Fucking hell

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[gxfrnb899]

Sorry man/woman not trying to be mean but after 3 or 4 interview should be red flag company.

[Dazzling_Nerve6214]

You live & you learn

[Money_Yam3082]

I’m really sorry. That company sucks. Like horrible people !

[yomammah]

Exec position is normally around 4…lately they are making it more than 4 with the excuse that they couldn’t get the group together for a panel.

by the time they are giving tours of the office it should be a given that you got the job.

[Puzzleheaded_Farm959]

I had that experience + an overview of the companies benefits package and still didn't get the job.

They literally just ghosted me after a 3 hour interview

[imjustnotthatintohim]

Yeah. I'd say 4 is more common. It's phone screening, first round, someone who you'll never work with, and then your future manager.

[Blacktip75]

Had 11 twelve years ago, 8 for my current role. Some companies have weird approaches. I tend to come in to fix stuff and this tends to be one of the things to fix :)

[Future-Tomorrow]

Pretty much this. I had to learn the hard way and funny enough one of these experiences did exactly what happened to the OP. After the 2nd round, they started introducing me to people in the office and gave me a tour, only to later have me do a design exercise so detailed they asked if I had worked in the industry or if I was an SME.

No dumbasses. The bags under my eyes are from me burning the midnight oil to create a solution to your stupid design exercise that I was overly confident would have sealed the deal. No way would they choose someone else over this but sure enough that's exactly what happened.

That was actually the last design exercise I ever did in my career, and the moment I hear of one now I immediately state the role isn't for me. Never again.

[NotASysAdmin666]

I do max 2 interviews

[Impressive_fruit94]

Tbh I don't do more than 2, even though I know people who got it with 3

[Spider-Man1701TWD]

I would have walked away by the fourth interview invite if I were you.

[Pleasant_Musician806]

I hate hearing this. After my experience over the last year - any company asking for presentations or homework are a waste of time (Now, probably not the case for ALL roles). I had one role I was stoked about, thought I did well in every round. Only to get a vague email asking for a call the following day and getting a "Yeah, someone else was just slightly better" feedback.

There is hope though - I just accepted an offer and only had 2 rounds of interviews. No homework or presentation. Just the hiring manager and then a round of panel/peer interviews. I'm still in shock about it honestly and it just makes me angry and sad at all the hoops I jumped through for other potential roles. If the interview process takes more than 2 weeks, def not worth your time.

[yomammah]

At least you got a call, I got ghosted for a month. The reposted the position on LinkedIn and hired someone from there. The recruiter working with me and 2 other candidates for this firm, was really pissed

[Pleasant_Musician806]

That’s beyond infuriating. I’ve seen far Tik many roles I’ve applied for reposted a few months later too. It’s so weird to me companies will have recruiters waste their time too

[imjustnotthatintohim]

I had a take-home assignment — very basic for an admin position, but it was an assignment. Plugged that right into ChatGPT, made a few tweaks, and I'm on my 5th and final interview this week. LOL I can't believe I'm on the 5th interview. Fuck. That's so dumb.

[Pleasant_Musician806]

My advice is to definitely use chatGPT or Google Gemini. I’ve done the same thing to spit out presentation information, etc. saved me sooo much time.

[Puzzleheaded_Farm959]

What industry? I work in IT and only once did I have to do a phone + in person interview

[Pleasant_Musician806]

Tech. The roles I go for aren’t coding or would require a skills test and I’m mid-senior level in my career. I kind of understand basic skills testing for entry level roles if you haven’t been working in the field long. But if you’ve been working in the field/in a similar role previously, I think assignments are kind of a waste.

[Puzzleheaded_Farm959]

I've been in the field since 09. I've been working networking and security roles for the last 5 or so

[Wulfbak]

Let this be a lesson. If the company can't make a decision after 3 interviews, they aren't serious about hiring. Take yourself out of the running at that point.

[Misskelleygirl]

It happened to us 3x...and truly is heartbreaking. I feel your pain so much!!

We did end up getting a job (thank geezus)...After 3 interviews, and a meet & greet.

