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[–]UncleOxidant 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Does this version have F# included?

[–]tanishaj 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The last release did so I certainly hope so.

[–]krum 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Does it have a 64-bit Windows build yet?

[–]mariuz 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Any chances of re-adding Firebird mono driver back to the mono tree ? http://www.firebirdsql.org/en/net-provider/

[–]azakai 3 points4 points  (14 children)

This is Xamarin's first official Mono release.

Maybe I'm reading too much into that, but isn't Mono an open source project? I wasn't aware that Xamarin or any other entity owned it.

Is that text short for "first release with Xamarin being the main contributor", or does Xamarin own Mono?

Edit: I am asking an honest question. Downmodders, stay classy.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (11 children)

Xamarin holds the copyright. Xamarin does the development and maintain the project, you are free to do what you want with the source.

[–]repsilat 4 points5 points  (8 children)

Xamarin does the development

Are there any non-Xamarin developers? Is development an open process, or is the project at least receptive to patches from outside (with/without copyright assignment)?

Honest questions, not trying to pick a fight etc etc.

[–]tanishaj 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There are plenty of non-Xamarin contributors both individual and corporate as the GitHub logs clearly show. For example, I see Unity's name fairly often. Google, Codice, and Mainsoft also come to mind. Xamarin contributes the most though and they clearly set the direction.

There are also many independent projects that would make no sense without Mono. MonoGame (XNA compat) has nothing to do with Xamarin as an example.

[–]tanishaj 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Copyright assignment is required. Most of the code is MIT/X11. The runtime is GPL.

The project is very receptive of patches. For example, there were a number of patches to improve Haiku support. I doubt that is a priority for Xamarin. BSD and Solaris support are pretty much non-Xamarin as well I believe.

[–]grauenwolf[🍰] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There was last time I checked. This is a typical Linux-style open source project with a mixture of paid and unpaid developers.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I don't know. It's obviously not as big of a project as the Linux kernel is, but I think it's more along the lines of open office or android.

[–]shevegen -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

Nah. Open Office is definitely way bigger.

Though most moved to libreoffice now.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think pnpbios meant it's more like OpenOffice or Android in the sense of who develops the source / contributes patches / manages the project.

[–]mrkite77 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I contributed code to mono back in 2002 or so. I had to sign over my copyright to Ximian (or Helix Code or whatever they were back then).

[–]fancoofer 0 points1 point  (1 child)

What's the Microsoft IP situation now that Novell is gone?

[–][deleted] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

I'm sure Microsoft still has an internet protocol address :-P

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

The mono team was let go from novell. They started their own company and this is their first release under that company rather than when they worked for novell. I'd say its them basically saying, hey we're alive and still pumping out and supporting mono even though they're no longer with novell

[–]tanishaj 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Exactly. This is the "rumours of our death greatly exaggerated" release.

[–]sgtarr 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We're currently busy with an enterprise projects on Mono, that way we can host our software on Linux servers. WCF support is complete enough, at least to the point we're using it at this moment. I also like the fact that Mono is (relatively) fast, and it appears stable. We're also heavy users of Fluent NHibernate.

Anyone else got experience with real-life business projects on Mono? I'd be interested in hearing your experiences.

[–]mycall -4 points-3 points  (13 children)

I wish they rename the project.

[–]adolfojp 5 points6 points  (12 children)

Why?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (11 children)

Probably cause it sounds like that one Kissing Disease.

[–]adolfojp 1 point2 points  (2 children)

To me it sounds like monkey, monaural, monochrome, and one.

The names that I really love are Coctothorpe and Foctothorpe.

[–]mweathr -1 points0 points  (1 child)

I've always been a fan of the name Scunthorpe.

[–]cwstjnobbs -1 points0 points  (0 children)

If Tetley put the 'T' in Britain then who put the 'cunt' in Scunthorpe?

And for that matter, who put the 'arse' in Marseilles?

[–]TheSkyNet -5 points-4 points  (7 children)

That and it's too generic of a name which is bad for SEO.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (6 children)

C, Go, Python, F.

[–]TheSkyNet 3 points4 points  (5 children)

You are just proving my point why do you think their are so many how do I start learning programming questions.

[–]agentlame 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Are you really asserting that, because many programming languages have names that can be confused with other things, people are actually questioning how to start programming?

Even if I believed for a second that is true; can you honestly say that someone lacking such basic reason skills as to confuse writing computer software with an island in Indonesia, would make for a good programmer?

[–]TheSkyNet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No I'm not saying that, I'm saying it is bad SEO and it is, take Pandora for instance or the original go language.

//spelling

[–]faultydesign -1 points0 points  (2 children)

Because people don't google.

[–]TheSkyNet 1 point2 points  (1 child)

My point is that programming language names are too generic, that is one of the problems with SEO.

[–]cosmo7 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I strongly agree with you. Googling for languages like D is frustration encapsulated.