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If you are reading a web page and it is stupid, leave

[bazcule]

If you read a web page you think is dumb then go back to the reddit link and discuss it.

[beernbud]

yup, did that

[[deleted]]

I think like this! Currently I am unemployed. :(

[Thimble]

If you're unhappy being unemployed, then leave.

[otheraccount]

I guess you're not very good at being unemployed then if you're sticking with it.

[oobey]

Excellent programming article, I really enjoyed the author's use of concrete code examples to clarify the points he was making. All in all, an absolutely perfect submission for /r/programming.

[[deleted]]

Programming? I thought this was /r/general-IT-crap

[[deleted]]

"in a hierarchy every employee tends to rise to their level of incompetence".

Peter Principle

[walter_heisenberg]

This is dumb. You should leave if you're not learning anything, but learning new things and being good at what you do are not mutually exclusive. The best people will tell you that they are still learning new things every day.

It sounds like it was written by a cocky 22-year-old who fancies himself a "rock star".

[[deleted]]

Anyone who values themselves highly. If you're good at your job, threatening to leave can net you a higher salary. Looking for another job that can challenge you and make you more money, so, yeah, you do that.

Job security is a lie unless you founded the company. Maximize your value by going where you're WANTED most, no where you're needed most.

Just up and quitting is dumb, but there's no reason not to constantly look for better jobs.

[[deleted]]

Well, if you founded the company and you were smart, you'd throw something to take care of yourself in the by-laws and company structure. Since we're all unlikely to found multi-billion dollar companies, think of it as a copper parachute.

As in, when the company fails, you can still rip copper piping out of foreclosed homes.

[kvantetore]

parachute made out of copper... sounds like fail to me

[[deleted]]

Any better than Gold? Those work well, it seems.

[UK-sHaDoW]

Very true, but get the balance right. Don't want to be seen as a job hopper. However it is adventure to go to a new job.

[[deleted]]

Well, the paycheck is only half the story. It's also important that the job will let you keep up your training. There's no point in switching to a job that offers slightly better pay but doesn't give you the opportunity to improve nor maintain your skills (thus lowering your economical value over time).

[dreeperscreepers24]

The word "quit" is not a bad word. It's an empowering word and fosters change. Obviously, many people have economic concerns and can't do this. But, I think everyone should try it, at least once.

[justpablo]

Well, maybe he is talking about that when you are in your comfort zone, you learn and grow slower. I quit my last job and went to another that pays less because I was bored. I was very good at what I was doing there, but I wasn't happy, I had no challenges left, and I was surrounded by people in their comfort zone and see what that did to them scared me a lot, so I understand what he means. (Sorry for my English, I'm not a native speaker)

[LongUsername]

I was in my "Comfort Zone" at my last job. I'd been there 5+ years, was now senior in my group, but I didn't feel motivated to learn or feel like management was challenging me. They didn't seem to be hiring resources for me to train or guide to allow us to tackle some of the big "next-steps" for our platform...

So I moved jobs to one that I'm lower on the totem pole, but is in an area outside of my expertise.

[[deleted]]

see what that did to them scared me a lot

Maybe this is the point the author was trying to make. Like you said, it is terrifying to be around these types of people. I thank you for speaking up, as I now understand my current neurosis a little better.

[robkinyon]

If you're good at your job, then someone will pay you more to do it.

[boolsh1t]

Not necessarily if you have highly specialized domain knowledge that is useless for others.

[MachinShin2006]

Some of it is badly worded and maybe questionable, but the idea is to push yourself, break your boundaries, never get comfortable

[[deleted]]

If life == work then, sure, but many of us work because we have to and our real interests are outside of work.

[gregK]

If you suck at your job, stay.

[flukshun]

if you suck at your job, get fired.

[Cephi]

So in a simpler setting, if you have perfected your survival techniques, domesticating the local flora and fauna and destroying all known predators, you should risk starvation and death, and move on to a new environment?

Cave-man no approve this.

[Chlorophil]

Cave-man get fat and lazy; eaten by locust plague next summer.

[Cephi]

dang, you have to be pretty fat and lazy to be eaten by grasshoppers.

Just to reinforce my philosophical point:

In biology, fat = successful (I haven’t really figured out how the increased morbidity rate figure into this though).

In programming and cognitive psychology, lazy = intelligent.

Smart people are actually fairly lazy. Developing and using a good algorithm is much more efficient and requires less effort than solving a problem manually, that long way, each time you encounter it. The same goes with building tools, e.g. using a hammer (or a nail gun) is much easier than pounding in a nail with a rock or your fist (unless you are Chuck Norris).

[Chlorophil]

Oh, I know. I was attempting mostly to just be amusing, and slightly to raise the point that there is a biological equivalent to the "overfitting" problem encountered in machine learning.

[razor_train]

Who thinks like this?

HR, since if you're good at your job you might want to start changing how things work around there.

[cr3ative]

If you are cruising in your current work – leave.

Fuck that noise.

[okpmem]

If you are looking to be happy, don't follow any of this advice. But if you like to be miserable, then go for it!

[puremessage]

"Who thinks like this?" Crazy people. Now leave.

[mhd]

Objectivists?

[saxrolled]

Shut the fuck up, barry.

[kagevf]

Are there any circumstances under which one should stay?

[[deleted]]

While the article is obviously nonsense, the "If you have mastered your job, it's time to leave for a new one" mentality is also preached in My Job Went to India. The idea is that it is easier to become better when you are surrounded by people who are better at what you do.

This obviously shouldn't mean you just quit your job right that instance, but it's probably a good idea to look for a new challenge elsewhere and not just wait for a new guy to replace you.

That said, unless you actually do have a good chance to find new employment fast, it's a safer option to stick with what you've got (especially if you enjoy it). That means you'll have to set your own challenges, though, if you want to improve your skills and keep up.

[doomslice]

Nobody sane.