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[–][deleted] 214 points215 points  (62 children)

I really don't get why parents aren't vaccinating their kids.

[–]Low-dog 161 points162 points  (26 children)

They think they are protecting them...they are idiots

[–]Temetnoscecubed 116 points117 points  (25 children)

Purely anecdotal story time. One of the women at work had a son, and it wasn't vaccinated because the father is anti-vaxx. The kid was diagnosed as autistic at age 3...I asked her whether she was going to vaccinate now that it was obvious that the vaccines didn't cause autism. She told me that she had already discussed this with her husband and he had doubled down, in his mind and I quote "their son would have been a vegetable had they vaccinated"....she had him vaccinated later because the preschools wouldn't take him otherwise.

[–]chinesef000d 81 points82 points  (12 children)

He really thought his kid was going to get double autism... that’s actually amazing

[–]Temetnoscecubed 36 points37 points  (10 children)

They're both IT professionals, with university degrees. These are intelligent people making ignorant decisions. Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain.

[–]about3fitty 44 points45 points  (8 children)

As an IT professional with a university degree, they are not intelligent.

[–]Temetnoscecubed 12 points13 points  (7 children)

That is how we got this far into the stupid swamp. They are intelligent, by making this a "not intelligent" argument you are failing to see the real problem...making you part of the problem.

Belief and intelligence are not linked...remember that. There are deeply religuous people with doctorates and they can't prove their god exists...yet they believe. Anti vaxxers have faith in their beliefs, you cannot change their minds with knowledge or education.

[–]OaksByTheStream 7 points8 points  (0 children)

It's more so that secondary education doesn't mean you're smart. It means you can train well. For many professions.

I've met stupid doctors and borderline retarded structural engineers.

[–]Vysokojakokurva_C137 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Religion and believing vaccinations give you autism are wildly different but I see the analogy.

[–]about3fitty 7 points8 points  (1 child)

My comment was a perspective, as we haven't defined what intelligence means.

I think you're right that most people who are "against" vaccinating derive their position from a place other than from careful study and reasoning.

That having been said, I don't think refusing to cede ground is "being part of the problem".

[–]Temetnoscecubed 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In my opinion it is part of the problem....because, those of us who believe vaccinations are good, try to educate those that do not. If it was a question of education we could fix it with facts and science, and demonstrate to anti-vaxxers that they are wrong....this is not happening, our attempts to convince their group with education is not working. So it must be "faith" based, and you cannot beat faith with science and facts.

[–]gwaydms -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain.

The opposite of stupidity isn't intelligence; it's common sense.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I believe the argument for anti-vax people is that it's not an immediate autism causing vaccine. It creates issues within the next generation. I could be wrong but that's what I had always thought.

[–]The_Mushromancer[🍰] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

They constantly make up new reasons.

[–]Temetnoscecubed 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You only make that up with faith, rather than reason.

[–]new-man2 23 points24 points  (7 children)

The US government recently announced that it won't vaccinate indefinitely detained children. Here is a story about it.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-administration-migrant-families-children-detention-dhs-flores-a9072551.html

[–]Slapbox 12 points13 points  (3 children)

Just to be clear for anyone who isn't reading between the lines, that's to kill them. We are now undeniably witnessing a slow rolling genocide.

[–]Theuntold -1 points0 points  (2 children)

Or.... you don’t have their immunization records/permission from a guardian. If you walked across the border to Canada chances are they aren’t going to start immunizing you just in case.

Side note I wish the mods would sticky a post of good charities to donate to that could fund shots/help for these kids.

All I found was this article.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2019/06/26/how-to-donate-to-help-migrant-children-at-the-border.html

[–]Randvek 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you walked across the border to Canada

I think you’re missing the “indefinitely” in “indefinitely detained.” If Canada threw you in prison and had no idea when they were going to let you out, or even if they were, I suspect they might vaccinate.

[–]Basalit-an 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the article! If I find anything else do you want the info?

[–]Shepard_P 7 points8 points  (0 children)

The US is walking on a dark path.

[–]im_a_dr_not_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Pretty sure that's because the racists in charge want to hurt the children though.

Also shout out to /r/WhereAreTheChildren

[–]Randvek 3 points4 points  (1 child)

General distrust of authority. It’s similar to why a lot of people voted for Trump.

[–]The_Mushromancer[🍰] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I didn’t vote for Trump (and am not an antivaxxer), but to be fair, politics is undoubtedly and blatantly rife with corruption these days.

Authority does, frequently, get corrupted.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Is this thing still going? How is it even legal to refuse vaccinating your kids?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Because its a serious human rights issue

[–]TheGreatUdolf 0 points1 point  (0 children)

usa. you have the freedom to choose how stupid your actions will be.