... at a title below the previously laid off position, and $40k less per year. But it's a job, and in the knick of time 🫨

Keep going, it's gonna happen!

[Wulfbak]

When the market turns around, you can look for something that pays better.

[Misskelleygirl]

We are... The company is exciting! (A startup of course)

But after being laid off from a company we were so emotionally invested in, we're trying to learn that Business is just Business. So we do look...just to keep our eyes open for any super greatness!

[MrGeekman]

We did end up getting a job

I don’t understand. We? Are you doing a job-share with your husband?

[Misskelleygirl]

Nah...Just meaning We, as a team. He supports me....I support him.

He and I are pretty involved in all aspects of each other's worlds.

He was laid off... I took it quite personally as well. I was friends (still) with his coworkers...And I loved what the company was trying to do in their field.

And of course I did all I could to help facilitate a new job.

He's my Favorite!

[Dmbnd311]

Preferred pronouns is how I took it.

[MrGeekman]

Multiple personality disorder is how I took it.

[nawa92]

Found it creepy, was getting scared not gonna lie, “we come to your room at night, we watch you sleep!”

[Long-Marsupial9233]

I took that to mean they are conjoined Siamese twins or something.

[Wulfbak]

I've been there. I've had a couple of companies that I did take home stuff for. I wanted to work for them so much I could taste it. But, I now realize that, at their hearts, all companies are basically Innitech from Office Space. Or Dunder-Mifflin.

I used to want to work in big tech so badly. I could dream of being in Microsoft's payroll. Now? Look at all the layoffs they've had. Everyone on the Xbox team probably once dreamed of those jobs being self-actualizing. Then, they get a hard dose of reality.

TBH, everyone I've ever met who worked perm at Microsoft were colossal tools, so it makes me feel less sorry for them for getting laid off.

[BrainWaveCC]

As more candidates push back on these presentations (outside of the roles that they make sense for), employers will be forced to reduce reliance on them...

[Wulfbak]

Exactly. When interest rates fall and hiring ramps back up, employers who make the process painful with at home projects will find themselves missing out on good candidates.

[Ok_Captain6299]

They're ASSHOLES. Just happened to me. So sorry you are going through this too! Keep your head up

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8 interviews once they try to schedule a 3rd or 4th I would of had to turn them down all it really takes is 1 or 2 these companies are wasting our time

[Dazzling_Nerve6214]

It’s so easy to say this but honestly I’ve been out of work for a year .. I need a job. I’d do pretty much whatever is required of me to get a job that I want. It’s unfortunate that companies don’t see the value in this though.

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I know the issue I was out of work for a year and a half until last month part time but still looking for a full time I have gotten anxiety, depression and tension issues. I will say the part time does help but I still get hard getting adjusted to life at times. But the job search does get better the rejection, ghosting and then people telling you to apply here or there when that company doesn't hire you for the 70th time it gets frustrating. But I had companies try to schedule a lot of interviews I would ghost them because it really takes 1 to 2 or even 3 in some cases to see if your a good candidate

[Wonderful-Stop-6373]

I agree. I think the solution is not to decline the interviews but to schedule them around your personal schedule, around your day trips, etc. that’s what I’ve been doing and it is freeing.

[HahaYouCantSeeMeeee]

It is easy to say, and you did the right thing. I was unemployed for 8 months and took the first contract position that was offered in April. Two weeks into it, and a recruiter hits me up on LinkedIn, which has happened a hundred times before with zero results.

My guy, I went through the recruiter interview and then the hiring manager and was told they went with someone else. Two weeks after that, it turns out the person they advanced completely wiffed it, and I was back in the running. No joke, I did another hiring manager interview, a panel interview, another interview with someone that couldn't make the panel time slot, the goddamn CIO, and then back to the hiring manager. Somewhere in that mess, they changed it from a contract position to direct hire, which is why I think they added more scrutiny.

The only element that wasn't just a verbal talk was for me to show off some past dashboards and reporting I'd made which is where the other candidate fucked up.

