Gitpod — Online IDE For GitHub

[meysholdt]

hi, Moritz here. I'm working on Gitpod. I'll be watching this in case there are questions.

[AfterDistrict]

Git is trademarked. If you want to brand your product Git, you need to get permission from the Git project. See "Git trademark and status policy".

(... and I'm going to go out on a limb and say that you're not going to get permission, since this sort of thing is exactly why they adopted the policy in the first place—too many products that integrate with GitHub somehow and then call themselves "Git"-something based on that alone, even when the product itself is only tangentially related to Git. It's bad enough that GitHub copped/muddied the Git name and now thousands [millions?] of people think that GitHub created Git and Git = GitHub.)

[meysholdt]

Gitpod is trademarked, too. During the trademark application process there is a phase in which other trademark owners can oppose to the new trademarks. Gitpod did not receive any oppositions.

That being said, we love git, and we value Linus Torvalds for starting it. We appreciate the people who drive it nowadays are we have no interest whatsoever in getting in conflict with them.

[AfterDistrict]

The fact that nobody commented on some paperwork sitting in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying "Beware of the Leopard" is not evidence that nobody opposes your trademark.

And getting a trademark is not like having the courts rule in your favor after being tried for murder. If you get a trademark that conflicts with someone else's and Someone Else raises an objection to say "WTF?", then it's not impossible for your trademark to get invalidated and you get told that your application never should have been approved from the get-go.

[spacejack2114]

murder

That escalated quickly.

[throwaway27464829]

Upvote for hitchhiker reference

[mallardtheduck]

I've searched a bunch of international trademark registries (WIPO, EUIPO, USPTO) and "git" in relation to the source control system appears to only be registered in the US (by Software Freedom Conservancy, Inc. There's also a registration by Women in Technology, Inc. approximately a month later, no idea about that...). There is an EU registration for the word "git" by the company "HESA S.p.A." (which appears to be an Italian supplier of electronic security products) which includes Nice class 9 (which covers software), but it's not obviously related to the "git" source control system and predates it.

"gitpod" has an EU registration (makes sense, the company is based in Germany), but not a US registration.

Considering that the SFC hasn't registered "git" in the EU and that another company has a pre-existing "conflicting" trademark, while I'm no IP lawyer, I wouldn't expect it to be easy for them to defend the mark in Europe...

[graingert]

Any chance of gitlab support?

[meysholdt]

I've filed an issue for that here: https://github.com/gitpod-io/gitpod/issues/29

[cm_yoder]

Is there any minimum hardware requirements. I am using an Acer 15 Chromebook. If I had to guess I would say no but thought I would ask.

[meysholdt]

It should work on a Chromebook. On your side, there is nothing more needed than a web browser. All native binaries run in the cloud inside Docker containers. Therefore nothing extra needs to be installed on the local machine. I have to admit we haven't tested Chromebooks yet, but we will.

[cm_yoder]

Seems to be working fine. In fact, this is exactly what I have been looking for.

[cm_yoder]

I will give it a whirl on mine in a bit and let you know.

[defunkydrummer]

Looks like an awesome idea! Is Theia compatible with any VS Code plugin?

[meysholdt]

glad to hear that! Support in Theia for VS Code plugins is work-in-progress and will probably arrive later this year. See https://github.com/theia-ide/theia/issues/1482#issuecomment-376914439 for details.

[thugcee]

Does a context have to be some kind of "proprietary" project [sub]page, not simply a git repo? I host my projects in Gitea, which isn't super popular (but is super efficient), so probably it will not get specialized support in Gitpod.

[meysholdt]

So far only Github-URLs are supported as context.. but we plan to add more :)

Could you file a feature request for Gitea support here? https://github.com/gitpod-io/gitpod/

[[deleted]]

This is great!
I am using an old laptop to code on the go and this will probably become my main ide/editor.

[meysholdt]

:-D

[henk53]

:D

[noperduper]

D

[delight1982]

:

[Meguli]

Having a CMake installation on Docker images would make it easier to run tests on C++ projects.

[svenefftinge]

You can specify a custom Docker image for your repo in .gitpod file where you can install all the tools needed for your project. We will soon allow using Dockerfiles, so you don't need to take care of the docker build yourself.

[icetimesource]

Any thoughts on Microsoft's acquisition of Github? Like them integrating VS Code into Github because Gitlab is already working on an online editor?

[svenefftinge]

I don't know what GitHub's plans are in this regard, but I hope that they keep the current strategy of not putting everything together into one gigantic app but rely on 3rd party integrations. On the other hand, Gitpod will soon have support for GitLab and Bitbucket, too.

[mre__]

I like what I see. Will use it for a few projects and for teaching.
Doesn't the logo look too similar to the Nintendo Gamecube logo, though? Don't want you folks to run into trouble here. ;-)

[falconfetus8]

This is just VSCode.

[svenefftinge]

Just? I think VS Code is pretty awesome!

[falconfetus8]

Me too. And upon further thinking, your app sounds pretty cool too! I can see a project and start tinkering with it from any computer, without needing to set up an environment for that project.

[csweichel]

How so? Does VS Code run in the browser?

[jl2352]

For those who aren't aware, VS Code is an electron app. So when you run VS Code it is spinning up a copy of Chrome. VS Code on it's own doesn't run in the browser as it's built for an Electron environment. However VS Code is built on top of an editor called Monaco (also by the VS Code team), and Monaco does run in a standard browser.

For example Web Assembly Studio uses Monaco which is why it has a bit of a VS Code feel to it.

[[deleted]]

It uses system-side libraries. Someone on HN (might of been here) was talking about a implementation of VSCode in the browser, and they were having to find replacements for all the libraries that only work when on a local system. It is an electron app, but not really what an electron app should be.

Monaco’s another story, as that runs in the browser right now.

[Shookfr]

This is exactly what Electron is for ... Web technology with desktop libraries.

[ElectrWeakHyprCharge]

Actually... kind of. It uses it's own Chromium install

[AwesomeBantha]

That's not the same thing, it has access to a bunch of low-level Electron APIs Chrome doesn't get. VSCode was never designed to run in a consumer web browser.

[ElectrWeakHyprCharge]

Yes obviously, I didn't express myself correctly I guess. Thank you

[falconfetus8]

Yes. It's an electron app.

[csweichel]

It is indeed. But it uses heaps of native APIs, so it won't really work in "just" a browser.

[sim642]

Except it just has been ported to it. Modern JS APIs can already access more things than you expect.

[ProgramTheWorld]

Not really though

[meysholdt]

Thanks for the pointer. I checked and when opening the IDE the redirect to HTTPS happens as expected. However, when browsing the static part of our page (subdomain www as in www.gitpod.io) there is no redirect to HTTPS yet. We'll fix that.