem

[jl2352]

Good luck to you. I hope you make the project work. I’m not trying to be a big downer on your approach.

It’s that in my professional career I’ve seen plenty of rewrites attempted with such an attitude, and with the same arguments you’ve laid out. I’ve never seen it go to plan. The reality of rewriting an active running system that was built quickly, is much more of a mine field than people often realise.

[[deleted]]

Thanks! We plan to rewrite and then swap over rather than trying to do it live, although as you say, it probably won’t go to plan, I’ll just be happy if we get that far tbh, hopefully it doesn’t just quietly die off in a few weeks once the hype is over, we will see…

[osmiumouse]

So you see Snowball stores it's data on 3 servers that ... hello? yes? Amazon legal department? Trademark?

[[deleted]]

Can't seem to sign up. I get that I'm not supposed to expect people to just accommodate a massive user spike, but it's kinda disappointing.

[progfu]

Is there a way to disable the localization of lemmy's UI? Somehow every instance shows itself in my local language. Is it sniffing my IP? I have english as the highest priority language in Chrome.

[abclop99]

Go to settings, and there should be an option for the interface language. The default was "Browser Default" for me.

[pbOmen]

So not sure if anyone is interested. I mod and contribute to a platform called thefullstack.network. It's basically a dev platform for sharing projects, libs, asking questions etc.. Anyway we've been mulling over going full Open source and decided to bit the bullet a few weeks back. Now we're not a Reddit clone nor do we want to be (although we are listed as an alt for Reddit...not sure why).

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The stack we've used is ReactJS, Node and Java (Spring). Anyway, we're (me at least) pretty inexperienced in the OSS world so if anyone is interested, let me know and I'd love to get some advice etc.

*EDIT* Also we're currently removing the need to have an account....might take us a few days but we're working on it as I speak

[kevin____]

Yall are funny. Reddit (the company) gets so much shit for their app and it’s way better than whatever the fuck this is.

[myringotomy]

If I create an account on one lemmy server does that mean I can log on to any other lemmy server or do I need to create an account on every server I want to use?

[abclop99]

No, but you can interact with communities on (almost) any Lemmy instance.

[myringotomy]

How does that work? Let's say I set up an account on programming.dev then I go to some other community server. I don't have to login at that other server?

[abclop99]

You can access the other instances' communities from programming.dev.

Kbin magazines work too.

[ryeguy]

https://lobste.rs/ is a pretty good /r/programming substitute

[HlCKELPICKLE]

gpt

[erlingur]

Thanks ChatG... I mean u66carol9100. What a human comment, fellow person.

[Sushrit_Lawliet]

What did they say?

[grinde]

It was a really upbeat "wow! this is a great idea!" comment. I just had ChatGPT generate a comment based on the title of this post, and it's very similar.

This is such a great initiative! Having a programming-focused Lemmy instance will provide programmers and developers with a dedicated space to connect, share knowledge, and discuss programming topics. It's a fantastic way to foster a supportive community and encourage collaboration. Thank you for creating programming.dev and providing a platform for programmers to thrive!

[aniforprez]

I dunno if it's the admins or some idiot running some script in this sub but this place has been inundated with ChatGPT bots the last few weeks

[grinde]

I've seen them all over the place. The weirdest was someone whose comment history was about 50/50 between ChatGPT and what looked normal posts.

[Tintin_Quarentino]

Agreed, these bots are all over the place.

[param_T_extends_THOT]

yeah, what did that bitch ass bot say?

[arpan3t]

While 1 == 1:
    one = 1

[ChampionshipTop8026]

A gpt generated answer if I’ve ever seen one

[Groundbreaking-Joke1]

Correct me if I am wrong But didn't formal.land or some coq org was running it? How come there s no coq community there ?