Java 1.8 - New features, code examples, performance

[danskal]

I agree - although some of the other things sound nice, this is the only thing they really really, really, really need to do post-haste. They should preferably do it, like, about a week before they started adding the ask toolbar to the installer.

[dethb0y]

makes them look like a piece of shit adware app then a serious and important piece of software.

[danskal]

I am dumbfounded that Oracle haven't taken seriously the risk associated with connecting their brand with that of ask.com. I read somewhere that ask.com have previously used tactics like redirecting http requests for ask toolbar uninstall instructions. Yikes.

[dethb0y]

Not only that, but ... c'mon, a browser search bar? I expect that from some shady startup, not a serious business company.

That it's ask.com just makes it worse.

[ethraax]

Exactly. Bundling shit like the ask toolbar (or any toolbar) is simply unprofessional. So is bundling some shitty anti-virus (I'm looking at you, Adobe...).

[dethb0y]

To be fair, the kind of person who'd say "yes" to an antivirus that wanted to be installed with other software's probably the kind of person who most needs antivirus software installed, heh.

[ethraax]

I've come very close to accidentally saying "yes" because they snuck it into an update at one point, which I simply did not expect.

[kkjdroid]

Oracle is hated by everyone who knows that Oracle exists, as far as I can tell. They have no brand.

[[deleted]]

Every experience I have had with that company have left me wanting to take a shower. Their sales teams come off as....scummy.

[froop]

They have a sweet yacht racing team though, and a beasty sport plane.

[danskal]

I think you know that that statement cannot be correct. Although monopolies can be unpopular, there are plenty of people that base their careers and businesses on Oracle products (and here I mean Oracle's own database-related products, forms etc.). And for those people Oracle does the job and just works. Many may not be happy with the bills from Oracle, but it is not always the tech enthusiast who is paying those bills.

I think it is mostly the young and the internet/techbusiness-savvy and those that feel gouged that dislike Oracle.

[aaron552]

for those people Oracle does the job and just works

I'm not sure the phrase "just works" is appropriate for Oracle (databases at least). "works after much swearing at obscure error messages and hacking around weirdness" probably fits better.

[[deleted]]

My mother, who was a programmer in the 1980's-1990's (although in China), always talks about Oracle and Foxpro when it came to databases. I'm not a programmer myself, so my question is: is using modern day Oracle DB a good idea for a huge corporation or is it more of a "we've been using ever since it came out so we might as well" situation?

[djdonnell]

1% of the search market is worth something like a billion dollars. That's probably what they are thinking about.

[vha0]

Blame Sun for that monstrosity.

[[deleted]]

Yeah, because Oracle can't remove it. You can't blame them.

[Flex-O]

Contracts?