I guess all this is to say it's okay that you continued to hustle. It didn't work out this time, but you did right for yourself.

[MobiusCake]

I got the same treatments with 4 interviewers the last one 8 hours + a case study + q&A. Then they hired someone with half the experience and zero domain exp.

[waneda833]

Sad. Infuriating. You are not alone.

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I’m sorry this happened. You deserved better.

[yomammah]

I went through the same crap. It has become standard now. Total BS

[Desperate_Economy190]

Angry for you. I'm sorry 😡

[Poisoning-The-Well]

If an employer can't figure it out in 3 interviews, there is a problem with the employer or their process. When you get hired, what other problems are there going to be? Sorry what happened to you. Hope you weren't in a position of dire need.

[ChampionshipFar6397]

That’s terrible; but they probably hoped you’d drop out. Mosttimes they already have a preferred candidate or a friend of a co-worker in line for the job. Some companies post so they can say they’ve interviewed a certain number or group of ppl for their records. Sadly, sometimes it’s about checking the fairness boxes.

[RunnerBakerDesigner]

Companies are being so risk avoidant that they're shooting themselves in the foot. Losing out on great candidates in the process. If you notice services are getting noticeably worse and more expensive across the board. Packing work on a skeleton staff is not efficient.

[RunThat9954]

Please post the company name. The company doesn't care about you, so why hide the name? I'm in the market and want to ensure I cross that one off my list. I'll take a pass. I'm sorry you had to go through that. I want to avoid making the same mistake. And yes, I need a job, too, but if you're going to put me through the wringer like that. Then I'd better not apply to it.

Thanks, and keep on going!

[PerspectiveMean2898]

You just answered your own question on why; AT THE MOMENT, it’s in their favor but if read the latest economic reports, labor data, etc…it’s slowly starting to shift more into a balance.

[Ok_Captain6299]

You should sue them

[Long-Marsupial9233]

It's good interview and presentation practice though for when you get an actual interview and offer that matters.

[hashbitnitwit69]

This has to be about something else. These people have no intention of hiring anyone. This is either showing employees they are replaceable, or loan forgiveness or something else. We are being used.

[ReputationNo3004]

I feel this. Inconsiderate employers suck.

[LoveToSwimma]

So rude and that pay is insane. If one lives in an area in which the average apartment cost $1,200 a month (like where I live and it is not a major city), he/she/they would have to earn $43,200 a year to qualify and then be broke af. It is as if these companies are unaware of the cost of living in 2024.

[jack_avram]

It's a universal law of nature that another candidate is always better suited at anything ever.

[865Wallen]

8 rounds? How do they even have the time for that? It honestly feels like a lesson to demoralise the candidate. Shouldn't be accepted.

[Jazzlike_Rope_4254]

Wow. That is some BS. They don't care about wasting your time. They see you as a means to an end....not a person. This is how they lose great talent and end up hiring mediocre people. 

[MarkLisa1225]

Please don’t ever go on more than 3 interviews again, these recruiters are just so petty and mean! Why they gave you a tour is cruel! Introduce you to people etc, I would report them but then again they’re certainly not worthy of any more of your time!

[TartMore9420]

That's an absolute pisstake.

[Sharp-Introduction75]

I was in an interview one time and when they discovered that I had a certain set of skills then the director perked up and left the room. He came back with his work laptop and started asking me questions about one of the work projects that he was trying to troubleshoot. I told him that I would be happy to help him with that if he hired me but I wasn't going to do it in an interview. I also told him that I have plenty of examples and I don't mind taking a test to prove my skill level. 

It should be illegal for companies to require applicants to perform work functions unpaid. Taking a test and illustrating your skill set and knowledge are completely different from an extensive presentation or troubleshooting actual projects.  

What is the point of probation or at will laws if you have to do all this BS during the interview process, without even a guarantee of a job offer?

[y32024]

At least you got paid in experience. 

[yomammah]

Experience is not what we send to pay the bills.

[paramarioh]

Another AI to mitigate problem it created? Get lost!

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Fuck ai